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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by bladechronicles94 View Post
    When the fourth mizukage was controlled, zabuza was still in ninja academy because during that time the mist village was called the blood mist village because of the fourth mizukage's actions while he was controlled. But the thing is, according to naruto databooks, zabuza and obito are of the same age.

    When the series began Zabuza was 26, the same age as Kakashi who was also the same age was Obito, but when Zabuza was in the ninja academy and killed all of his classmates he was 9 years old. So that should mean by that time Obito should have been nine years old, but he died when he was 13 years old so he couldn't have controlled the mizukage.

    So yeah something's kinda screwed up in the timeline. So maybe it was Madara who controlled the Mizukage because I read a theory in this site I think yesterday saying he may have controlled him by using a zetsu through the use of the tubes in his back or something like that.
    Your ages for Zabuza are incorrect, here's a link to my thread explaining why Zabuza is not that old, and also to answer your question of how Obito fits in the timeline. http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=248634
     
         
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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by lesley View Post
    who says naruto failed 3 times?
    Mizuki said so in chapter 1
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by lesley View Post
    who says naruto failed 3 times?
    he failed 3 times... but it could have been the same year tho.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by CDT23 View Post
    he failed 3 times... but it could have been the same year tho.
    exactly.
    and naruto mentioned it to neji as well.
    Naruto have been in classes with kiba, sasuke, sakura etc. and graduated in the same year as all of them.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    Databook:
    Kakashi:
    Acadamy grad age, 5.
    Chunin grad age, 6.

    Conclusion:
    So it was the follow up year.
    He wasnt a chunin yet, when he took the exam with obito and rin.
    He became one in that very exam, as seen in the manga.

    Obito:
    Grad age, 9.
    Rin:
    Grad age 9.

    They are older than kakashi.
    Oh, yeah, forgot about that, sorry.

    But still, Kakashi is the same-freaking-age as them!

    Kishimoto made a lot of mistakes in Chapter 599: "Obito Uchiha", it screwed up the Timeline. :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
    Oh, yeah, forgot about that, sorry.

    But still, Kakashi is the same-freaking-age as them!

    Kishimoto made a lot of mistakes in Chapter 599: "Obito Uchiha", it screwed up the Timeline. :shrug:
    I agree that he LOOKS like he has the same age. However he is younger.
    He should have been given a younger look i think.
    Maybe the mask just makes him look older and he might have been tall for his age .

    However, him being younger actually helps the timeline, because it works better if obito is older.
    Although spiral zetsu suit can give him an older look as well, so that issue is kinda out of the way anyway.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    I agree that he LOOKS like he has the same age. However he is younger.
    He should have been given a younger look i think.
    Maybe the mask just makes him look older and he might have been tall for his age .

    However, him being younger actually helps the timeline, because it works better if obito is older.
    Although spiral zetsu suit can give him an older look as well, so that issue is kinda out of the way anyway.
    Well, the only actual way to truly find out if they are on are not the same age is the Fourth Databook, if it will ever come out. :y :D
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
    Oh, yeah, forgot about that, sorry.

    But still, Kakashi is the same-freaking-age as them!

    Kishimoto made a lot of mistakes in Chapter 599: "Obito Uchiha", it screwed up the Timeline. :shrug:
    No. It was one of the best chapters I seen from Kishi lately. It did the exact opposite as you said. It FIXED the timeline on many occasions regarding Obito.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    I agree that he LOOKS like he has the same age. However he is younger.
    He should have been given a younger look i think.
    Maybe the mask just makes him look older and he might have been tall for his age .

    However, him being younger actually helps the timeline, because it works better if obito is older.
    Although spiral zetsu suit can give him an older look as well, so that issue is kinda out of the way anyway.
    Obito was crushed by a rock aged 13 and Kakashi became Jonin aged 13 (during Kakashi Gaiden). They are the same age.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    No. It was one of the best chapters I seen from Kishi lately. It did the exact opposite as you said. It FIXED the timeline on many occasions regarding Obito.
    Then explain Minato's face on the Hokage Mountain!
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    ahh another plot hole f**k know i need to know how
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
    Then explain Minato's face on the Hokage Mountain!
    That was no mistake. It just proved to us when Minato was made the 4th Hokage. And it makes so much sense, since we were never told, when he was made the next hokage, but now it all adds up. Most suggested it was a mistake, I thought so too, because I was a bit enraged with the manga at the time, but after rereading the chapter more times it all started to make sense.

    That chapter alone proved:
    Obitos age
    When Minato became hokage
    When Yagura was controlled by Obito/Madara
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak View Post
    Obito was crushed by a rock aged 13 and Kakashi became Jonin aged 13 (during Kakashi Gaiden). They are the same age.
    The Databook doesnt agree with you and the manga doesnt either.

    The Wiki changes constantly and has wrong information from time to time.
    They dont even agree on kakashi his jounin grad age, which you can read on the site itself (discussions between authors parts).

    Itachi has been an evil mastermind for example (turned out to be not true and was changed).
    Madara was tobi (not true either and was changed as well).
    More stuff like that, including kakashi his jounin grad age, which will get changed some time as well i predict.
     
         
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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    That was no mistake. It just proved to us when Minato was made the 4th Hokage. And it makes so much sense, since we were never told, when he was made the next hokage, but now it all adds up. Most suggested it was a mistake, I thought so too, because I was a bit enraged with the manga at the time, but after rereading the chapter more times it all started to make sense.

    That chapter alone proved:
    Obitos age
    When Minato became hokage
    When Yagura was controlled by Obito/Madara

    Then, oh wise one, please explain to me why is Minato's face missing here?! (at the time when Team Minato goes on a mission to destroy the bridge)


     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post

    Then, oh wise one, please explain to me why is Minato's face missing here?! (at the time when Team Minato goes on a mission to destroy the bridge)


    I do know about this picture, and it is shown everytime, and it was also the reason I doubted. But we have to take information from latest chapters more seriously. I mean Hashirama wasn't strong in his edo state, but now he is being refered to as a God, but that is a mistake from Kishi too?

    Kishi can easy explain the picture you show me. First of all it is just a cover for a chapter, and even though the text kind of says it, it could still be argued that it was older. Picture and text doesn't always fit, but Minato was already hokage, or at least he was about to become hokage, as we are also shown him and the 3rd watching the students, since it is them who decides who will become chunin, etc.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    i think kisame's age is same or near to kakashi's age.
    so it kinda makes sense to me.

    About zabuza,
    idk :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frikid View Post
    i think kisame's age is same or near to kakashi's age.
    so it kinda makes sense to me.

    About zabuza,
    idk :shrug:
    Zabuza and Kisame were same age.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    The Databook doesnt agree with you and the manga doesnt either.

    The Wiki changes constantly and has wrong information from time to time.
    They dont even agree on kakashi his jounin grad age, which you can read on the site itself (discussions between authors parts).

    Itachi has been an evil mastermind for example (turned out to be not true and was changed).
    Madara was tobi (not true either and was changed as well).
    More stuff like that, including kakashi his jounin grad age, which will get changed some time as well i predict.
    Im not talking about Naruto.Wiki. The Databook agrees with me:

    The databook says Obito was aged 13:
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak View Post
    Im not talking about Naruto.Wiki. The Databook agrees with me:

    The databook says Obito was aged 13:
    and where is kakashi jounin age?
    Obito age 13, still doesnt say that kakashi is the same age.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    and where is kakashi jounin age?
    Obito age 13, still doesnt say that kakashi is the same age.
    I am pretty sure it said he was 13... ill check.

    Anyway, I can calculate him to be 13.

    Itachi was 21 during part 2 (databook fact).
    Kyuubi attack happened 16 years ago (manga and databook fact).
    21-16 = 5 (fact) putting Itachi at 5 years old during Kyuubi attack.
    Itachi was 4 during the 3rd shinobi war (manga fact)
    Meaning Kakashi Gaiden happened a year prior.

    Kakashi is currently aged 30 (databook fact)
    30-16 puts him at age 14 during the Kyuubi attack (fact)
    a year prior puts him at 13 during Kakashi gaiden.

    Anyway, ill try and look for the page aswell.
     
         
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