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  • View Poll Results: Do you agree that Danzou acquired a Sharingan

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    • Yes, he got the eye off a dead or dying Uchiha.

      29 69.05%
    • No, he's actually Madara, Obito, or some other Uchiha.

      6 14.29%
    • I don't know.

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      Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Supposition: I'm not denying that he may be Tobi, Madara, Izuna, Obito, etc. We don't have enough evidence, but those are good theories, and this latest result supports those, but they don't dismiss the argument below.

      I am merely writing this to have an alternate theory that explains the Sharingan. If it turns out he's not one of the above, we need an alternate explanation. Perhaps some could call this the:
      "bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory"

      1.) If we recall, according to Madara, Danzou ordered the elimination of the Uchiha along with the elders. Given that, there would be a lot of bodies with Sharingans in them. It's not like they were Ameratsu cremated.

      2.) People have mentioned that it was the same medical technique by Rin except performed by Kabuto to implant the. Kabuto is an expert medical ninjutsu and believed to be a leaf shinobi (e.g. Chuunin exams), so that's perfectly plausible. He could've entered the village, performed his jutsu and left unnoticed. At that point maybe the Sharingan worked on/off. Perhaps it can't be turned off now, which is why he needs Kabuto to help heal him. Interestingly, I would think that Tsunade could've helped Kakashi unless the only way to do so is a forbidden jutsu she doesn't know but Kabuto specializes in.

      3.)Finally, I believe taking a Sharingan eye rather than being born with one fits Danzou's personality better. He'll do whatever it takes to become Hokage and more (now that he is Hokage), and I think that taking an eyeball is in line with that. Further, his plans seem to backfire (e.g. Nagato, Sasuke, and Orochimaru). This would be consistent with the idea that he can't turn it off like Kakashi.

      I'm not going to push this theory in front of the others (Danzou is Madara, Tobi,..., Obito). I'm happy with it as an alternative theory. To me it feels simpler than the others, but I'm curious what you think.
       
           
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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
      Supposition: I'm not denying that he may be Tobi, Madara, Izuna, Obito, etc. We don't have enough evidence, but those are good theories, and this latest result supports those, but they don't dismiss the argument below.

      I am merely writing this to have an alternate theory that explains the Sharingan. If it turns out he's not one of the above, we need an alternate explanation. Perhaps some could call this the:
      "bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory"

      If we recall, according to Madara, Danzou ordered the elimination of the Uchiha along with the elders. Given that, there would be a lot of bodies with Sharingans in them. It's not like they were Ameratsu cremated.

      People have mentioned that it was the same medical technique by Rin except performed by Kabuto to implant the. Kabuto is an expert medical ninjutsu and believed to be a leaf shinobi (e.g. Chuunin exams), so that's perfectly plausible. He could've entered the village, performed his jutsu and left unnoticed. At that point maybe the Sharingan worked on/off. Perhaps it can't be turned off now, which is why he needs Kabuto to help heal him. Interestingly, I would think that Tsunade could've helped Kakashi unless the only way to do so is a forbidden jutsu she doesn't know but Kabuto specializes in.

      Sharingan Finally, I believe taking a Sharingan eye rather than being born with one fits Danzou's personality better. He'll do whatever it takes to become Hokage and more (now that he is Hokage), and I think that taking an eyeball is in line with that. Further, his plans seem to backfire (e.g. Nagato, Sasuke, and Orochimaru). This would be consistent with the idea that he can't turn it off like Kakashi.

      I'm not going to push this theory in front of the others (Danzou is Madara, Tobi,..., Obito). I'm happy with it as an alternative theory. To me it feels simpler than the others, but I'm curious what you think.
      No. Kabuto served Orochimaru. orochimaru wanted Sharingan. Kabuto would have brought him Sharingan. Also wouldnt anyone notice that Danzo had Sharingan? Even if he put bandages, didnt anyone wonder when did he get hit?
      So many holes...
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Quote Originally Posted by peaceful View Post
      No. Kabuto served Orochimaru. orochimaru wanted Sharingan. Kabuto would have brought him Sharingan. Also wouldnt anyone notice that Danzo had Sharingan? Even if he put bandages, didnt anyone wonder when did he get hit?
      So many holes...
      Orochimaru wanted the real sharingan to defeat Itachi. When Kakashi fought Itachi, he got owned by Tsukiyomi because he didn't have the genetics. That's why he needed Sasuke's body, which had a full fledged Sharingan in it.

      Danzou had bandages over his eye back when we saw him betray Nagato. That was more than 16 years ago I believe since Nagato was at least 10 and Naruto wasn't around. If his regular and Sharingan eye were always behind a bandage, then why would people suspect it. He doesn't get doctor physicals.

      Orochimaru may have wanted Sharingan eyes, but I don't know how well they transfer every three years.
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
      Orochimaru wanted the real sharingan to defeat Itachi. When Kakashi fought Itachi, he got owned by Tsukiyomi because he didn't have the genetics. That's why he needed Sasuke's body, which had a full fledged Sharingan in it.

      Danzou had bandages over his eye back when we saw him betray Nagato. That was more than 16 years ago I believe since Nagato was at least 10 and Naruto wasn't around. If his regular and Sharingan eye were always behind a bandage, then why would people suspect it. He doesn't get doctor physicals.

      Orochimaru may have wanted Sharingan eyes, but I don't know how well they transfer every three years.
      He does not have to transfer every three years. Believe me would not have problem having just the sharingan eyes in the beggining. The elders would see that an eye was missing from an uchiha body. etc...
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Quote Originally Posted by peaceful View Post
      He does not have to transfer every three years. Believe me would not have problem having just the sharingan eyes in the beggining. The elders would see that an eye was missing from an uchiha body. etc...
      Orochimaru transfers bodies every three years, so I presume he wanted the eye to transfer too. I also think he would've been discrete when removing the eye such as destroying the body. As stated, Orochimaru probably couldn't have defeated Itachi with an implanted eye if it functions like Kakashi's.

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
      Orochimaru transfers bodies every three years, so I presume he wanted the eye to transfer too. I also think he would've been discrete when removing the eye such as destroying the body. As stated, Orochimaru probably couldn't have defeated Itachi with an implanted eye if it functions like Kakashi's.

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      No. He does not need to transfer every three years... And Orochimarus goal was not defeat Itachi. He wanted to learn every jutsu. Look what Kakashi did with one yes sharingan. So yes you are wrong...
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      this guy is right he didn't have to transfer, but he had the abillity to transfer after three years and he wanted sasuke's body as soon as possible. also if kabuto could give transplant eyes he probably would have killed many people looking for good eye techniqes like the sharingan (beakugan) stuff like that, he needed sasuke's body so he could be young and when he transfers again he would still have his eyes.
      its very possible for danzo to be tobi, but i find it highly suspect that they show kakashi's story a while before tobi gets his plan nder way.............?? sorry i just want it to be obito bt its probably not!
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      he either got the eye from obito's dead body or he is a surving uchiha but not madara
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
      Supposition: I'm not denying that he may be Tobi, Madara, Izuna, Obito, etc. We don't have enough evidence, but those are good theories, and this latest result supports those, but they don't dismiss the argument below.

      I am merely writing this to have an alternate theory that explains the Sharingan. If it turns out he's not one of the above, we need an alternate explanation. Perhaps some could call this the:
      "bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory"

      1.) If we recall, according to Madara, Danzou ordered the elimination of the Uchiha along with the elders. Given that, there would be a lot of bodies with Sharingans in them. It's not like they were Ameratsu cremated.

      2.) People have mentioned that it was the same medical technique by Rin except performed by Kabuto to implant the. Kabuto is an expert medical ninjutsu and believed to be a leaf shinobi (e.g. Chuunin exams), so that's perfectly plausible. He could've entered the village, performed his jutsu and left unnoticed. At that point maybe the Sharingan worked on/off. Perhaps it can't be turned off now, which is why he needs Kabuto to help heal him. Interestingly, I would think that Tsunade could've helped Kakashi unless the only way to do so is a forbidden jutsu she doesn't know but Kabuto specializes in.

      3.)Finally, I believe taking a Sharingan eye rather than being born with one fits Danzou's personality better. He'll do whatever it takes to become Hokage and more (now that he is Hokage), and I think that taking an eyeball is in line with that. Further, his plans seem to backfire (e.g. Nagato, Sasuke, and Orochimaru). This would be consistent with the idea that he can't turn it off like Kakashi.

      I'm not going to push this theory in front of the others (Danzou is Madara, Tobi,..., Obito). I'm happy with it as an alternative theory. To me it feels simpler than the others, but I'm curious what you think.
      Hmm....yea, it sounds like a good theory.
      Right now I'm still leaning towards Danzou=Tobi or Madara or Izuna but not so much on Danzou=Obito.

      The reason I say this is because his other eye (left eye) would be gone, or he would've had to have transplanted another one, but there are no scars around his left eye indicating a sugery/transplant.

      As we've not seen the other half of Tobi's face yet....I'm leaning more in that direction...

      But if that gets disproved and no other evidence comes up to point towards another theory, I think yours is one of the better canidates for being the truth.
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Kaito View Post
      he either got the eye from obito's dead body or he is a surving uchiha but not madara

      don't worry bro if u right we will do what peaceful thread is suggesting but if we are right u have to do it ... thats it .... ..... danzo has the sharingan and all of us we had been saying this for months lol and people were saying no he don't .. bla bla .he can't have the sharingan .... and them pow danzo shows the sharingan ..lol Im just happy for that .
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Quote Originally Posted by peaceful View Post
      No. He does not need to transfer every three years... And Orochimarus goal was not defeat Itachi. He wanted to learn every jutsu. Look what Kakashi did with one yes sharingan. So yes you are wrong...
      Quote Originally Posted by fugikai View Post
      this guy is right he didn't have to transfer, but he had the abillity to transfer after three years and he wanted sasuke's body as soon as possible. also if kabuto could give transplant eyes he probably would have killed many people looking for good eye techniqes like the sharingan (beakugan) stuff like that, he needed sasuke's body so he could be young and when he transfers again he would still have his eyes.
      its very possible for danzo to be tobi, but i find it highly suspect that they show kakashi's story a while before tobi gets his plan nder way.............?? sorry i just want it to be obito bt its probably not!
      Orochimaru does have to transfer to a new body every three years because thats the time limit of the Living Corpse Reincarnation Jutsu he uses
      Name: Living Corpse Reincarnation (不屍転生, Fushi Tensei; English TV "Immortality Jutsu")
      Type: Kinjutsu, S-rank, Supplementary[1]
      User: Orochimaru
      Debut (Anime): Naruto Episode
      Debut (Manga): Chapter 199
      This jutsu, developed by Orochimaru, allows him to transfer his mind to someone else's body. If repeated periodically, it basically grants the user immortality as long as they can find new host bodies and keep the host alive. Orochimaru can only perform this technique once every three years. It also seems that when the three years are almost over, he is forced to move into another host, as the previous one begins to reject him. .
      To perform this technique, Orochimaru reveals his true form, a gigantic white snake composed of smaller white snakes, by abandoning his current host's body. Orochimaru then swallows the new host and takes him or her to a separate, mental plane where he envelops the mind of his victim. The snake body then dies, and Orochimaru's soul dominates the body (though the Sharingan seems to be able to negate and reverse the process against Orochimaru). The souls of the hosts are kept alive within Orochimaru, leaving them "still alive," in a sense (albeit suppressed), and when Orochimaru switches hosts, the souls leave with him. Apparently if the host of these souls' chakra level falls enough it is possible for them to resurface in material form as seen with Orochimaru surfacing with his own body after Sasuke used up most of his chakra.
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Good points, yeah. Speaking of Rin.... her fate hasn't been made clear yet so she might have had a doing (probably forced) in the whole danzou transplantation thing should it be that it's the case.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
      Orochimaru wanted the real sharingan to defeat Itachi. When Kakashi fought Itachi, he got owned by Tsukiyomi because he didn't have the genetics. That's why he needed Sasuke's body, which had a full fledged Sharingan in it.

      Danzou had bandages over his eye back when we saw him betray Nagato. That was more than 16 years ago I believe since Nagato was at least 10 and Naruto wasn't around. If his regular and Sharingan eye were always behind a bandage, then why would people suspect it. He doesn't get doctor physicals.

      Orochimaru may have wanted Sharingan eyes, but I don't know how well they transfer every three years.
      dont undeerestimate kabuto he could transplant them and keep the eyes from dying his area of expertise is dead or dying organisms AKA dead soul jutsu reanimated dead bodies
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      back on topic if you look even closer at the pic u will notice that the s-gan is slightly higher than his other eye i dont know how inportant this is but its if nothing else thought provoking
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      I have a feeling that he is not a true Uchiha and that is exasctly why he fears Sasuke, Why else would his eye be bandaged up like that just like Kakashi's eye is his Sharingan is always on and it takes its toll on a person. But he could be an uchiha but i don't see it
       
           

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      Wat i thinks is that if you can remember wat Itachi was telling Sasuke about being born into the Uchia Clan is that 1 son has to give up his eye to the other and if u can see that Donzou and Tobi/Mardra Both only Have One Sharigan eye Dozou Right Madra Left So i think that they are brothers and wen marda to Itachi that he took is brothers eye i think that he only got ahold of 1 thats y donzou still has his
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      i think like Kakashi Danzo has to cover his eye to prevent the sharingan from consuming his chakra..
      so i chose he obtained it from an uchiha.:confused:
       
           

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Hello I just joined 2day

      I also thought danzo was tobi but my friend who stop watch/reading naruto said that made no sense tobi was the leader of the mist at one point and that would give him way to much power in the naruto universe he cant be the leader of three different things also if you look at the chapter where he tries to reviel him self to sasuke look at his eye then go look at danzo, danzo's eye look deformed to me idk it just look weird ( maybe because ive never seen a old guy with sharingan XP) i dont think hes tobi

      p.s also some where else on the forums the ask if you could transplant the left eye into a right the answer is yes if it was the case eye transplants would be impossible both you eye work extactly the same way if each eye was in control of one direction we would be a Chameleon our eyes work together to see str8 thats why of we lose one we are still able to function....................

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      Re: Bench warmer Danzou Sharingan theory

      Ok well i looked at the mangas both when madara reveals half of his face and danzou revealing the sharingan.
      it is very plausible that danzou can be madara
      if ur wondering y...
      it is becuz that the wrinkles on danzou is very similar to madaras but it is really 50 50 i am just saying

      BY THE WAY madara was not the leader of hidden mist.
      and if u were thinking of i think it is rain. ( sorry if i got this wrong)
      pein was the leader..
      madara was only leader of the uchiha and the akatsuki.
      ALSO the sharingan in danzou's eye did look different but that was only becuz he was using it.
      and by the way madara cant turn of his sharingan either
      if anyone even a uchiha member has a transfer in a sharingan eye the eye can never turn off.
      thats y madara uses the mask as well as so he doesnt reveal his identity
       
           

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