Minato vs Raikage(Some misconceptions)

[T Bogard]

I wanted to create this thread cuz i think people are greatly mistaking what really happened in the "fight" between Minato and Raikage. No i'm not saying Minato has a greater shunshin than Raikages in V2, it's wrong. Raikage in V2 is faster, i'm only talking about reflexes here, or simply body speed, where i believe Minato is faster. So yes, Raikage has greater speed than Minato in short distance(if we don't count FTG), but Minato has a greater body speed, and i'll try to explain why:



Look carefully at this pic, and notice the distance i draw(sorry for my bad drawing ) between Minatos hand(where he holds his kunai) and Raikages shoulder at the top of my pic. Now look where the kunai is at the bottom of my pic. What does it mean? It means that during the time, Raikage was aiming at his face, Minato had time to land a kunai on top of Raikage without he even knew, and notice that Kishimoto even draw this kunai at the end on purpose so that we should not miss it.

And notice also the distance between them when Minato uses Hiraishin to go on the tree and Raikage is still in motion roughly at the same place, and on this pic:

He come back and almost finish with Raikage while he was still in motion after the first move he made. Minato had time to do 3moves before A could do even one, while he was still in motion. People only see the fact that Raikage almost touched Minato with his punch without analysing the context. In the contrary, the fact Minato was able to dodge something almost touching his nose, something going at that high speed shows that Minatos reflexes are just insane, are just on another level, and when you know that even before that, he had time to land a kunai without Raikage notices, it's even more ridiculous.

Now people are actually saying he had no choice than using FTG, but seriously. If he had time to land a kunai above the Raikage, isn't that obvious that if he wanted, he could have dodge it? Now the question you must ask you is why did he landed the kunai on Raikage?

And the answer is simple. He was preparing his counter-attack with it. Landing a kunai above Raikage helped him to teleport on his kunai on the tree and come back on the kunai he landed earlier quickly to finish his job and Raikage was almost done for if Bee didn't intervened.

So yes Raikage in V2 is probably faster than Minato, but in terms of reflexes, Minato is above him

[Simple Math]

i agree

[natssuu]

Wasn't it stated that A's reflexes are on par with Minato's?

[Rike Senju]

Wasn't it stated that A's reflexes are on par with Minato's?

Yes I think it was on the kage summit that someone said V2 raikage has the reflexes of minato.

[KevinPJH]

Yes I think it was on the kage summit that someone said V2 raikage has the reflexes of minato.

And it was Ay himself who said Minato was faster then himself.

[icewarya]

yup.. Minato reflexes are pretty damn good..

[fairytail10]

Wow, nice man.... i agree with you+rep

[ziggyZ]

dope thread bro *****

[Narutohokage7]

Minato was a boss. We also see his insane foot speed when he rescued baby Naruto when Tobi through him.

[3MESSIAH]

true

[sunnex]

Agree.

[Itachi Minato]

damn i only just noticed that *****

[Sabuto Hayashi]

I agree!

From the evidence here, it seems that Minato's reflexes and ability to use FTG are extremely quick; quick enough to realize how close A was, and how to counterattack in seconds. Whilst the two are on par in terms of speed, I believe that Minato is slightly above A due to his reflexes.

[sulanis]

Lets be fair minato is awesome, the raikage is awesome, but Minato is just a BOSSS hahaha

[Kyuubibomb]

nice thread

[HitmanSasuke23]

Great job in doing your research and pointing that out...excellent *****

[T Bogard]

Thanks everybody for agreeing with me

[daviddragon]

good job man *****
minato is very fast.

[fastrthnwind]

Just pointing this out for arguements sake, but since Raikage had not expected for Minato to avoid his full speed, wouldn't the momentary shock be enough to compensate for his lack of reaction? Plus considering Minato's technique is instant, he had next to no time to react when Minato appeared on his back.

The next time when he charged, he was fully ready to react to wherever Minato appeared, though was caught off guard when he appeared behind Bee.

This would make it seem that raikage in V2 was at least on par with Minato in terms of reflexes, but wasnt able to show it afterwards since Minato completely caught him off guard from appearing next to Bee.

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Just pointing this out for arguements sake, but since Raikage had not expected for Minato to avoid his full speed, wouldn't the momentary shock be enough to compensate for his lack of reaction? Plus considering Minato's technique is instant, he had next to no time to react when Minato appeared on his back.

The next time when he charged, he was fully ready to react to wherever Minato appeared, though was caught off guard when he appeared behind Bee.

This would make it seem that raikage in V2 was at least on par with Minato in terms of reflexes, but wasnt able to show it afterwards since Minato completely caught him off guard from appearing next to Bee.

Doesn't matter, momentary shock is a part of reflexes you have to be sharp and alert or it will cost you your life. It may not reflect your true potential but I am sure something like that wouldn't happen to minato, if someone invaded his attack I am sure he wouldn't be in shock he would prepare for a counter attack in a flash whether it be another FTG or a FTG level 2 or whatever

[Niwdog]

Doesn't matter, momentary shock is a part of reflexes you have to be sharp and alert or it will cost you your life. It may not reflect your true potential but I am sure something like that wouldn't happen to minato, if someone invaded his attack I am sure he wouldn't be in shock he would prepare for a counter attack in a flash whether it be another FTG or a FTG level 2 or whatever

I see why you have a lot of reps. You talk a lot of sense

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I see why you have a lot of reps. You talk a lot of sense

Thanks man, it's also funny threads and post and good theories.

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

i find it hard to believe i didnt notice that before, i probably did but i smoked too much damn weed in the past, anyway *****

[shogun973]

What? no he didnt land or throw shit.....he teleported(instant) to a different kunai then teleported back to the kunai he had in his hand that he let go of before he got punched in the face

Besides that A's reflexes were not tested in those scans he got countered as in he threw the punch and minatos reflexes were tested

dodging jugos freaking final flash is reflexes

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

What? no he didnt land or throw shit.....he teleported(instant) to a different kunai then teleported back to the kunai he had in his hand that he let go of before he got punched in the face

Besides that A's reflexes were not tested in those scans he got countered as in he threw the punch and minatos reflexes were tested

dodging jugos freaking final flash is reflexes

im confused.......somebody clear this up