[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 603 Discussion and 604 Predictions

[Bramjansen9]

It is very clear now! Zetsu say that in the genjutsu of Madara the dead people can come back alive! Obito is not going to be an evil person! after Rin dies he only agreed with Madara's plan just to bring her back! do you remember that Kakashi asked why Obito is doing this? Obito said because you let Rin die!

[Nikohru]

603 was alright.

604 is probably going to show how Obito saw Rin die, hence his hate towards Kakashi-sensei.

The End

[saints00025]

It is very clear now! Zetsu say that in the genjutsu of Madara the dead people can come back alive! Obito is not going to be an evil person! after Rin dies he only agreed with Madara's plan just to bring her back! do you remember that Kakashi asked why Obito is doing this? Obito said because you let Rin die!

i agree completely.

[Uzumaki Naruto ftw]

Hey guys!!! OK from what i gathered from this is chapter was these interesting events

1) Kakashi's picture was tapped/covered by Obito whilst he day dreams/infatuates over Rin.
(seems that he's already forgotten about their Bromance moment when kakashi lost his eye)

*** Also with the amount of hair that Obito has grown it would be safe to say that he's been in cave for a few months/years****

2) Zetsu's ability for recording events he has to be reconnected back to the Gedo Mazo for playback via those cables

3) On the last page we see Obito inside a zetsu which is fully covered (left side) And on the Right we see what we can only assume to be is Madara without Life Support cables on the right

****Which could mean that Madara infact can leave this place by unknown means**** an important piece of information if you are interested in Hidden Mists Politics Madara could have placed a "hit" order out on Rin/Kakashi

he has the cable

[Mr.Beastie]

At least now it makes sense who controlled the Mizukage.
But after this, dunno why I have the impression that he'll turn good.
Why? Because it will be that thing that back then, it was a fight amongst the countries but now they fight as one, bla bla and there goes good boy Tobi will be back again.

the one who controlled the mizukage was probably the real madara.

[Chatte]

the one who controlled the mizukage was probably the real madara.

Oh well, in the end I don't care to be honest.
To me the story has went down too much to be honest.
But anyway.

[jd9393]

Why doesn't Obito just use Rinne-Tensei to revive Rin?

I'm thinking that she died in a way that made that technique impossible. Maybe Kakashi accidentally Kamui'd half her body in the upcoming fight and that caused him to never use it again..until Shippuden and Obito then takes Rin to Madara's hideout to try and save her using the Zetsu's but fails and then gives in to Madara's plan. It's a helluva long shot, but that what's I think.

[MirrorWheelEyes]

I think that the masked "tobi suit" slowly takes control of Obitio's mind. When he puts it on, look at white Zetsu. He says, "He's.....A good boy." That would explain the tobi alter ego of being clumsy and loopy when he first joined the Akatsuki. It is the same personality as the "tobi suit" that we saw in this chapter, and in my opinion, probably the same exact voice too. Maybe Obito was never convinced to go along with Madara's plan, but his mind was simply overcome by the suit. After his mind was drained over this time, eventually, even his Obitio personality believed in Madara's plan. This upcoming fight when Obito sees Rin die will be the tipping point for Obito. This explains why Kakashi is so shell shocked right now, because Obito was actually present when Rin died, and Kakashi knows it.
Overall, I wonder who that third white guy outside was that Obito talked about. I wonder how much time elapsed from the very beginning to the end of the chapter. I wonder where Madara is. I'm thinking SOMEONE (maybe even a weak Madara) put on the "third white guy suit" and attacked the village. Thus, it was not Obito, but rather another masked man.

Nope. The masked man used the same time/space technique as Tobi so it has to be obito fighting minato

[KillerbYo]

1. "lower parts means poo".

2. Another hint black zetsu i Obito goo.

3. Seems the goofyness Obito had might come from Zetsu, Already said that long ago so i was right again.



Guessing. My more then one year old theory of Tobis past is still legit. He will enter Konoha, as a member in Anbu.

[chakrawizard555]

I actually loved this chapter! The only thing that I found weird was that Madara said they were between their world and the next, although they're obviously in Tobi's hideout (before it was Tobi's hideout, that is). We now know the right side of his body isn't covered in scars, but instead was completely replaced, though it seems his eye was saved, too. So, based on this, his first mask was originally created from Hashirama's cells, just like White Zetsu? And where was Black Zetsu at that time? Everything's starting to explain itself and I really can't wait for the next chapter:D

[pjoli]

I wonder what Zetsu means when he said that Madara "ordered them to take Obito there." I'm still a bit confused how Madara found Obito.

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/603/5

[Wparker6804]

Obito trying to kiss that picture of Rin was kind of awquard and pathetic.

It explains why Obito had long hair when he confronted Kisami and the Mizukage.

[MellowHype]

flashbacks.. inside of a f-ckin flashback. flashception?

[SEEDLESS]

GUYS!
you know how white zetsu takes the chakra of some people
Maybe that was zetsu plan
Once obito gets out. he kills obito and takes the form for himself...

you said well... that was I was thinking too

[kagekamiha]

Enjoyable...
Makes sense about the half zetsu part of obito. Also with the fact that he is training and mastering the wood element. I would assume that they are being attacked by kisame. Go you think Gai might be part of the fight as well? Considering how Kisame was always trying to get gai to remember him?

[KillerbYo]

good sig.

[Wparker6804]

the one who controlled the mizukage was probably the real madara.

Well, current Madara has white and grey hair. Obito already has long hair, as we can see. Who knows.

As far as black Zetsu? He probably wasn't made until later. I like the idea of the whole "Zetsu Battle Suit," as it explains how Obito was so tall.

I think Obito will see Rin die, activate his Mangekyo Sharingan, and thus, Kamui. Filled with rage and hate, he agrees with Madara and keeps his plans going after Madara's death. Shortly after, Tobi attacks Konoha after practiceing the Sharingan, Kamui, and Genjutsu. It was several years between the Shinobi world war and Obito's attack on the village.

As far as Zetsu brainwashing Obito? Nah. People are the most easily conned, lied to, and in this case, manipulated when angry, scared or the like. All these years are enough time for someone like Obito to turn evil. See what happened to Sasuke throughout his childhood. Obito probably went through the same.

[Supreme x Uchiha]

A flashback within a flashback? Inception 2

How stupid is it that Obitos body aged so rapidly? His hair grew out and he looked like Sasuke in a panel and like Madara in the other. Kishi is frantically trying to cover up his plotholes.

[Lizandro11]

I wonder why/how did obito help itachi during the uchiha massacre...did his hate towards Kakashi evolve to a hate towards his clan? Or was it all the same for him.

[Omnislash X SageMode]

seriously.....confusing, but still....i wish he would just leave the cave and reunite with kakashi and rin and not turn in to tobi...oh well

[UchihaKiller]

Chapter was slightly better than what we've seen in past couple of weeks... But that being said, what explanation is that people are finding so convincing? You didn't really think that it is never going to be explained, right?! Thing is what is the explanation for Obito turning into Tobi. The whole stuff with Madara being alive, Obito using space/time technique while he was a good for nothing brat a min ago etc seems like just cooked up and too naive to even look for logic and reasoning... I think it is unfair to expect a cartoonist to have IQ of a scientist!!

[girya]

Looks like a setup by Madara to pull Obito to the dark side. The ninjas that attacked kakashi and rin may just be setup. Madara unwilling to let obito out of the cave is being helped by zetsu who is under control of Madara(suspicious). Anyways lot of things make sense now.. i mean the height of Madara when Itachi meet him and the long hairs etc..

Anyways just thinking that Madara is more realistic in his objective to gain peace than Naruto :D
I am planning to change sides!!

[Saiyansnake]

I bet Madara had something to do with Rin's death. That way Obito would follow his plan with the hope of bringing Rin back from the dead. I wouldn't be surprised if Obito found out that Madara helped to cause her death and then turn on Madara.

[Supreme x Uchiha]

WAIT! :o If Obito cant move through the earth like Zetsu can because only 1/2 his body is Zetsu, why does he do it multiple times when fighting Fu and Torune? -_-
Was it because he had fused with spiral Zetsu? I thought that was just the reason for his mask.

[Ravone91]

I'm not confused or shocked it was exactly what I expected. It was quite obvious where it was going. You guys are trolling yourselves trying to control the story in stupid, half assed theories. They are supposed to be predictions and predictions are tested for trial and error. The scientific method. You all need to do more time observing and analyzing instead of coming up with your bogus conclusions.

Great chapter 5/5

LET THE STORY CONTINUE!!!