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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by syris View Post
    anybody that says sasuke hasnt use tsukiyomi should go and reread the manga i clearly remember sasuke using tsukiyomi in his fight against deidra and danzo. his isnt as strong as itachis but he still has it and has used it.
    Against Deidara? Okay buddy...just be yourself! Good for you!
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    If someone touches you it disrupt the Genjutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    You failed, big time.

    Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

    And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas and Sharingan users who are Uchihas.

    And then to go on to say the Uchiha > Senju based on one Jutsu which can be avoided by simply looking down is extremely shallow.

    You are the great fail here, not Kishimoto.

    And then people ask me why I don't post in the Naruto Discussion that much. Because it's full of people who make shitty threads such as these. >_>
    i completely agree with you Logic..... these noobs should think before they make such threads...
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    Kishimoto has never failed and never will. Everything up to this point is nothing short of amazing! If academy awards were given out for mangas and animes, Kishimoto would win several! Best story, Best main character, Best villain, Best dialogue....etc etc etc.....

    This is a forum to express love, not hate, for the manga! So GTFO!
    Don't get over your head I think Naruto is number 2 in Japan currently (according to number of sold copies), but One Piece is number by far, and has most likely sold a lot more than twice that of Naruto. Not saying Naruto isn't good, but it has dropped a lot in quality and thereby sold copies, where One Piece just keep selling due to the quality has risen more than it has fallen. Still Naruto could get many 2. places.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    king hashirama i agree with you and tsukyomi is possessed by all with ms beside tobi i believe, for susanoo you need tsukyomi...
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    Don't get over your head I think Naruto is number 2 in Japan currently (according to number of sold copies), but One Piece is number by far, and has most likely sold a lot more than twice that of Naruto. Not saying Naruto isn't good, but it has dropped a lot in quality and thereby sold copies, where One Piece just keep selling due to the quality has risen more than it has fallen. Still Naruto could get many 2. places.
    Not in my heart! See I am not just an anime fanatic like most people assume. I subscribe to something with a little more depth!
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    Not in my heart! See I am not just an anime fanatic like most people assume. I subscribe to something with a little more depth!
    Well that is good to hear So am I, I just love One Piece more ^^ Btw I found some numbers here, which does speak pretty well for Naruto too
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    there are a lot of ways around even itachi's tsukuyomi... kagebunshin, hidden mist, hiding like a mole technique, incredible will, not looking in itachi's eyes, great speed or teleporting etc
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Hey, I'm new here but I am sorry but there are eight known MS users, Kakashi, Obito, Madara, Izuna, Itachi, Sasuke, Danzo and Shisui (whether or not stolen) and since Kakashi and Obito share the same MS as each other both of which contain S/T techniques, Sasuke never shown to use Tsukuyomi and the rest are dead I think its fair to say that Kishi has not failed whatsoever, only Itachi ever showed a great deal of talent in accordance to Tsukuyomi and anyone can break out of Tsukuyomi, a Jin can only do so due to the partner with CHAKRA may I add and Uchiha as they share the same bloodline and the eyes help too, bloodline really doesn't help that much. All a shinobi would need is a partner to release them.

    Thanks for reading I hope to add more of my contribution in the future
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DoomTater View Post
    Why do you hate it when it's a fact? Sasuke has used it against Danzo AND Killer Bee. In order to unlock the Susanoo, you must have unlocked the ability to use the Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. Guess who has the Susanoo? If you picked Sasuke and Madara, you won! Congratulations! :D
    Honestly, Sasuke does not have Tsukuyomi neither does Madara. You only have to unlock two MS abilities. Sasuke has Amaterasu and Enton Kagutsuchi, Itachi has Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi and Madara's MS abilities have yet to be revealed. Sasuke has never once used Tsukuyomi, you know why because he does not have it. If you guys bring in the Bee fight manga picture, he never said Tsukuyomi. The manga translations really cant be resourceful because so many say different things. I think the anime clears it up, when he used genjutsu on Danzo, Danzo said i commend you for capturing me in a GENJUTSU, however yours is a far cry from Itachi's Tsukuyomi. I really do not know why you guys are so bent on the "you gotta have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to awaken Susanoo". Madara and Sasuke do not have Tsukuyomi!!!
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Yusuke Urameshi View Post
    A Fail: "Every justu has a weakness." What about Rinne Tensei?
    rinne tensei cant mass revive people who dided before a certain time limit and the user dies after using it
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Kishimoto has done a excellent job in the series.. BUT the thing where he has ****ed up/screwed up is.. Genjutsu. Let me explain for example, we tsukuyomi a genjutsu that can only be broken by another Uchiha or a Jinchuriki. Basically what that means is everyone else besides the Uchiha or the Jinchuriki... is screwed. So with taking that into consideration when Kishimoto alludes to the Senju as the strongest clan.. its a fail why? Because Uchiha has tsukuyomi. Now this has allowed me to change my mind on the whole Naruto series and I now declare the Uchiha as the Strongest Clan to exist in this series.

    He has made moves that have 10-0% counters.
    Hashirama senju handed out the 9 tailed beasts to the other countries to create balance meaning they were once all in the senju clans posession (who knows how many jinchuuriki they had in tht clan)

    the senju clan were known as the clan of a 1000 techniques that scroll naruto stole at the beginning of the series was hashiramas scroll filled with forbidden jutsus

    a simple shadow clone can create a diversion for tsukyomi

    just because naruto rinsed out the taju kage bunshin which makes thousands of clones doesnt mean other users wouldnt be profficient with it

    also the space time ninjutsu was apparently used by the 2nd aswell
    and the edo tensei
    2 techniques right off the bat which can counter tsukyomi

    also senjutsu which allows for greater sensory skills without the use of eyesight

    also in the manga the first used a genjutsu creating darkness who knows if tht level genjutsu would blind the sharingan im guessing it might create enough time for at least a diversion i mean he beat madara so by deducing the fact he was able to beat madara he should be able to beat itachi
     
         
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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    Well that is good to hear So am I, I just love One Piece more ^^ Btw I found some numbers here, which does speak pretty well for Naruto too
    i think naruto is a better franchise altogether judging by the amount of games they are releasing which would probably steal that number one spot in the overall bracket of successful manga/anime/business
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    IMO the strongest clan is Uchiha but Senju has huge amount of chakra but only a few of the are really strong.

    Not anyone is like Hashirama ofc but since every uchiha can spam their sharingan abilities they might be stronger as a clan.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Please go find someone who is not a Jin or a Uchiha ..... that can break Tsukuyomi

    Need a counter not a saying....



    You do know what a "shut down " is right?




    Please go find someone who is not a Jin or a Uchiha ..... that can break Tsukuyomi
    Danzo shimura broke it.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Biju Hunter View Post
    IMO the strongest clan is Uchiha but Senju has huge amount of chakra but only a few of the are really strong.

    Not anyone is like Hashirama ofc but since every uchiha can spam their sharingan abilities they might be stronger as a clan.
    Wrong not all uchihas had sharingan.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Wrong! You can either just not look into their eyes OR use a shadow clone to fool caster.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by The God View Post
    i think naruto is a better franchise altogether judging by the amount of games they are releasing which would probably steal that number one spot in the overall bracket of successful manga/anime/business
    No I'm almost sure One Piece sells more games as well, I also think they have sent more out. Don't get me wrong, in EU and the states Naruto is most likely number 1, though not to me, but it is Japan, a manga selling more than 40,000,000 copies in a single country will have many watchers of the anime as well, which leads to many games, I think they have versus, arcade, etc. many different kinds of games. In wiki I can count more than 30, lol, which is on different consoles as well though.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    No I'm almost sure One Piece sells more games as well, I also think they have sent more out. Don't get me wrong, in EU and the states Naruto is most likely number 1, though not to me, but it is Japan, a manga selling more than 40,000,000 copies in a single country will have many watchers of the anime as well, which leads to many games, I think they have versus, arcade, etc. many different kinds of games. In wiki I can count more than 30, lol, which is on different consoles as well though.
    Games : Naruto > Dbz and one piece . One piece games are quiet boring.

    And the one piece manga is more famous in japan that i must agree with.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SCARFEEST View Post
    That old puppet woman fought a Uchiha before and knows how to snap out of it and counter it, so yeah.
    Actually she only knew how to counter regular genjutsu, not tsukuyomi. Chiyo wasn't even aware of the technique until kakashi told her.
     
         

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