Minato vs Raikage(Some misconceptions)

[T Bogard]

I wanted to create this thread cuz i think people are greatly mistaking what really happened in the "fight" between Minato and Raikage. No i'm not saying Minato has a greater shunshin than Raikages in V2, it's wrong. Raikage in V2 is faster, i'm only talking about reflexes here, or simply body speed, where i believe Minato is faster. So yes, Raikage has greater speed than Minato in short distance(if we don't count FTG), but Minato has a greater body speed, and i'll try to explain why:



Look carefully at this pic, and notice the distance i draw(sorry for my bad drawing ) between Minatos hand(where he holds his kunai) and Raikages shoulder at the top of my pic. Now look where the kunai is at the bottom of my pic. What does it mean? It means that during the time, Raikage was aiming at his face, Minato had time to land a kunai on top of Raikage without he even knew, and notice that Kishimoto even draw this kunai at the end on purpose so that we should not miss it.

And notice also the distance between them when Minato uses Hiraishin to go on the tree and Raikage is still in motion roughly at the same place, and on this pic:

He come back and almost finish with Raikage while he was still in motion after the first move he made. Minato had time to do 3moves before A could do even one, while he was still in motion. People only see the fact that Raikage almost touched Minato with his punch without analysing the context. In the contrary, the fact Minato was able to dodge something almost touching his nose, something going at that high speed shows that Minatos reflexes are just insane, are just on another level, and when you know that even before that, he had time to land a kunai without Raikage notices, it's even more ridiculous.

Now people are actually saying he had no choice than using FTG, but seriously. If he had time to land a kunai above the Raikage, isn't that obvious that if he wanted, he could have dodge it? Now the question you must ask you is why did he landed the kunai on Raikage?

And the answer is simple. He was preparing his counter-attack with it. Landing a kunai above Raikage helped him to teleport on his kunai on the tree and come back on the kunai he landed earlier quickly to finish his job and Raikage was almost done for if Bee didn't intervened.

So yes Raikage in V2 is probably faster than Minato, but in terms of reflexes, Minato is above him

[Simple Math]

i agree

[natssuu]

Wasn't it stated that A's reflexes are on par with Minato's?

[icewarya]

yup.. Minato reflexes are pretty damn good..

[fairytail10]

Wow, nice man.... i agree with you+rep

[Narutohokage7]

Minato was a boss. We also see his insane foot speed when he rescued baby Naruto when Tobi through him.

[ziggyZ]

dope thread bro *****

[3MESSIAH]

true

[sunnex]

Agree.

[Itachi Minato]

damn i only just noticed that *****

[Rike Senju]

Wasn't it stated that A's reflexes are on par with Minato's?

Yes I think it was on the kage summit that someone said V2 raikage has the reflexes of minato.

[Sabuto Hayashi]

I agree!

From the evidence here, it seems that Minato's reflexes and ability to use FTG are extremely quick; quick enough to realize how close A was, and how to counterattack in seconds. Whilst the two are on par in terms of speed, I believe that Minato is slightly above A due to his reflexes.

[sulanis]

Lets be fair minato is awesome, the raikage is awesome, but Minato is just a BOSSS hahaha

[Kyuubibomb]

nice thread

[HitmanSasuke23]

Great job in doing your research and pointing that out...excellent *****

[T Bogard]

Thanks everybody for agreeing with me

[daviddragon]

good job man *****
minato is very fast.

[fastrthnwind]

Just pointing this out for arguements sake, but since Raikage had not expected for Minato to avoid his full speed, wouldn't the momentary shock be enough to compensate for his lack of reaction? Plus considering Minato's technique is instant, he had next to no time to react when Minato appeared on his back.

The next time when he charged, he was fully ready to react to wherever Minato appeared, though was caught off guard when he appeared behind Bee.

This would make it seem that raikage in V2 was at least on par with Minato in terms of reflexes, but wasnt able to show it afterwards since Minato completely caught him off guard from appearing next to Bee.

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

i find it hard to believe i didnt notice that before, i probably did but i smoked too much damn weed in the past, anyway *****

[shogun973]

What? no he didnt land or throw shit.....he teleported(instant) to a different kunai then teleported back to the kunai he had in his hand that he let go of before he got punched in the face

Besides that A's reflexes were not tested in those scans he got countered as in he threw the punch and minatos reflexes were tested

dodging jugos freaking final flash is reflexes

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

What? no he didnt land or throw shit.....he teleported(instant) to a different kunai then teleported back to the kunai he had in his hand that he let go of before he got punched in the face

Besides that A's reflexes were not tested in those scans he got countered as in he threw the punch and minatos reflexes were tested

dodging jugos freaking final flash is reflexes

im confused.......somebody clear this up

[XxOUTZxX]

What? no he didnt land or throw shit.....he teleported(instant) to a different kunai then teleported back to the kunai he had in his hand that he let go of before he got punched in the face

Besides that A's reflexes were not tested in those scans he got countered as in he threw the punch and minatos reflexes were tested

dodging jugos freaking final flash is reflexes

Agree with this....scan shows Minato drops the kunai...ftg to kunai on tree and ftg back to the dropped kunai above A...IMO Minato's reflexes are still faster then A's in V2...but A's pure speed in V2 is barely quicker then Minato w/o Ftg...just my opinion

[Ngylle]

im confused.......somebody clear this up

Yeah, Minato just left the kunai he had on his hand before the raikage punch him in the face, he dint really have that time to put the kunai over there or to land it from the tree.

since minato's technique is instantanous it does mattar how how fast is raikage, instantanous is instantanous, minato dodged but raikage trew the punch missed and passed by the kunai that minato left behind.

minato then came back in a blink to the kunai that was almost at raikages's back but there is where the problem comes in, minato does not have a technique to stop time.
raikage v1=minato speed and reflex.

raikage was already in fast motion passing thrue the kunai when minato came back to it, it does not matter how some put it, but minat would have not be able to land the hit on raikage, because minato had to teleport to the kunai then quickly attack raikage.. it does not make much sense to me...

if there are in pair of speed how the **** was minato planing on hiting raikage, when minago is in raikages back and in the mid air, while raikage is running already. raikage does not have to accelerate, he is already accelerated, minato is the one who as to.

But at the end of that scene, Bee's tail>minato'sharishim and speed>raikage lol

[Raikiri10]

Bottom line is Raikage was bested regardless of reflexes his arrogance lead him to believe his full speed was capable of catching anyone.

[Blaze Release]

You confuse me, its seems at one minute you are talking about speed if you consider teleportation speed (hiraishin) and then some other parts you are talking about reaction time, not sure which one it is. If anything all youve said is talked about hiraishin and unless im confusing something.