Kishimoto the Great fails.....

[Ly1e]

A Fail: "Every justu has a weakness." What about Rinne Tensei?

There's a duration limit upon who you can revive depending on chakra levels/in general. Probably requires focus. Reviving a large amount of people consumes a massive amount of Chakra (Nagato had an impressive storage of chakra).

[Xaviour]

Only Itachi & Sasuke have Tsukuyomi. Not all Uchiha.

Edit: not even sure if Sasuke has Tsukuyomi or if you could call it that (refer to Danzou fight)

[KidGamer65]

It's pretty retarded to say Senju > Uchiha just because Itachi's Tsukuyomi can't be countered by them, they can simply avoid it.

Hashirama for example has many long range attacks: Mokuton.

[nNoma]

You failed, big time.

Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas and Sharingan users who are Uchihas.

And then to go on to say the Uchiha > Senju based on one Jutsu which can be avoided by simply looking down is extremely shallow.

You are the great fail here, not Kishimoto.

And then people ask me why I don't post in the Naruto Discussion that much. Because it's full of people who make shitty threads such as these. >_>

Truer words have never been spoken.

[ShinraRengan]

Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.




~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.

Didn't Danzo break sasuke's Tsukyomi?

[robert31393]

Kishimoto has done a excellent job in the series.. BUT the thing where he has ****ed up/screwed up is.. Genjutsu. Let me explain for example, we tsukuyomi a genjutsu that can only be broken by another Uchiha or a Jinchuriki. Basically what that means is everyone else besides the Uchiha or the Jinchuriki... is screwed. So with taking that into consideration when Kishimoto alludes to the Senju as the strongest clan.. its a fail why? Because Uchiha has tsukuyomi. Now this has allowed me to change my mind on the whole Naruto series and I now declare the Uchiha as the Strongest Clan to exist in this series.

He has made moves that have 10-0% counters.

bro you cant just determine who is stronger by just one jutsu. that is ignorant. you also have to take fighting abilities and intelligence into consideration. like what tobi said in the manga, they are an equal rivalry. besides if they werent equal then one of the clans would have been terminated by the other clan when their rivalry first started.

[SuperFlyzzED]

The biggest fail was this thread. I will make a better one for you.

[lol99]

Laughable. Kamui is lethal if the foe is initially caught. As is Jinton (unless you're a S/T user). You single out Tsukuyomi for being OP once the opponent is caught yet you seem to fail to realise that this is true for a ridiculous amount of jutsu, including some possessed by the Senju Clan; all these things must be avoided, not directly countered in most cases. Believing Kishimoto has unbalanced the story and that this one technique separates the two clans shows a clear lacking of thinking skills.

lol this ^

OP fails when trying to prove kishi fails

[Umari Senju]

kakashi vs itachi round 2

itachi caught Kakashi's clone in Tsukiyomi and hid in the ground thus negating it all together. kakashi may have a sharingan, but he is neither uchiha or a Jin.

of course Nagato had a large chakra reserve...he was an Uzimaki.

[Kira Vs L]

Sigh we have only seen one person ever use it and that's itachi, last we seen sasuke use a genjustu it said genjustu sharingan not tsukiyomi like it said for itachi. We all know that sasuke's genjustu eye comes no where near the level that itachi was at. And we have yet to see madara do tsukiyomi either, we have seen him use a genjustu from his eye against the raikage and the raikage was released from it and was completely fine. So until we see anyone but itachi clearly state that they have tsukiyomi I'm assuming they don't have it. I suggest doing some research before posting theards.

[ulqui0rra]

You failed, big time.

Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas and Sharingan users who are Uchihas.

And then to go on to say the Uchiha > Senju based on one Jutsu which can be avoided by simply looking down is extremely shallow.

You are the great fail here, not Kishimoto.

And then people ask me why I don't post in the Naruto Discussion that much. Because it's full of people who make shitty threads such as these. >_>

only hashi had wood release .
with all that strong jutsu like fire release , izanagi , kamui .
uchiha must be pus*y to bow down to senju

[gameove]

3/4 of u fail because only itachi as it . and dont say sasuke have it, cause he never said it. all he say is genjusto

[Funny]

What he said ^.

Though, We don't know if Sasuke has it

Sasuke has Tsukuyomi. Without it then how did Sasuke obtain Susanoo

[ziggyZ]

I accept your opinion and say you may be correct.

[Kurama2012]

1st of all tsyukiomi takes time to prepare also it is a short ranged jutsu and you need direct eye contact
also i bet the 1st hokage can deal with tsyukiomi with no probs

[ahhimane]

Kishimoto has done a excellent job in the series.. BUT the thing where he has ****ed up/screwed up is.. Genjutsu. Let me explain for example, we tsukuyomi a genjutsu that can only be broken by another Uchiha or a Jinchuriki. Basically what that means is everyone else besides the Uchiha or the Jinchuriki... is screwed. So with taking that into consideration when Kishimoto alludes to the Senju as the strongest clan.. its a fail why? Because Uchiha has tsukuyomi. Now this has allowed me to change my mind on the whole Naruto series and I now declare the Uchiha as the Strongest Clan to exist in this series.

He has made moves that have 10-0% counters.

dude only Sasuke broke through Tsukuyomi. Actually not him but the snake which came out of his back did that. The snake's hissing broke through Tsukuyomi.
By the way Uchiha will always remain the second because there no disadvantages of Senju powers whereas Uchiha has lot of disadvantages over the use of their ocular powers. They will be at advantage only after getting Senju DNA into them.

[Simple Math]

only 2-3 people can use the tsukoyomi

[Jonesy161]

What he said ^.

Though, We don't know if Sasuke has it

Sasuke was using it on Danzou... Danzou even commented about it saying how inferior his was compared to Itachi due to the fact that Itachi can affect the body's perception of time while Sasuke's could not...

Also Susano'o requires both Ameterasu and Tsukoyomi to be activated. Ameterasu forms the physical matter for the body while Tsukoyomi shapes the body and brings it to life.

[Gorlack2231]

Couldn't Jiraiya with Ma and Pa break it? Along with Naruto)duh_ and Kabuto? Because though it does last only seconds, those moments of no movement would be absorbing Chakra...

[uchihamad]

I know tusukyomi is strong but uchiha too have weakness.They don't posess high ckakra capacity like senju and uzumaki.

[ajbum88]

And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.

Likewise dude. Not every uchiha is as great with tsukuyomi like that of itachi's.

[AngryRock]

Only Itachi's Tsukuyomi works like that.

[realobito1]

You failed, big time.

Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas and Sharingan users who are Uchihas.

And then to go on to say the Uchiha > Senju based on one Jutsu which can be avoided by simply looking down is extremely shallow.

You are the great fail here, not Kishimoto.

And then people ask me why I don't post in the Naruto Discussion that much. Because it's full of people who make shitty threads such as these. >_>

I like with this guy say so often I rarely have to read to agree. ANyway I agree

[Darkdeeds]

Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.



~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.

Danzo breaks sauskes tsukuyomi.... That good enough of a counter? Even with the sharingan he is not an uchia so i mean can't use that as an excuse.

[Soroku]

Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.



~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.

dude....are you retarded? not every uchiha has Tsukuyomi, only Itachi and Sasuke. Not even Madara has it btw for all the people who think he does. and pretty much anyone can break from Tsukuyomi as long as their chakra is disturbed but idk if Itachi's is unbreakable. There is your answer for this thread.