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    Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Kishimoto has done a excellent job in the series.. BUT the thing where he has ****ed up/screwed up is.. Genjutsu. Let me explain for example, we tsukuyomi a genjutsu that can only be broken by another Uchiha or a Jinchuriki. Basically what that means is everyone else besides the Uchiha or the Jinchuriki... is screwed. So with taking that into consideration when Kishimoto alludes to the Senju as the strongest clan.. its a fail why? Because Uchiha has tsukuyomi. Now this has allowed me to change my mind on the whole Naruto series and I now declare the Uchiha as the Strongest Clan to exist in this series.

    He has made moves that have 10-0% counters.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    no...senju in general are still stronger IMO....
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiTsukuAmatsukami View Post
    no...senju in general are still stronger IMO....
    Awesome avatar ItachiTsukuAmatsukami! Very nice
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Kishimoto has done a excellent job in the series.. BUT the thing where he has ****ed up/screwed up is.. Genjutsu. Let me explain for example, we tsukuyomi a genjutsu that can only be broken by another Uchiha or a Jinchuriki. Basically what that means is everyone else besides the Uchiha or the Jinchuriki... is screwed. So with taking that into consideration when Kishimoto alludes to the Senju as the strongest clan.. its a fail why? Because Uchiha has tsukuyomi. Now this has allowed me to change my mind on the whole Naruto series and I now declare the Uchiha as the Strongest Clan to exist in this series.

    He has made moves that have 10-0% counters.
    You failed, big time.

    Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

    And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas and Sharingan users who are Uchihas.

    And then to go on to say the Uchiha > Senju based on one Jutsu which can be avoided by simply looking down is extremely shallow.

    You are the great fail here, not Kishimoto.

    And then people ask me why I don't post in the Naruto Discussion that much. Because it's full of people who make shitty threads such as these. >_>
     
         
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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    You failed, big time.

    Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

    And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable.

    You are the great fail, not Kishimoto.
    What he said ^.

    Though, We don't know if Sasuke has it
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by kevenc View Post
    What he said ^.

    Though, We don't know if Sasuke has it
    Sasuke has Tsukuyomi. Without it then how did Sasuke obtain Susanoo
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by kevenc View Post
    What he said ^.

    Though, We don't know if Sasuke has it
    Sasuke was using it on Danzou... Danzou even commented about it saying how inferior his was compared to Itachi due to the fact that Itachi can affect the body's perception of time while Sasuke's could not...

    Also Susano'o requires both Ameterasu and Tsukoyomi to be activated. Ameterasu forms the physical matter for the body while Tsukoyomi shapes the body and brings it to life.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Sasuke View Post
    SO, then... how does Sasuke have Susanoo?
    You dont have to have tsukuyomi to have susanoo every mangyeko sharingan have different moves sasukes two moves are amatarsu and flame control One eye has amatarasu and the other eye can control it ( this is why sasuke is better with amatarasu then Itachi was )
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    You failed, big time.

    Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

    And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable.

    You are the great fail, not Kishimoto.
    We still don't know the number of people who have MS . And if you take the known MS users it is 5..

    And name someone who can break out of tsukuyomi? that is not a Jin or Uchiha. Please o please name someone.
    Only people who have a proper chance against Itachi are Jins or Another Uchiha. So you my friend fail in saying that I fail
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    We still don't know the number of people who have MS . And if you take the known MS users it is 5..

    And name someone who can break out of tsukuyomi? that is not a Jin or Uchiha. Please o please name someone.
    Only people who have a proper chance against Itachi are Jins or Another Uchiha. So you my friend fail in saying that I fail
    That old puppet woman fought a Uchiha before and knows how to snap out of it and counter it, so yeah.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SCARFEEST View Post
    That old puppet woman fought a Uchiha before and knows how to snap out of it and counter it, so yeah.
    Actually she only knew how to counter regular genjutsu, not tsukuyomi. Chiyo wasn't even aware of the technique until kakashi told her.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    We still don't know the number of people who have MS . And if you take the known MS users it is 5..

    And name someone who can break out of tsukuyomi? that is not a Jin or Uchiha. Please o please name someone.
    Only people who have a proper chance against Itachi are Jins or Another Uchiha. So you my friend fail in saying that I fail
    Shisui has KA in both eyes. We don't know about Izuna.

    Someone who can break out of Tsukuyomi? Anyone, provided it's not Itachi's Tsukuyomi. 90% of members here on NB still don't understand that ONLY Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas with the Sharingan. Sasuke's can be broken, Madara's too, unless said otherwise.

    I fail? Think again.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

    And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    Shisui has KA in both eyes. We don't know about Izuna.

    Someone who can break out of Tsukuyomi? Anyone, provided it's not Itachi's Tsukuyomi. 90% of members here on NB still don't understand that ONLY Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas with the Sharingan. Sasuke's can be broken, Madara's too, unless said otherwise.

    I fail? Think again.
    ~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.
     
         
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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    ~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.
    You're still not listening. I just told you only Itachi's Tsukuyomi cannot be broken, the rest can. Why don't you listen instead of proceeding to spout more bullshit?
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

    And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.




    ~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.
    Didn't Danzo break sasuke's Tsukyomi?
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.
    Likewise dude. Not every uchiha is as great with tsukuyomi like that of itachi's.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

    And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.



    ~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.
    Danzo breaks sauskes tsukuyomi.... That good enough of a counter? Even with the sharingan he is not an uchia so i mean can't use that as an excuse.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

    And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.



    ~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.
    dude....are you retarded? not every uchiha has Tsukuyomi, only Itachi and Sasuke. Not even Madara has it btw for all the people who think he does. and pretty much anyone can break from Tsukuyomi as long as their chakra is disturbed but idk if Itachi's is unbreakable. There is your answer for this thread.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

    And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.



    ~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.
    Not everyone is as strong as Sasuke Itachi and Madara... And I think we can all agree that Madara is the strongest but still got beat by a Senju..
    Fail thread. Makes no sense
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    We still don't know the number of people who have MS . And if you take the known MS users it is 5..

    And name someone who can break out of tsukuyomi? that is not a Jin or Uchiha. Please o please name someone.
    Only people who have a proper chance against Itachi are Jins or Another Uchiha. So you my friend fail in saying that I fail
    Madara and Izuna
    Obito and Shisui
    Itachi and Sasuke.
    1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6!
     
         

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