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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    It's kinda sad to see a cool guy like obito in this state btw he's very similar to naruto. we'll just watch how did he end up like madara.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    in reply to ictrusbucks...

    I don't think we ever saw Nagato with "normal" eyes. I think he had the Rinnegan from when we first see him in the flashback story. At first, Kishi just drew him with hair covering his eyes.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    I have a question....if Madara has given out his original Rinnegan Eyes(To Nagato most probably), how come he is still able to control the Gedo Mazo Statue behind him to give him an endless supply of Chakra??
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Hashi is a boss, Madara a sorry a*s looser who is now feeling like a boss over present generation.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Interesting chapter, got to think Rin's death was the catalyst in Obito's demise. We've seen how Naruto coped with seeing a comrade die (well he thought Hinata had died during the Pain fight), he went all kyubi and was fortunate he had the fourth to guide him back. Obito just had Madara (or whomever it is) and his ideals to save him from his pain...just a thought.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Obito really loved Rin and i suppose that was what convinced him to join up with Madara, hoping to pull a fast one on the old man later on, but Rin's death changed everything...imo, everybody has his own idea/definition of what peace, love and a better world is and also the process of achieving these goals..the road to hell is paved with good intentions then?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Now I know why tobi told sasuke that there are some things even itachi doesn't know about him, my guess is that while he was being burnt by amaterasu he slipped through to that madara's cave and changed his body or should I say refill...?lol anyway he is also almost edo or immortal.
     
         

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    I think this chapter was lame....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    wait i'm confused, madara said those are not his eyes but how does that mean he gave nagato the rinngan?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by dukefleed View Post
    in reply to ictrusbucks...

    I don't think we ever saw Nagato with "normal" eyes. I think he had the Rinnegan from when we first see him in the flashback story. At first, Kishi just drew him with hair covering his eyes.
    Thanks for the reply. Anybody know the manga series number for the flashback?

    I rewatched the anime episode recently and I am 99% sure that he was shown with regular eyes just before awakening the rinnengan... but of course the Anime is not canon.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    First impression: worst chapter evar! It seems so fake. And what's with the left side of Obito's face (his left)? Why is it so messed up when the left side of Tobi's face is just fine?


    I'll sleep on it and give it another whirl tomorrow before making my final judgments. Hopefully I'll awake to find it's only a dream.
    Remember they were fighting, then he got crushed.... then rocks fell on top of his entire body.... then he phased through the floor
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bento Uchiha View Post
    wait i'm confused, madara said those are not his eyes but how does that mean he gave nagato the rinngan?
    We dont know yet.... highly unlikely he gave them to nagato given the information currently given
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Amelius View Post
    We dont know yet.... highly unlikely he gave them to nagato given the information currently given
    so did madara somehow awaken rinnigan from his set of eyes?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by DeadManWonderLand View Post
    So madara has on eye and he already gave his eyes to someone that someone is obviously Nagato.
    But did'nt Nagato have his eyes since a child when he killed the Shinobi that killed is parents?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ3Gotenks View Post
    At least now we can put all of those theories about there being 2 Tobies to rest look at Madara there is no way he could have been the other Tobi

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    nope it could still be another tobi. we dont know when exactly madara ended up in the state he did. madara mustve obviously gave his rinnegan to an infant Nagato (either that or Nagato was lying about what happened to him but thats highly unlikely) so Nagato has no memories of the Rinnegan. Dont forget that Kisame met with Madara too when the masked man was manipulating the Mizukage.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by HokagePein View Post
    By his eyes Borrowed he means that they are his brothers eyes comon guys you do recall he was going blind you know.. and in my opinion he lost one of his eyes because he used izanagi to escape his near death experience from the 1st hokage.
    If you read the chaper again you will see that madara said he had just a measly sharingan he gave his eyes away.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    his chapter skk i feal sorry for naruto manga is diying
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Instead of enjoying the thrill of Naruto as Kishi tells the story I see people looking for loop holes and error damn critics who can't even draw a circle or conceive a reasonable idea pls give kishi some kudos.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    I give it 5/5. I really liked this episode. First off, it shows that Obito survived by slipping through the rocks. Probably the MS activated and he could use his S/T jutsu unknowingly. Second, for some reason, I fell that after more revelations, we are going to be in Madara's side. Madara said to Obito that because he was wounded, others where saved. He clearly was talking from personal experience there. I firmly believe that Madara took on Hashirama in order to save someone or other people. Then, we see how Madara has been living all these years, tied to a an artificial machine you might say, like an artificial respirator or heart, alone in a dark place. Basically he got the short end of the stick, just like Obito. Obito is shown here as a loyal member of Konoha, notice his desire to go back to his comrades and help on the war. What Madara will reveal next must be something really powerful in order for Obito to change his mind. I don't think he was brainwashed as some suggest, he saw everything with his own eye. Who Madara entrusted his eyes too? I bet on either Hanzo Shimura or Orochimaru. There is more to Hanzo then meets the eye. Tobi said when he met Hanzo before he fought Sasuke that he hasnt seen him since the Uchiha incident. This leads me to believe that Hanzo was in contact with Madara. I'm pretty sure Madara took the fall for someone else, to further a cause or who knows, even to save a lot of people or loved one. Hashirama vs Madara hasn't been explained well so I believe thats what coming in the next chapter. Tobi's identity revelation will mean nothing compared to the twist I sense coming up. Also, since apparently Madara was Obito's master, Im pretty sure that when he died, it must have been very hard on Obito to see his master gone (Think Naruto when Jiraiya died). Obito became disenchanted with life also,when he learned of Rin's death and that drove him to realize that what Madara was telling him was the truth, that sometimes things don't go our way, someone must always lose in order for someone else to win. Im really looking forward to next chapter, I hoping for more flashbacks.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by ictusbrucks View Post
    Somebody please help explain this to me...

    I know we have heard countless times that Madara gave Nagato the rinnengan, but this confuses me. Why? Because we saw when nagato awakened his rinnegan to save his friends. We know that he wasn't taken behind a bush and given eye surgery in the middle of that sequence...

    So what exactly does this mean? That Madara gave nagato the rinnengan at some point before we saw him awaken it, and that the eyes looked just like normal eyes when they were first put into Nagato? That just doesn't make sense to me. For one, when Kakashi got Obito's eye, it didn't revert to a normal eye, it stayed a sharingan.

    So somebody please explain how Nagato got eyes surgically implanted but still had to awaken them himself??

    Until manga 602, my personal theory was that madara helped Nagato "awaken" the rinnengan, not by GIVING him the eyes, but by orchestrating the situation that let Nagato awken them himself. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I remember a soldier after food or something. Maybe Madara sent that soldier after them knowing it would be the trigger?

    Just makes no sense to me now.

    Unless I consider something totally crazy: The "Madara" we are seeing in these recent strips is NOT really Madara, but actually Izuna, the one who gave his eyes to Madara? Could he be using the same trick as "tobi" did, pretending for some personal gain?


    Not trying to invent crazy theories, but the idea that Madara physically gave Nagato a set of eyes makes ZERO sense to me when you consider the other factors. Somebody please tell me that I am missing something really obvious here...
    None of this makes any sense. First off we dont see Nagato's eyes until after the Rinnegan is awakened. Madara couldve orchestrated this thing from the very beginning. It started when Madara implanted the eyes to an infant Nagato. He found ways to have Nagato feel pain and then tell him the truth later.

    What you said about the old man not being Madara but actually Izuna cant happen also. How else would Madara know who Obito is and how else would he give Obito the idea of the Eye of the Moon plan it was his original plan. Madara also had Hashirama's cells he got after the battle at the valley of the end and even a clone of him. Im pretty sure thats what is keeping him alive.
     
         

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