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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
    Oh, yeah, forgot about that, sorry.

    But still, Kakashi is the same-freaking-age as them!

    Kishimoto made a lot of mistakes in Chapter 599: "Obito Uchiha", it screwed up the Timeline. :shrug:
    I agree that he LOOKS like he has the same age. However he is younger.
    He should have been given a younger look i think.
    Maybe the mask just makes him look older and he might have been tall for his age .

    However, him being younger actually helps the timeline, because it works better if obito is older.
    Although spiral zetsu suit can give him an older look as well, so that issue is kinda out of the way anyway.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    I agree that he LOOKS like he has the same age. However he is younger.
    He should have been given a younger look i think.
    Maybe the mask just makes him look older and he might have been tall for his age .

    However, him being younger actually helps the timeline, because it works better if obito is older.
    Although spiral zetsu suit can give him an older look as well, so that issue is kinda out of the way anyway.
    Well, the only actual way to truly find out if they are on are not the same age is the Fourth Databook, if it will ever come out. :y :D
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
    Oh, yeah, forgot about that, sorry.

    But still, Kakashi is the same-freaking-age as them!

    Kishimoto made a lot of mistakes in Chapter 599: "Obito Uchiha", it screwed up the Timeline. :shrug:
    No. It was one of the best chapters I seen from Kishi lately. It did the exact opposite as you said. It FIXED the timeline on many occasions regarding Obito.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    I agree that he LOOKS like he has the same age. However he is younger.
    He should have been given a younger look i think.
    Maybe the mask just makes him look older and he might have been tall for his age .

    However, him being younger actually helps the timeline, because it works better if obito is older.
    Although spiral zetsu suit can give him an older look as well, so that issue is kinda out of the way anyway.
    Obito was crushed by a rock aged 13 and Kakashi became Jonin aged 13 (during Kakashi Gaiden). They are the same age.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    No. It was one of the best chapters I seen from Kishi lately. It did the exact opposite as you said. It FIXED the timeline on many occasions regarding Obito.
    Then explain Minato's face on the Hokage Mountain!
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    ahh another plot hole f**k know i need to know how
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
    Then explain Minato's face on the Hokage Mountain!
    That was no mistake. It just proved to us when Minato was made the 4th Hokage. And it makes so much sense, since we were never told, when he was made the next hokage, but now it all adds up. Most suggested it was a mistake, I thought so too, because I was a bit enraged with the manga at the time, but after rereading the chapter more times it all started to make sense.

    That chapter alone proved:
    Obitos age
    When Minato became hokage
    When Yagura was controlled by Obito/Madara
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak View Post
    Obito was crushed by a rock aged 13 and Kakashi became Jonin aged 13 (during Kakashi Gaiden). They are the same age.
    The Databook doesnt agree with you and the manga doesnt either.

    The Wiki changes constantly and has wrong information from time to time.
    They dont even agree on kakashi his jounin grad age, which you can read on the site itself (discussions between authors parts).

    Itachi has been an evil mastermind for example (turned out to be not true and was changed).
    Madara was tobi (not true either and was changed as well).
    More stuff like that, including kakashi his jounin grad age, which will get changed some time as well i predict.
     
         
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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    That was no mistake. It just proved to us when Minato was made the 4th Hokage. And it makes so much sense, since we were never told, when he was made the next hokage, but now it all adds up. Most suggested it was a mistake, I thought so too, because I was a bit enraged with the manga at the time, but after rereading the chapter more times it all started to make sense.

    That chapter alone proved:
    Obitos age
    When Minato became hokage
    When Yagura was controlled by Obito/Madara

    Then, oh wise one, please explain to me why is Minato's face missing here?! (at the time when Team Minato goes on a mission to destroy the bridge)


     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post

    Then, oh wise one, please explain to me why is Minato's face missing here?! (at the time when Team Minato goes on a mission to destroy the bridge)


    I do know about this picture, and it is shown everytime, and it was also the reason I doubted. But we have to take information from latest chapters more seriously. I mean Hashirama wasn't strong in his edo state, but now he is being refered to as a God, but that is a mistake from Kishi too?

    Kishi can easy explain the picture you show me. First of all it is just a cover for a chapter, and even though the text kind of says it, it could still be argued that it was older. Picture and text doesn't always fit, but Minato was already hokage, or at least he was about to become hokage, as we are also shown him and the 3rd watching the students, since it is them who decides who will become chunin, etc.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    i think kisame's age is same or near to kakashi's age.
    so it kinda makes sense to me.

    About zabuza,
    idk :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frikid View Post
    i think kisame's age is same or near to kakashi's age.
    so it kinda makes sense to me.

    About zabuza,
    idk :shrug:
    Zabuza and Kisame were same age.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    The Databook doesnt agree with you and the manga doesnt either.

    The Wiki changes constantly and has wrong information from time to time.
    They dont even agree on kakashi his jounin grad age, which you can read on the site itself (discussions between authors parts).

    Itachi has been an evil mastermind for example (turned out to be not true and was changed).
    Madara was tobi (not true either and was changed as well).
    More stuff like that, including kakashi his jounin grad age, which will get changed some time as well i predict.
    Im not talking about Naruto.Wiki. The Databook agrees with me:

    The databook says Obito was aged 13:
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak View Post
    Im not talking about Naruto.Wiki. The Databook agrees with me:

    The databook says Obito was aged 13:
    and where is kakashi jounin age?
    Obito age 13, still doesnt say that kakashi is the same age.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    and where is kakashi jounin age?
    Obito age 13, still doesnt say that kakashi is the same age.
    I am pretty sure it said he was 13... ill check.

    Anyway, I can calculate him to be 13.

    Itachi was 21 during part 2 (databook fact).
    Kyuubi attack happened 16 years ago (manga and databook fact).
    21-16 = 5 (fact) putting Itachi at 5 years old during Kyuubi attack.
    Itachi was 4 during the 3rd shinobi war (manga fact)
    Meaning Kakashi Gaiden happened a year prior.

    Kakashi is currently aged 30 (databook fact)
    30-16 puts him at age 14 during the Kyuubi attack (fact)
    a year prior puts him at 13 during Kakashi gaiden.

    Anyway, ill try and look for the page aswell.
     
         
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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Kakashi Only Graduated Before Them!
    this^

    They started the same Year, but they finished later~ We cant fully trust the Databooks, cuz they change, maybe Kishi will make a 4th one, where its made up correctly~
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak View Post
    I am pretty sure it said he was 13... ill check.

    Anyway, I can calculate him to be 13.

    Itachi was 21 during part 2 (databook fact).
    Kyuubi attack happened 16 years ago (manga and databook fact).
    21-16 = 5 (fact) putting Itachi at 5 years old during Kyuubi attack.
    Itachi was 4 during the 3rd shinobi war (manga fact)
    Meaning Kakashi Gaiden happened a year prior.

    Kakashi is currently aged 30 (databook fact)
    30-16 puts him at age 14 during the Kyuubi attack (fact)
    a year prior puts him at 13 during Kakashi gaiden.

    Anyway, ill try and look for the page aswell.
    If the 3rd shinobi world war lasted a few years, than itachi can still be 4 in the war(but 3, 2 etc as well).
    Allowing kakashi to be ~9-10 as jounin grad age.

    If a (manga/databook)page with kakashi jounin grad age 13 exists, than there is an error somewhere, either in the manga or the databook.
     
         
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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Seems likely at this point
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    If the 3rd shinobi world war lasted a few years, than itachi can still be 4 in the war(but 3, 2 etc as well).
    Allowing kakashi to be ~9-10 as jounin grad age.

    If a (manga/databook)page with kakashi jounin grad age 13 exists, than there is an error somewhere, either in the manga or the databook.
    Yeh thats true.
    I cant find anything in the manga, so I guess there is a chance he was younger (unless it is in the databook). I could have sworn I had seen it somewhere but I could be wrong.
     
         
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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Oh so Kisame can ****ing time travel now right? Kisame is 32 years old. He looked in his early twenties when he met the masked man. Please quit over thinking it. Also, it would make perfect sense for it to be Obito. We can predict that Mist ninjas killed Rin. Thus, Obito got mad and took out his anger on the mist village. Very much how Nagato killed everyone even slightly affiliated with Hanzo.
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Don't know..

    Kyuubi attack happened before or after Yagura ? Because if before makes no sense, Obito already has long hair prior to Rin dieing, but has short hair when fighting Minato

    Has long hair when controllling Yagura, talking to Itachi..

    If Obito's hair is long prior to Rin's death..then Yagura/Itachi is after Kyuubi attack but Kyuubi attack Tobi has short hair but Obito before Rin dieing has long hair

    Unless Zetsu Spiral made his hair short for Kyuubi attack becasue it should be like..

    Rin dies(long hair)

    Obito mad, uses Kyuubi to attack Leaf and specifically Minato for not saving Rin(short hair)

    Rin died to Mists ninja, he takes over Mists to get revenge (long hair)

    Itachi (long hair)

    then we know nothing til he appears as "Tobi" in Akatsuki (short hair)
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSlick View Post
    Oh so Kisame can ****ing time travel now right? Kisame is 32 years old. He looked in his early twenties when he met the masked man. Please quit over thinking it. Also, it would make perfect sense for it to be Obito. We can predict that Mist ninjas killed Rin. Thus, Obito got mad and took out his anger on the mist village. Very much how Nagato killed everyone even slightly affiliated with Hanzo.
    Seems I must repost, my post yet again.....

    Quote Originally Posted by bladechronicles94 View Post
    When the fourth mizukage was controlled, zabuza was still in ninja academy because during that time the mist village was called the blood mist village because of the fourth mizukage's actions while he was controlled. But the thing is, according to naruto databooks, zabuza and obito are of the same age.
    This is wrong. The 4th mizukage isn't that old. I can prove it, so it is 100 % sure....

    Here you see Kisames memory of a mission he did for Fugaki, the fat guy of 7 swordsmen. "Yagura" controlled by Obito, some years later made Kisame kill Fugaki. Notice that Ibiki approaches Kisame in this picture:


    Now see this chapter from the chunin exam, which Obito took part in:


    It clearly proves Ibiki was also in the chunin exams at this time. From these 2 informations we can make a very qualified guess, that this scene:


    Must be about the same year as the Uchiha massacre, since Kisame most likely joined Akatsuki a bit after Itachi, given from the scene, where he talks to Itachi about sharks (wont look for it..)

    And to add another proof. The man Itachi approached to help him out with the Uchiha massacre had the exact same spiky hair, as the shadow we see behind Yagura.

    You still think it's time travel, or you just can't read the manga?
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rot View Post
    Don't know..

    Kyuubi attack happened before or after Yagura ? Because if before makes no sense, Obito already has long hair prior to Rin dieing, but has short hair when fighting Minato

    Has long hair when controllling Yagura, talking to Itachi..

    If Obito's hair is long prior to Rin's death..then Yagura/Itachi is after Kyuubi attack but Kyuubi attack Tobi has short hair but Obito before Rin dieing has long hair

    Unless Zetsu Spiral made his hair short for Kyuubi attack becasue it should be like..

    Rin dies(long hair)

    Obito mad, uses Kyuubi to attack Leaf and specifically Minato for not saving Rin(short hair)

    Rin died to Mists ninja, he takes over Mists to get revenge (long hair)

    Itachi (long hair)

    then we know nothing til he appears as "Tobi" in Akatsuki (short hair)
    I will say this. He cuts his hair soon enough, Kishi might even show that. The reason Kishi showed his long hair, is to show us how fast it grows, probably due to Hashirama cells..

    Read my above post, it makes it 100 % that Yagura was after kuybi attack
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
    Oh, yeah, forgot about that, sorry.

    But still, Kakashi is the same-freaking-age as them!

    Kishimoto made a lot of mistakes in Chapter 599: "Obito Uchiha", it screwed up the Timeline. :shrug:
    If they were the same age and kakashi graduated at age 5 then he would have been put in a different team of 3 upon graduation. What did he do, wait four years doing absolutely nothing?
     
         

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    Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    Kakashi is much younger than rin and obito.
    Making obito older than zabuza.
    can some1 just report this post as abuse lol.

    i found it abusive.
     
         

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