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    Tsunade vs pain

    Tsunade faces off against pain,
    the location is konoha
    the distance is 50m
    the mindset is to capture for pain,but to kill for tsunade
    intel is full for tsunade,none for pain
    restrictions: pain wants to capture,so no CT,CST or gedo mazo.
    Tsunade has katsuya out
    who wins?
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    No contest Pain wins with ease.
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Without knowledge: Pein mid diff
    With knowledge: Tsunade or Pein high diff.
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade View Post
    Without knowledge: Pein mid diff
    With knowledge: Tsunade or Pein high diff.
    Even with Knowledge, Pein mid diff at best
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Why is Tsunade getting so overrated lately. Of course this is Pain.
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Quote Originally Posted by fourth kazekage View Post
    Tsunade faces off against pain,
    the location is konoha
    the distance is 50m
    the mindset is to capture for pain,but to kill for tsunade
    intel is full for tsunade,none for pain
    restrictions: pain wants to capture,so no CT,CST or gedo mazo.
    Tsunade has katsuya out
    who wins?
    sometimes,reading the OP does wonders for people.
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Pain Mid-Diff. IMO
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Pain is the absolute worst match up for Tsunade, followed by Itachi and Sasuke. He wins this mid difficulty. Those rods will make her paralysed and unable to fight. All six paths of Pain are faster than her. Good luck on fighting against six opponents with more speed than yourself. Katsuyu would be helpful though but I'm pretty sure animal path can deal with that.

    The intel would help Tsunade but she can't beat Pain even with it.
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    With knowledge tusande wins
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Cerberus (I think that's how the three headed dog is named ) solos no trolling tsunade has no way of killing him.
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Quote Originally Posted by MubiOxx View Post
    Panda Summon Solos.
    Body Pathway Derangement
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Pein will win easy to mid diffuclty.. anyway the girls said Tsunade will win...
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Well i pucnh from Tsunade- 1 "dead" Pein body
    And she is almost immortal. And Katsuya can protect her from the CT.
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    She slow lol you guys are funny pain slow lol trolls lol
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    OP said CT,CST and GEDO are restricted. He also said pain wantes to capture,not kill. How is tsunade slow?,she reacted faster than mei could form handseals,she is a medical nin,dodging and evading are her specialty. Pain has no intel on tsunade as the OP said,while tsunade has full intel on pain,pain dosent know what she can do,that she is immortal and strong,or her slug spits out acid.

    Asura path can't use his jutsus to kll bcos pain wants to capture,once he gets close,one hit KO.animal path's summons are easily punched aside,katsuya kills cerebrus with acid.naraka,human and preta?,tsunade smashed 2 susanoos with legs with one hit,she wont have a problem with these,esspecially with her yin seal.

    Deva is the most difficult,but his ST is tanked by regen,as he dosent want to kill her,he needs to get close,and needs to enter a cqc with her,which would allow her to finish him.

    Tsunade knows abt shared vision and it's weakness,they are in konoha,lots of buildings and structures to take advantage of,katsuya can split,and each of the clones can telepathically talk and communicate to eachother,so she can have katsuya divide,and have the little ones hide and watch the pains,while one or two stay with her to tell her details abt their movements.

    With this thread,tsunade would win high diff IMO
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Quote Originally Posted by MubiOxx View Post
    Seriously , Deva Solos.

    She can't Hit him , she's Slow.
    I will first demonstrate that Tsunade is in fact a quick opponent. I will then highlight Tsunade's strength and battle style for future reference, in this section I differentiate between Tsunade's two types of strength which is relevant for the sake of my Preta Path argument. We will look at Tsunade's durability and stamina feats which show that she is not going to be so simply taken out of the picture and that gravitational powers do not necessarily spell death for her. Then I will show that Tsunade is a highly intelligent person with the ability to think on her feet. I will then display Katsuyu's abilities for the sake of my arguments for against Deva and Animal paths. I will then conclude with a possible scenario for each individual battle and a team battle. I encourage you to read both posts.



    Tsunade's Speed and Reflexes:
    Most people think that Tsunade is slow and sluggish. In fact, people often think her affinity to slugs make her slow. They bring in databook numbers to say that she is slow. So I will actually bring her feats into play here.
    when Tsunade shoves Gamabunta's sword into Manda's mouth I'd call that a speed of feat. Thinking Logically about the feat Manda went underground and blitzed Gamabunta. Neither Gamabunta nor Jiraiya had time to react. It would make no logical sense for Tsunade to be in the air with the sword with no target as she has not the ability to hover. Therefore, she must have jumped and reacted after Manda appeared above ground and managed to attack him with such accuracy coming from off panel.

    When Tsunade threw herself in front of Orochimaru's blade that was a feat of speed . And considering Jiraiya was only able to to form a single handseal before Oro's blade struck Tsunade and no one even thought it was capable to get in the way judging by their shocked faces yet Tsunade did.

    And when Tsunade attacked Orochimaru I'd consider that a feat of speed considering Orochimaru was paying close enough attention to her he could tell her trembling had stopped yet he was completely unprepared for Tsunade's kick.

    When Madara was attacking the 5 kage with his Katon none of the kages were able to react in time not even A. Yet Tsunade not only saw the attack but was able to respond as well.

    When Tsunade blitzed Shizune, Shizune had no way of reacting in fact she was completely caught off guard.

    And Tsunade was able to use her speed to avoid Naruto's attacks without much effort.

    And Tsunade literally blitzed Kabuto in the time it took to push up his glasses.

    She was also able to blitz the advisers as well


    In addition the her and A were able to completely approach Bee and Naruto in such a quick manner neither Bee nor Naruto saw it coming and had the kages wanted to they could've blitzed the jinchuurikis.


    Furthermore in the time it takes Raikage to punch in his V1 form Tsunade has already began running implying that she is not slow.


    The fact that her speed was compared to A's is a great thing. No she is not in his speed range, but being compared to the second fastest character alive would she's not slow, the same way Raikage's strength in comparison to the strongest character alive does not make him weak.


    When Kabuto was attacking Tsunade is was a fact that Tsunade had been out of battle many years. It was a fact that she had not been resting. It was also a fact that she was holding back based on her not using Katsuyu or Creation Rebirth.

    Even still, Tsunade was able to react very well defensively.

    And Tsunade was able to blitz Jiraiya and force Kabuto into a position in which he could not avoid taking damage and thus he had to resort to exploiting her hemophobia.


    Additionally in her fight against Madara, Madara had her taking one 5 autonomous clones of himself wrapped in Susanoo. Meaning they had the sharingan precognition and the rinnegan shared vision yet Tsunade was still able to get behind a clone and incapacitated it. And because each kage received 5 clones to fight, yet we only see four in the picture two of which are definitely left standing behind Tsunade, another is ambigously farther away either collapsed on top of a stone sharing a fate similar to the clone in front of Tsunade or unable to close the distance. We can reason that she had incapacitated at least two clones.


    We again saw Tsunade's reflexes during Madara's attack when Madara was using his perfect Susanoo Tsunade had started another jutsu.


    In addition she was able to coordinate a joint attack with Mei, A, and Oonoki when A was in his raiton armor.


    Orochimaru and Kabuto were nearly blitzed together in Tsunade's initial up front attack they narrowly escaped death.


    Tsunade also managed to blitz Madara with him being not only completely caught off guard but incapable of preparing his counter attack before Tsunade's attack landed.


    Even in a fatigued state so great that she was moments away from going into a coma she managed to beat anbu to Pein.


    Additionally, Tsunade's hands moved fast enough that not only was she able to disarm and neutralize Naruto but pickpocket him and hide away his wallet all without being seen in the action, while intoxicated.


    And when Pein was about to attack with Asura's path Tsunade's arm had already risen, which means logically she could have simply struck the blizting Asura path. So she was a victim of plot no jutsu and fatigue


    Even when distracted and drunk, Tsunade was able to respond to what she thought was a fully powered rasengan using only one finger.





    Tsunade's Strength and battle prowess
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    Tsunade has proven that she is physically the strongest character in Naruto. She accomplishes this in two ways. She uses medical ninjutsu to create chakra explosions.
    and due to the explanation given of the medical ninjutsu strength we can reason that lifting, maneuvering and pulling attacks we were shown were accomplished through natural strength.

    I though will provide more examples of her strength though.
    The wall in Tanzuku town crumbled when Tsunade struck it.

    With one finger Tsunade split the ground leaving a crevice so large that Naruto was able to fall inside of it.
    This attack illustrates that Tsunade is willing to use shockwaves, a by product of her strength, to gain an advantage in battle. Incidently, Tsunade's shockwaves are strong enough to break through solid stone walls, in the close up you can see the damage actually extended slightly pass the walls, and in the farther shot you can see both walls to heavy damage meaning if someone was caught by her shockwaves instead of her direct strength they would still take great damage and possibly even suffer death.

    Another byproduct of Tsunade's strength is a change in environment. This change, makes opponent's whose moves are swifter than Tsunade a risk to use because of uneven footing. Tsunade though has shown that she is adept at maneuvering even in such circumstances.

    Tsunade has also proven that she is willing to use her environment to aid her in battle and is willing to use the resources available to her to claim victory. By extension she could use the aftermath of her strength i.e. rocks and boulders as projetiles, and as MLB players can pitch with speeds over 100 miles per hour I imagine that the speed of Tsunade's projectiles would be much higher given her strength..

    Furthermore, Tsunade does not only attack with brute strength but also in ways specific to medical ninjas. Such as targeting pressure points and forcing involuntary reactions.
    She uses medical ninjutsu to scatter brain signals and she uses medical ninjutsu directly as an agent of death.

    Tsunade should have a method of fighting similar to Kabuto as she made a comparison between his fighting style and hers. As Tsunade's style of fighting is so radically different she couldn't make a valid comparison unless she use a method of attack similar to Kabuto. She's proven that PTS Kabuto's strength is no where near her past prime strength (not just physically but all around as a ninja) thus it only stands to reason she was referring to using medical ninjutsu offensively. Even the way the statement was phrased in that it was prefaced to him being a medical ninja before finishing the statement suggests that the following was related to him being a medical ninja.

    As one can pierce organs without piercing the skin it is reasonable with medical ninjutsu she can pierce the skin without touching the person


    Tsunade taught Sakura how to pick up on an opponents method of fighting and alter your own to better defend, and by extension attack



    Tsunade's Intelligence:
    Needless to say Tsunade is intelligent. For instance, before the battle with Orochimaru she poisoned Jiraiya to make sure he did not interfere with any of her decisions.

    She opted to end Orochimaru subtly with a sneak attack than a large time consuming showdown

    Tsunade is able to understand how motivation affects people and their performance on the battlefield.

    While Tsunade is an emotional person, she is able to rationalize and objectively analyze situations.

    Tsunade can reason on the motives of her enemies and spot traps ahead of time.

    Tsunade here indicates that she didn't just stick Yamato with team Kakashi for kicks and giggles nor just because of him being powerful, but also because he mokuton includes Chakra suppression.

    Tsunade also shows that she knew that if the Hidden Leaf really crumbled then Naruto would be in grave danger, thus he had to fight to defend it if he had any chance in being safe.

    In stressful situations Tsunade has managed to provide quick leadership the has a solid plan of defense. And she knew a means to hand out information instanteously is paramount. And therefore, she knows the value of information and thus would strive to obtain it through whatever means necessary.


    Tsunade has also shown her ability to think up counters to enemies unusual abilities once she has information on them.


    As opposed to most people Tsunade was able to perceive that Pein was about to launch a large scale attack.


    Tsunade also realizes when desperate measures demand an all out attack. Even out thinking Shikaku in this regard.


    Tsunade was able to out think Raikage and perceive what Naruto experienced before he told them.


    Tsunade's rules for medical nin highlights her knowledge of battle strategy.


    And we see while the medical ninja is supposed to be the last on the team to die in battle in the case against Tsunade. She intends to allow the kage to make a comeback by healing them allowing them to protect the shinobi world


    Tsunade also managed to set a trap for Madara, that Madara did not expect



    Tsunade's Durability and Stamina:
    She arrived and used creation rebirth. When she used creation Rebirth against Orochimaru it ate up the whole seal.
    She then healed Oonoki and Gaara and replenished chakras.
    She then healed Mei and replenished her chakra.
    She then used Byakugou and attacked Madara.
    She then regenerated from the Susanoo sword
    She then regenerated from three yasaka magatamas
    She then regenerated from at least two more Susanoo swords while immobilizing two of them.
    She then donated more chakra to Oonoki so he could use his biggest Jinton yet
    She then tanked the damage of a katon that was meant to kill 5 people.
    Tsunade was apparently also bisected by mokuton. Even in the bisected state however, she is apparently capable of returning to one piece. And is still able to use jutsus.


    Sword of Kusanagi

    Cut abdomen and Bicep Muscles
    Cut Respiratory Muscles
    Shinra Tensei Fully Powered
    • Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.

    • Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
      (it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)



    • This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
      This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)

    • This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal
    • What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
    • Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.
    • Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
    • And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
      before ... being blitzed.
    • So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
      she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.


    Katsuyu's abilities:
    Among Katsyuyu's abilities is the ability to divide into many versions of herself. Her full bodied self is capable of spitting acid so it is logical to assume that her minis could as well..
    Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuyu a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuyu can crush people. Given the crushing power of this mini katsuyu it only stands to reason the a full sized katsuyu would be much more deadly.
    We also know that Katsuyu can completely envelop people quickly even without their permission
    And Tsunade can seeming sense what Katsuyu sees
    Katsuyu can transfer information over multiple battlefields at once
    Logically a mini katsuyu like this one could stay with Tsunade and insert chakra into her to wake her from genjutsu
    Katsuyu cannot be harmed cutting or stabbing and as we've seen her withstand Shinra Tensei FP and Chibaku Tensei it is safe to assume she can withstand being crushed.

     
         
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    Re: Tsunade vs pain


    How this translates into battle
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    • Preta Path: As we know Preta path's main ability is chakra absorption. However, because Tsunade doesn't use long range chakra based attacks Preta path's use is limited. While it is true that Tsunade does augment her strength with chakra, as covered in the strength and battle prowess section, Tsunade has incredible natural strength. Which means she could still beat Preta path to death. Because of his chakra absorption Tsunade will not be able to use offensive medical ninjutsu on him or attack with Body Pathway derangement but she will able to still use shockwaves and pressure points as valid means of attack. Preta path will be forced into a taijutsu battle with Tsunade. Unfortunately, because Tsunade has so many facets to her CQC he will not win the battle. And should he try to grab Tsunade and steal her chakra like he did to Naruto, she would use her great Natural strength to destroy Preta path similar to how she broke Orochimaru's tongue hold.
    • Asura Path: Asura Path is a bit more difficult to defeat than Preta path. The largest problem presented by Asura is his chakra cannon. However, in a team battle he would not do this as he would greatly damage his own teammates. Furthermore, Tsunade could get out of dodge of the attack with the speed she's demonstrated in the speed and reflexes section. We've all seen the image of Asura path "blitzing" a fatigued Tsunade. However, as demonstrated in the speed and reflexes section Tsunade was able to get her arm up in that state meaning that if Asura path had continued she very well could have struck and destroyed him. As no slouch in speed she proves herself a dangerous opponent. In terms of the Flaming Arrow of Amazing Ability, the attack is slow. Slow in the fact that Choji was able to outrun the attack for a considerable amount of time.
      How does this translate for Tsunade. Tsunade is much faster than Choji. And because she maneuvers in the manner she does as demonstrated in the speed and reflexes category it is extremely possible that last minute maneuver could cause the missile to hit a rock as opposed to her person. Asura too, often times relies on taijutsu which would be to would be his downfall. While he does have long range attacks, it places his team in danger and his options are limited by the number of explosives he can in fact use. In addition if Tsunade ops to summon Katsuyu then it's large possiblity that Katsuyu hirself can tank the explosions and provide covering for Tsunade similar to how she covered Ibiki, Ino, and Shizune in the Katsuyu setion
    • Human Path: Human Path's main ability demands that he grab and hold Tsunade, but given her strength it seems unlikely that he would be able to grapple with Tsunade which comes down to a defeat in taijutsu
    • Deva Path: The powerhouse of the group. This path has three main powers. Bansho Tenin turns Deva Path into the center of gravity pulling all objects directly toward him. This ability is not directly to his advantage against Tsunade. Firstly Tsunade has three ways to counter this technique, but I'll save the second for the sake of Shinra Tensei and the third for the sake of Chibaku Tensei. If Deva Path pulls Tsunade closer to him with the use of Bansho Tenin the innate problem is that he is also increasing Tsunade's mass and acceleration. What is the problem in doing that? Force is equal to mass times acceleration. Essentially, he is making Tsunade's strikes stronger in that instant. All Tsunade would need to do is to pull her arm back and prepare to punch and punch when she is within range. At that point, Deva Path will be unable to repel her having just used Bansho Tenin. We know that Tsunade can pull back her arm because Kakashi a physically weaker character was able to throw a chain whip behind himself.
      Additionally, as Deva is increasing the mass of any object flying towards him instead of throwing a projectile behind her like Kakashi did she can throw a projectile at Deva resulting in great damage. For counter Shinra Tensei, Tsunade has shown that she can direct chakra to her feet to avoid the gravitational repulsion and attraction abilities of Deva Path as displayed in the intelligence section. Why is this method valid, it is a weaker demonstration of this principle that allows ninja to walk on trees.
      The more force Deva path uses to push Tsunade the longer it will take to regain his powers. We've also seen that brute force can in fact overcome Shinra Tensei's opposing force, but I will concede that is a much weaker argument to hold albeit a possibility but an unlikely possibility.
      In addition to the problem of Katsuyu. Katsuyu innately has more traction than the three toad summons because of her slime which allows her to stick to surfaces. Meaning, that to push Katsuyu away it will take considerably more force than it did for the toads leaving Deva Path a sitting duck. If he ops to only push Tsunade away he could still fall prey to Katsuyu's attack as he would have no way to counter the acid quickly enough. Nor would he have a way to avoid crushing. The crushing powers of her mini was demonstrated in the Katsuyu section, we can therefore gather the crushing power of Katsuyu as a whole is in fact much greater. Additionally Katsuyu is not as slow as people think.
      Katsuyu was able to fill Konoha with her minis in a matter of seconds and enter rooms with shinobi without their knowledge that she was there and then absorb them without them knowing she was their or giving her permission.

      For the sake of Chibaku Tensei it should be noted that Tsunade does not have to destroy the gravitational nucleus itself. Chibaku Tensei is extremely taxing of Nagato's chakra reserves. So much so that he has direct all of his chakra into Deva in order to create CT.

      As seen here keeping Chibaku Tensei active requires a constant expenditure of chakra.
      For the sake of strategy Tsunade is not trying break out but rather withstand CT Nagato will not try to make another CT, rather he would focus on maintaining the current one. But Tsunade would not be recieving harm. As Katsuyu would be protecting her inside of Chibaku Tensei. Katsuyu was on Naruto inside of Chibaku Tensei which means she can with stand the gravitational pressure. Also Chibaku Tensei is very similar to Bansho tenin but instead of Nagato being the center of gravity, the black orb is. If then, the black orb is destroyed so is the CT as a whole. As I mentioned with Bansho Tenin the attraction increases force. I've also demonstrated Katsuyu's crushing power. If Katsuyu is the first thing to fly at the orb the resulting for should be great enough to crush the orb. If Tsunade lands directly behind Katsuyu or directly in front of her Tsunade's force was also multiplied exponentially, and if the attempt to destroy the orb failed (which is doubtful) Tsunade would still be able to hide out inside of Katsuyu and wait for Nagato to expend too much chakra to the point that he can no longer maintain CT. Furthermore, Furthermore, If Tsunade strategically jumps from rock to rock she can ensure that she ends up on the outside of Chibaku Tensei. In which case we've been shown that after so much debris is compacted the outside of Chibaku Tensei 's gravitational pull is low enough to stand on.
      Finally, in a team battle setting he would destroy his teammates including the Naraka path.
    • Animal Path: Most of Animal Path's summons would be defeated with taijutsu as they all need to come in close to attack her.
      The dog however, will continue to split. Tsunade being so analytical as mentioned in the intellegence section will realize this and thus decide to attack the dog with Body Pathway Deference to immobilize the animal and then attack animal path realizing the summons will go away when Animal Path dies. Just like the anbu were able to reason.
      Animal Path will eventually run out of summons and hasn't shown the skill in taijutsu to defeat Tsunade.
    • Naraka Path: Like Human Path, Naraka Path's ability is dependent on physical contact namely the grabbing of the throat. This seems unlikely given the fact that Tsunade has shown greater strength feats. Konohamaru was able to fight toe to toe with him for a moment, and that method of fighting is inefficient for fighting when Tsunade has back up namely Katsuyu.
    • As a team They stand in a basic team formation in which Naraka is the furthest back and Deva is in the center.
      Tsunade's intimate knowledge of battle strategy will cause her to realize that taking out the ninja in the back who is serving in the role of "medic" is the most pressing task at hand. To aid accomplish this she will probably first charge in. As a result Animal path will most likely summon the rhino. Tsunade will respond in a way similar to Sage Mode Naruto.
      History suggest the other paths will not interfere during this so as not to get in animal paths way. Next animal path would summon the ox and the dog. If the Tsunade goes after the Ox she'd kill it. Katsuyu on the otherhand would be dealing with the Dog who can do her no actual harm. If how ever the situation is reversed Tsunade will strike the dog and Katsuyu will probably eventually kill the Ox via acid. When Tsunade sees the dog split she will start the strategy mentioned in the section on animal path. Animal path now has 5 summons left. The centipede, the bird, the chameleon, the panda and the lobster.
      If history of Pain's fighting style tells us anything when Tsunade rushes in for Animal Path, Preta Path will try to engage her in taijutsu. Tsunade being the superior taijutsu user, with an emphasis on evasion she will win the skirmish. Realizing that she has defeated a path, getting to Naraka will be urgent to her. In the context of the group formation Asura path's abilities are limited and thus he will have to resort to taijutsu as well. If he tries to blitz Tsunade like he tried to before, she is not fatigued in the fight and there is no plot. She will strike him, and he will be down. Human too is confined to taijutsu and will be taken down. By this time I imagine that Animal Path has summoned the next swarm of animal summons. Tsunade will take down the centipede in a way similar to Sakura. She will then wait for the bird to attack and strike it as it makes it's descent. I assume by this point the Dog will be starting to recover and will charge at Tsunade. She will then grab the lobster and hurl it at the dog and attack Animal Path. Animal Path will block with the Panda and the Panda will be destoryed. I assume by this point, Naraka path has brought back the Preta path. Tsunade at this point, will see even moreso the importance of defeating Naraka. She will try to charge past Deva at which point he Shinra Tensei's her away. She takes note of this ability and next charges with chakra in her feet to avoid being pushed back. After Deva Shinra Tensei's again regardless of whether or not she is pushed back Katsuyu spits acid as the second wave of attack as Tsunade was only the distraction similar to her attack against Madara mentioned in the intelligence section. Because of the wide area covered by the acid, Preta will not be able to protect both Deva and Naraka and thus will protect Naraka leaving Deva badly burned if not dead. At this point, Naraka's main priority is bringing back Deva path. As Naraka procedes to do this Katsuyu attacks animal path. Animal Path only has a chamleon and dog left in his repertoire. The chameleon however, is not an offensive animal but rather a defensive one and thus will not be any harm to Tsunade. Katsuyu will know where Animal Path is before he summons the chameleon. And will be able to attack. When sie kills Animal Path as Animal has no way of harming hir. Katsuyu can then focus hir full attention on the skirmish with Deva, Preta, and Naraka. Naraka being the most important path, Preta will be protecting it. Preta again loses in taijutsu. I am giving Pain the benefit of the doubt and saying that Deva Path is back by now. Knowing that it is Deva's utmost duty protect Naraka Tsunade destracts Deva path engaging in battle while Katsuyu captures Naraka path, in a way similar to how Katsuyu covered Ino. Deva path now realizes that he's played into a trap and Shinra Tensei's Tsunade away. We're assuming that because he's seen Tsunade's strength feats. He is not so foolish as to use Bansho Tenin. Using Chibaku Tensei is not a valid option as of yet, due to Naraka path still being present, and Deva not wanting to destroy Naraka. So instead Deva goes to fight Katsuyu and free Naraka path. Tsunade is probably recovered from her wounds via Byakugou no jutsu and has re-entered the fray. Unfortunately for Deva he has no way of knowing which Katsuyu mini Naraka is in at this point. Similar to how a path was in Bunta's mouth.
      Katsuyu though may tell Tsunade. Tsunade would be able to kill Naraka while Deva is still searching for him. That leaves Deva versus Tsunade. Deva path has demonstrated that in order to use Chibaku Tensei the orb must be far away from him so that he is not destroyed in the process.
      Tsunade having just killed Naraka is able to see Deva Path preparing his next jutsu. Upon feeling the powers of attraction she has all the options listed above in the Deva Path section. If Deva does not go directly for Chibaku Tensei and instead aim for a full powered Shinra Tensei as the Chibaku Tensei is supposedly a last resort. Tsunade has already proven her ability to tank this attack without healing herself as per the durability section. If Deva then becomes a sitting duck from using too much power. Deva Path cannot handle the combined forces of Tsunade and Katsuyu as they can exploit his need for an interval between use gravitational powers. He would try to fight Tsunade with taijutsu like he did against Naruto
      but one cannot block Tsunade's strength without breaking limbs which means he must dodge every attack. And eventually, he will lose.


      Of course the situation described favored Tsunade, but much of what I posted is based on history and knowledge of the 6 paths fighting style and their habit of rushing in and being caught off guard by traps.


      My point being that Tsunade could win. I'm not implying she'd win even most of the time but she has the possibility of winning sometimes due to Pein's inefficient fighting style.
     
         

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    Tazilla destroys any and all threads Tsunade is underrated in . I'm sure he has certain match ups pre-planned
     
         

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    Tazzilla just wiped out the thread.

    I would have still placed my bets on Tsunade with High Difficulty.
     
         

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    Pain wins high diff.
     
         

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    Re: Tsunade vs pain

    Well, Tsunade has a HUGE advantage here, she has full intel while Pain has none, Chibaku is restricted, he's trying to capture her and she's trying to kill him, and since you said Pain instead of Nagato I'm assuming we're talking about the 6pop, not Nagato himself, right ?
    Anyhow, under these circumstances, it could go either way. Tsunade is not a ninja you should underrate. However, I believe Pain takes this because of these reasons:
    1. Animal Path: This path should be enough to hold off Katsyuu. She may be durable and may be able to split, but she won't be able to hold her own against the multiheaded splitting dog, the bird, the rhino, and the rest of his summons. She has amazing tanking abilities, but she won't be able to defend against all of his summons at once.
    2. Human Path: Tsunade's fighting style almost solely revolves around using her monstrous strength in a hand-to-hand combat. However, the Human path will remove the soul of anyone who get's in touch with it, and even if Tsunade has her healing techniques, losing a soul is not something you can cure.
    These two are the main reasons I think Pain takes this. There are other things, like the fact that Pains metal rods interrupt the opponents chakra flow which would be a big problem for Tsunade considering that her monstrous strength requires very precise chakra control.
    Anyway, I think the 6pop take this.
    P.S. If we're talking about Nagato himself, he takes this no problem.
    P.S.S. I don't quite get why Chibaku isn't allowed. Pain used it against Naruto when his goal was to capture him, why not Tsunade ?
     
         

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