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    I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    And it's not as complex as we've been making it out to be. Look at this pic and see if you figure it out


    Zoro and Sanji are opposites, one crass one polite, one brute strength one finesse, one arms one legs,

    One has only a right eye showing the other only has a left eye showing.

    And that's it, Zoro's left eye is shut and only using his right eye because Sanji's right eye is covered and he uses his left, it's just another contrast tool between the two. I know we all have been hoping for some crazy power to come from Zoro opening his eye but maybe this is really all there is to it.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    didn't notice eye thing until u pointed out lol
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    It's certainly better than him having the sharingan or being the same as Kenpachi. You train with the World Strongest Swordsman you lose an eye, simple as that.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    It's certainly true how there characteristics are polar opposites. But to think Zoro has just been closing his eye is ludicrous. He obviously had it cut off as were sanji still has both eyes in.his socket. And your forgetting zoro is stronger than sanji
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by AllseeingSharingan View Post
    It's certainly true how there characteristics are polar opposites. But to think Zoro has just been closing his eye is ludicrous. He obviously had it cut off as were sanji still has both eyes in.his socket. And your forgetting zoro is stronger than sanji
    I didn't say(or imply) he was keeping it shut, I meant, Oda closed his eye as a contrast to Sanji. Zoro's eye was damaged training I believe, as KM said I doubt he lost it I'm sure it's still in his socket just not functional anymore. Also strength isn't a contrast since both are strong.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by AllseeingSharingan View Post
    It's certainly true how there characteristics are polar opposites. But to think Zoro has just been closing his eye is ludicrous. He obviously had it cut off as were sanji still has both eyes in.his socket. And your forgetting zoro is stronger than sanji
    oh really now..
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    I thought it was cut because of that guy.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by AllseeingSharingan View Post
    It's certainly true how there characteristics are polar opposites. But to think Zoro has just been closing his eye is ludicrous. He obviously had it cut off as were sanji still has both eyes in.his socket. And your forgetting zoro is stronger than sanji
    Not the point, iirc Oda refers Zoro/Sanji to Luffy's "wings" (don't quote me on that since I vaguely remember it).

    OT: Seems like my sig. sparked a theory, I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional. It's Oda & that's quite symbolic.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordraikage View Post
    oh really now..
    He is.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    thanks for sharing didn't notice that, i hope he doesn't get some power up by opening his eye like you said
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by ᴀɴᴜʙɪs View Post
    I thought it was cut because of that guy.
    I think it was cut by Mihawk but a lot of theories have come up about Zoro hiding some skill in that eye or gaining some crazy powerup when it opens, I'm saying Oda probably had his left eye damaged in the story so it would be another contrast between him and Sanji. I don't think there's some big power-up coming from that eye like a lot of people are theorizing.


    And yes Corazon I believe it was you in the other thread.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Hmmmm in all honesty I find this wishful thinking. Sanji always had one eye covered by his hair, originally it was his left eye. Zoro didn't had any issues with his eyes, only after the timeskip his left eye got closed and likewise after the timeskip Sanji started to cover his right eye instead of his left. Zo for starters Sanji still has both of his eyes, that one is always covered with his hair doesn't really matter as he can very well still see through it and I doubt his hair is blocking his view much. On top of that Sanji always had one eye covered, which was not the case for Zoro.

    That alone makes this all being a symbolic thing very doubtful. If that was done intentionally, it's majorly screwed up as there is nothing symbolic about it. Then I need to add to that that people seem to have a very wrong image of the relationship between Zoro and Sanji, they are not polar opposites and Oda never did much either to make it appear as such nor that the Zoro - Sanji relationship is somehow an important item that it has to be strongly visually represented. Yes they have different personalities, but that doesn't make them opposites and in fact IMO one of the reasons as why they don't seem to get along that well, is because they have some similar personality traits. For instance they were competing with each other on Little Garden to see who could catch the biggest dino and then, like little kids, were going on about how 'mine was bigger than yours'. If they were opposites, one of them shouldn't have bothered at all with such a competition and there are many examples like this.

    There is some kind of rivalry between them, but that's about it. They are not opposites of each other nor is their relationship with each other that particularly special that Oda has to make a screwed up ambiguous symbolic sign on their faces for it.

    You say that's all there is to it. I completely disagree, who says there was even anything to it in the first place? Did it ever occur to anyone that it might just be a scar, a regular scar with no particular meaning? Frankly you going on about how this all is something symbolic is no better at all than suggesting that he is intentionally closing that eye and becomes stronger when he opens it.

    I mean Luffy has a horizontal scar under his left eye. And what do we see now? Zoro has a VERTICAL scar over his left eye. Together that would make a cross, which could then Oda trying to symbolize the loss of losing someone you cared about both of them suffered! After the battle with Senor Pink, Frank's left eye was damage making him look like a cyborg. The same eye both Zoro and Luffy have a scar! And Nami has a scar on her left arm, which she covered up with a tattoo! Does this mean this is a symbolic representation of her relationship with Sanji, who covers an eye? Seriously you are just seeing what you want to see as with this kind of reasoning, you can see symbolism behind everything. Ace having Sabo's jolly roger tattooed on his arm years before Sabo even got introduced, making people assume it was just some kind of an error when in reality it had an extremely high level of emotions behind it, that is the kind of symbolism Oda dictates. Zoro's scar being some kind of a pair with Sanji's flowing hair is a joke.
     
         
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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Put some clothes on chopstickchakra, you're genius is showing.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Its stupidly possible that he has an eye like Mihawk

    Rinnegan too hehe jp
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    Hmmmm in all honesty I find this wishful thinking. Sanji always had one eye covered by his hair, originally it was his left eye. Zoro didn't had any issues with his eyes, only after the timeskip his left eye got closed and likewise after the timeskip Sanji started to cover his right eye instead of his left. Zo for starters Sanji still has both of his eyes, that one is always covered with his hair doesn't really matter as he can very well still see through it and I doubt his hair is blocking his view much. On top of that Sanji always had one eye covered, which was not the case for Zoro.

    That alone makes this all being a symbolic thing very doubtful. If that was done intentionally, it's majorly screwed up as there is nothing symbolic about it. Then I need to add to that that people seem to have a very wrong image of the relationship between Zoro and Sanji, they are not polar opposites and Oda never did much either to make it appear as such nor that the Zoro - Sanji relationship is somehow an important item that it has to be strongly visually represented. Yes they have different personalities, but that doesn't make them opposites and in fact IMO one of the reasons as why they don't seem to get along that well, is because they have some similar personality traits. For instance they were competing with each other on Little Garden to see who could catch the biggest dino and then, like little kids, were going on about how 'mine was bigger than yours'. If they were opposites, one of them shouldn't have bothered at all with such a competition and there are many examples like this.

    There is some kind of rivalry between them, but that's about it. They are not opposites of each other nor is their relationship with each other that particularly special that Oda has to make a screwed up ambiguous symbolic sign on their faces for it.

    You say that's all there is to it. I completely disagree, who says there was even anything to it in the first place? Did it ever occur to anyone that it might just be a scar, a regular scar with no particular meaning? Frankly you going on about how this all is something symbolic is no better at all than suggesting that he is intentionally closing that eye and becomes stronger when he opens it.

    I mean Luffy has a horizontal scar under his left eye. And what do we see now? Zoro has a VERTICAL scar over his left eye. Together that would make a cross, which could then Oda trying to symbolize the loss of losing someone you cared about both of them suffered! After the battle with Senor Pink, Frank's left eye was damage making him look like a cyborg. The same eye both Zoro and Luffy have a scar! And Nami has a scar on her left arm, which she covered up with a tattoo! Does this mean this is a symbolic representation of her relationship with Sanji, who covers an eye? Seriously you are just seeing what you want to see as with this kind of reasoning, you can see symbolism behind everything. Ace having Sabo's jolly roger tattooed on his arm years before Sabo even got introduced, making people assume it was just some kind of an error when in reality it had an extremely high level of emotions behind it, that is the kind of symbolism Oda dictates. Zoro's scar being some kind of a pair with Sanji's flowing hair is a joke.
    You said it yourself, it's after the time skip, i.e. at the time skip Oda thought of a way to contrast the two further with Zoro's eye. It's an aesthetic contrast not a functional one.

    I don't know about other people but I didn't say they were polar opposites just that they contrast each other a lot like 2 sides of the same coin, plus as Corazon said if he remembered correctly Oda refers Zoro/Sanji to Luffy's "wings" so it's like two halves make a whole, add Zoro and Sanji the way they are represented now and you get two visible eyes and someone who uses legs and arms, if it helps you you can think of them as a Ying Yang and the eye is the dot. Even though they have contrasting characteristics they're complementary.

    "Zoro's scar being some kind of a pair with Sanji's flowing hair is a joke."
    This line here makes me think you didn't get the jist of it.

    The scar and the hair have nothing to do with my point, my point is sort of like you said Zoro and Sanji are very similar yet they have these core contrasts between the two of them, I think Oda decided to have Zoro's eye be closed in the story to draw a parallel between him and Sanji who are both essentially Luffy's left and right hand(when it comes to fighting)
     
         
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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    You are wrong sir.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    I disagree, but great read
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by chopstickchakra View Post
    You said it yourself, it's after the time skip, i.e. at the time skip Oda thought of a way to contrast the two further with Zoro's eye. It's an aesthetic contrast not a functional one.

    I don't know about other people but I didn't say they were polar opposites just that they contrast each other a lot like 2 sides of the same coin, plus as Corazon said if he remembered correctly Oda refers Zoro/Sanji to Luffy's "wings" so it's like two halves make a whole, add Zoro and Sanji the way they are represented now and you get two visible eyes and someone who uses legs and arms, if it helps you you can think of them as a Ying Yang and the eye is the dot. Even though they have contrasting characteristics they're complementary.

    "Zoro's scar being some kind of a pair with Sanji's flowing hair is a joke."
    This line here makes me think you didn't get the jist of it.

    The scar and the hair have nothing to do with my point, my point is sort of like you said Zoro and Sanji are very similar yet they have these core contrasts between the two of them, I think Oda decided to have Zoro's eye be closed in the story to draw a parallel between him and Sanji who are both essentially Luffy's left and right hand(when it comes to fighting)
    Getting the gist of it? The gist is Zoro has his left eye closed and Sanji has the tendency to every few years or so sweep his hair to the other side of his face making his eye difficult to see, which happens to be his right side now. And you see in that some kind of an almost certain fact that Oda intentionally did that to symbolize the 'contrasting' relationship between the two. What is there difficult to understand about it? And then I refer completely back to my first post on how that is a joke and that it's just you that wants to see it that way, but that in reality there is barely anything that backs it up as the reasoning you used can be used to say the same thing about a lot of other characters as it's an extremely shallow and subjective interpretation.

    Fujitora has lost both eyes and he is a swordsman, this MUST be a symbolic visual statement of the relationship between Fujitora and Zoro, that Fujitora is his father or something. When the timeskip just happened, people were also going on about how Zoro's scar matched that of Rayleigh's, which they said was supposed to symbolize the relationship between Luffy and Zoro as how Rayleigh was to Roger. And you can go on and on about this.

    As a visual contrast this is indeed a joke. Now if it happens so that Sanji would have a scar over his right eye, now then try again. But saying that Zoro has one closed eye and Sanji having his hair covering the opposite one as an intentional visual representation of a non-existing contrasting relationship, yes I find that a joke when you then at the same time are going to act that Zoro becoming potentially stronger if he would open that eye is too far-fetched, while that what you say does not have much more or even less going for it, but act like it's clear as day.

    Zoro and Sanji don't have a particular contrasting relationship, if anything they seem to butt heads with the parts of their personalities that are similar, and there is no reason whatsoever to symbolize on their faces this supposed contrast and even less with such a bad one. Contrast and opposite are pretty much the same thing here as you can't have a contrast if two things aren't very different. If you are going to see a difference there, you pretty much admitted that you only see what you want to see as all the Strawhats would be contrasting with one another following your own logic, but you only decide to look at Zoro and Sanji. Same thing with your comment about the scar. Saying that, you reduced this all to that Zoro has one eye closed, Sanji has something covering his other eye and that is then Oda intentionally trying to visually represent their relationship. Seriously the more you read all of this, the more obvious it becomes how feeble this entire reasoning is.

    The comments of those wings and coins are also very misplaced and don't make much sense as again you can interpret them in so many ways, it's useless to mention it. For instance I can interpret that as that Zoro and Sanji are supposed to be nearly completely identical, have to flawlessly work together and that one can not exist without the other. But in the series they continuously argue with each other. That you are going on about how one is using his hands and the other his legs, is almost childish. Zoro uses swords, which are most easiest used with your hands. He however also uses one with his mouth. I'll eagerly anticipate the day I see Sanji choking a man to death with his ass. Not to mention Sanji has used a bladed weapon before, he simply does not use his arms directly as he needs them to cook. He however uses them passively in some moves, just like how zoro needs his legs to move his body. Even among martial arts that solely focus on using your arms, the movement of your legs is crucial and vice versa. Not to mention are Zoro and Sanji the only characters who use their arms and legs to fight?

    You see what you want to see. Again if I follow your logic and reasoning I can do this: Zoro and Luffy both have a scar on the left side of their faces and a scar on their chests. This clearly shows that Zoro is Luffy's closed companion, that Zoro is higher than Sanji on all aspects. I just ended, using your logic, all the debates about Sanji vs Zoro. Zoro is simply the strongest, the vice-captain, the Nr 2 of the Strawhats. He is higher than Sanji. It's clearly visually represented by Oda on their bodies. Case closed. Now if you don't agree with this, you can't agree with your own reasoning as this is what you did.
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    Hey OP would you like some aloe vera ? you just got Caliburned......
     
         

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    Re: I figured out why Zoro's left eye is closed, 80% sure.

    I knew it, the moment I saw that pic. Things are never this simple with oda, maybe with Kishi but not oda.

    Have a good day sir.
     
         

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