[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

[jtolliver87]

Dude Obito thought Madara was a pedophile hell i thought he was a pedophile the end

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

This chapter confirms how brutal of an ass-beating hashi gave madara

Well this finally answered some questions but the answers were pretty obvious...

The explanation of "You survived by miracle" or something like that I still think it's not sufficient... Hope Kishi will properly explain HOW he survived being crushed by those rocks...
And if Madara couldn't move from that cave, how exactly did he give his eyes to Nagato?

I was just thinking the same thing. Did he have someone else do it to him? Or was he mobile for a while when he was younger, but was now forced to be connected to the mazou in his ridiculously old age?

[Animaeon]

Things that this chapter somewhat comfirmed

1. Madara didn't Rinne Tensei Obito as so many people believed, he found the little guy. So Madara is naturally old and weak, and Obito probably saved himself or someone else did.
2. Madara indeed gave up his eyes, perhaps to Nagato. Had a spare sharingan lying somewhere (from who?).
3. Obito doesn't have a 3 tomoe sharingan, the last pic show he has a 2 tomoe..
4. Obito wanted to go back to the leaf, but couldn't.
5. We finally know for sure what Obito is partially made of.
6. Madara seemed like he was sick of this world after all... We might find out later if he's gonna stick to this plan or that it was a lie from the beginning.
7. Madara didn't convince him just like that (like most people predicted). Obito was even disrespecting the dude.
8. We get explained where Madara was all that time.

It might not be the best chapter we've read from Naruto, but to say this chapter had nothing important is just ignorant.

[mabanae]

it's getting interesting .

[I Am The Fourth Hokage]

Things that this chapter somewhat comfirmed

1. Madara didn't Rinne Tensei Obito as so many people believed, he found the little guy. So Madara is naturally old and weak, and Obito probably saved himself or someone else did.
2. Madara indeed gave up his eyes, perhaps to Nagato. Had a spare sharingan lying somewhere (from who?).
3. Obito doesn't have a 3 tomoe sharingan, the last pic show he has a 2 tomoe..
4. Obito wanted to go back to the leaf, but couldn't.
5. We finally know for sure what Obito is partially made of.
6. Madara seemed like he was sick of this world after all... We might find out later if he's gonna stick to this plan or that it was a lie from the beginning.
7. Madara didn't convince him just like that (like most people predicted). Obito was even disrespecting the dude.
8. We get explained where Madara was all that time.

It might not be the best chapter we've read from Naruto, but to say this chapter had nothing important is just ignorant.

I agree. ***** bro. Maybe not the greatest but it leads to better things coming!

[mabanae]

It was great omg it really was - 5 stars -

Thoughts:
- A nice early chapter I am almost shocked that I read it already
- It explains so much ,
*Confirms Madara gave Nagato the rinnegan
*How Madara seemed to have survived and how Obito did
*Obito didn't just follow Madara at first which makes sense

-It was actually pretty funny at the beginning :lmao:
- Obito reminds me so much of Naruto

It is also cool how Madara was using gedo mazou chakra O.O and how Obito reacted at first to being picked up by an old man

A question's though :
- Was Madara following Obito somehow ?
-How did he even know where he was ?
-How did Madara 'save' him if he couldn't leave that place ? O.o
-And Obito was so good and desperate to escape, yet he must of listened to Madara in the end .. I wonder what Madara did that completely changed him like that ? O.o


It was a really cool chapter , I enjoyed it, super informative and just awesome

please go read this chapter again

[Uchihagodzzz]

Ugh.

[mabanae]

What im starting to think is... What if Obito is under genjutsu? He hasnt been in contact with anyone, so no one can release him from genjutsu. Seeing this chapter makes me realize that obito still was a good guy, still wanting to team with Kakashi (the 2-eyes max power madara says).... So what if he is not... "bad" but just under genjutsu? Madara would have done it in a way obito have the "you left rin die" thing...

Also, Madara killing Nagato's parents, putting him under genjutsu, and after that transplanting his eyes making nagato think it was himself who awakened those eyes.

Plausible?

ye i think too that genjutsu is a possibility here .

Well this finally answered some questions but the answers were pretty obvious...

The explanation of "You survived by miracle" or something like that I still think it's not sufficient... Hope Kishi will properly explain HOW he survived being crushed by those rocks...
And if Madara couldn't move from that cave, how exactly did he give his eyes to Nagato?

manga didnt say , how long has passed since he gave his eyes to nagato, and how long is that madara cant leave the cave, he could before he gave his eyes or he couldn't !
lets just w8 .

[SilverSlick]

[mabanae]

loool
nice edit

[ucHiHa xyN]

Still, how does Madara manage to change Obito? ..by killing Rin?

[-Jiraiya-]

Madara loaned his sharingan to someone else..?
And Madara is connected to Hashi's cells via cables..? FTW...? Good chapter
Also did Obito used s/t jutsu using ms to escape the final crush of boulders...?!

[whtniels]

madara loaned his sharingan to someone else..?
And madara is connected to hashi's cells via cables..? Ftw...? Good chapter
also did obito used s/t jutsu using ms to escape the final crush of boulders...?!

hes connected to gedo mazo....

[-Jiraiya-]

hes connected to gedo mazo....

No he is connected to mazo (statue) made of hashi cells and using Hasi cells to repair himself.. Hashirama will feel soooooooooo violated...!

[RogueUchiha]

omg. is tat really madara or actually izuna considering he left his eyes to someone else. anybody passes themselves as madara nowadays :P. more questions and less results

[gensing]

uh well doesnt that look familiar

[iamdsixth]

I thought the last 2 pages were intense.As madara stated "you need both eyes to unlock the sharingan's full potential",Obito's mentality was that,"together with Kakashi he will be stronger". (for Kakashi now has his other eye)It's a little hard to believe his change of idealogy after showing that kind of mentality.

Those pages looks like a set up for a TALK NO JUTSU.

[SEEDLESS]

- Was Madara following Obito somehow ?

NO

-How did he even know where he was ?

Madara said, obito was incidentally at the opening of his hide out.

-How did Madara 'save' him if he couldn't leave that place ? O.o

Wood Release

-And Obito was so good and desperate to escape, yet he must of listened to Madara in the end .. I wonder what Madara did that completely changed him like that ? O.o


*Therefore it states that OBITO awakened sharingan together with the ability of s/t jutsu

[Rayz3n]

From earlier chapters we know that obito turned evil after he found out that Rin died and Kakashi didn't kept his promise of protecting Rin but what I can't figure out is how did Madara saved Obito if he can't leave that damn cave???
Still from the looks of it , seems that madara and obito were good men... Madara fighting for his clansmen rights because the uchiha was one of the strongest clans and he couldn't stand idly and see them thrown away like garbage, and Obito just wanted to protect his friends and his village but in the end Life just disappointed them and they lost everything
After you think about it a little in the naruto series the battle isn't between good and evil its between reality and fairy tails

[airquis91]

Possible THEORY:
1. Reason why Obito was depicted as an adult fighting the 4th eventhough the timescale doesnt add up?
-Due to madara attaching the 1st hokages cells to obito, it caused rapid aging because obito could not control his cells yet. due to rigourious training he figured out how to supprese the 1st cells. (i.e. danzo)
2.Why was Obito Evil?
-before death did its part on madara, he casted izanami on obito putting him in a infinite gen justu until madaras plan has been fulfilled could that be why he lost an eye when obito first encountered him?

[noted]

Great chapter. Better than expected.

[iamdsixth]

From earlier chapters we know that obito turned evil after he found out that Rin died and Kakashi didn't kept his promise of protecting Rin but what I can't figure out is how did Madara saved Obito if he can't leave that damn cave???

Ever thought him controlling those roots to save obito?kage bunshin?summon? Or how far can those jumper cables on his back extend?
He never actually said that he can't leave the cave. He used the word "PLACE".
That cave was part of that "PLACE". make sense?

[RogueUchiha]

Page 15, the right Zetsu body looked like something you could "wear". Obito is probably wearing that "Zetsu suit".

yea, it looks amazingly similar to tobi with his mask. and there was a second tobi who fought minato and madara himself was in no condition to fight first hand. so, they may be similar to pain's six paths technique. we'll find out soon enough

[ucHiHa xyN]

Well this finally answered some questions but the answers were pretty obvious...

The explanation of "You survived by miracle" or something like that I still think it's not sufficient... Hope Kishi will properly explain HOW he survived being crushed by those rocks...
And if Madara couldn't move from that cave, how exactly did he give his eyes to Nagato?

Only Madara thinks it is a miracle. "..it's almost as if you were able to slip through it" meaning he slipped through it.. somehow he managed, maybe unconciously.
Maybe Nagato went there. Who knows.. Kishi will explain.

[Ahmy]

A question's though :
- Was Madara following Obito somehow ?
-How did he even know where he was ?
-How did Madara 'save' him if he couldn't leave that place ? O.o
-And Obito was so good and desperate to escape, yet he must of listened to Madara in the end .. I wonder what Madara did that completely changed him like that ? O.o


It was a really cool chapter , I enjoyed it, super informative and just awesome

Same as you i give this chapter 5/5 , IDK whats wrong with people complaining when the chapter is a basic flashback.
If we didn't see this flashback this chapter and kishi moved to sasuke for now , he will have to add this chapter later on , and i think the timing was right for this chapter.

About your question What i understood is that Madara found Obito by coincidence , He said that he was living in the underground , under the cave obito supposed to be dead in.
So he was able to save him because of this coincidence.