Naruto >>Madara (READ READ READ)

[beastlyray]

skill dont mean shit with naruto anyways he got heart and the will to never give up and in this series thats all that matters lol just get over it everyone and enjoy the magna plz and stop soundin like children even tho it is funny

[Lightning Release]

Seriously, why do people keep saying Edo-Madara? Does anyone read the OP or just see the title and post?

Besides, EMS Madara would NOT have wood release.
EMS Madara would NOT use a meteor tech of that scale.


And everyone always brings up PS, how the hell do we even know how long PS lasts? How much Chakra it uses? Seriously, gtfo.

BM Naruto > EMS Madara extremely extremely high difficulty. But it can go either way.

[Champ]

Rinnegan Madara

[~Sovereign~]

You're reasoning is very flawed, for instance where do get the 9-tails will tie against perfect susano? Madara tames tailed beasts like theyre nothing w/o susano lol... Madara's fan negates rasengan aswell so say goodbye to half of Naruto's arsenal

taijutsu>>>>fan

kurama/tbb>=perfect susano

you obviously didnt read OP

If u dont get the point u must be really dumb:
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...=1#post8626213

i hope you arent saying madara has izanagi...without proof

WTF r u guys retards! "NARUTO CAN NEVER BEAT MADARA ITS A COMMON FACT" even if madara didnt have rinnengen naruto would still loose get that in ur head u RETARDS!

how about you explain some facts then...bm naruto>current madara without edo

Seriously, why do people keep saying Edo-Madara? Does anyone read the OP or just see the title and post?

Besides, EMS Madara would NOT have wood release.
EMS Madara would NOT use a meteor tech of that scale.


And everyone always brings up PS, how the hell do we even know how long PS lasts? How much Chakra it uses? Seriously, gtfo.

BM Naruto > EMS Madara extremely extremely high difficulty. But it can go either way.

thanx but IM TALKING ABOUT CURRENT MADARA BUT WITHOUT EDO TENSAI helping him

YES people just read the title and post....you can tell because 95% of the people for mainly talking about EDO

and YES naruto>ems madara

Rinnegan Madara

BM naruto....

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

This is Naruto shippenden not Madara or Sasuke shippuunden so Naruto is stronger take it or leave it he's the reincarnation of SOSP.

Ummm this is more like Naruto and Sasuke shippenden seeing as how kishi stated they will be equal in the end.

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

taijutsu>>>>fan

kurama/tbb>=perfect susano

you obviously didnt read OP



i hope you arent saying madara has izanagi...without proof



how about you explain some facts then...bm naruto>current madara without edo



thanx but IM TALKING ABOUT CURRENT MADARA BUT WITHOUT EDO TENSAI helping him

YES people just read the title and post....you can tell because 95% of the people for mainly talking about EDO

and YES naruto>ems madara



BM naruto....

So with that logic

Bm Naruto >>>>>> Hashirama

okay ill call up kishi and tell him that you said EMS Madara and Hashirama are weaker then Naruto.
Hey, while we are changing kishi's story lets change his name from Naruto to Goku since he can Solo any and everybody shall we, hell lets allow him to jump universes, Go into DBZ, talk to the real Goku and Learn Spirit Bomb.

Okay, just give me like 20 mins while i call kishi okay!!!.

[~Sovereign~]

So with that logic

Bm Naruto >>>>>> Hashirama

okay ill call up kishi and tell him that you said EMS Madara and Hashirama are weaker then Naruto.
Hey, while we are changing kishi's story lets change his name from Naruto to Goku since he can Solo any and everybody shall we, hell lets allow him to jump universes, Go into DBZ, talk to the real Goku and Learn Spirit Bomb.

Okay, just give me like 20 mins while i call kishi okay!!!.

LMAO U mad?
IDC wat u do
BM naruto> current madara without Edo tensai helping him

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

LMAO U mad?
IDC wat u do
BM naruto> current madara without Edo tensai helping him

Im not mad, your thread is just B.S. Period.
But i will point out, i find it funny you don't deny you believe Naruto can take down Hashirama ( that is now i know you've lost it.)

[~Sovereign~]

Im not mad, your thread is just B.S. Period.
But i will point out, i find it funny you don't deny you believe Naruto can take down Hashirama ( that is now i know you've lost it.)

You are mad

1. This thread isnt about hashirama quit trying to change the subject

2. Like I said naruto>> current madara without Edo tensa

3. I find it funny u call the thread b.s YET U cant even EXPLAIN how madara wins

4. If u dont like this thread then y r u still here?????????

[Invincible]

Madara rapes naruto lol

[Onslaught]

Stop giving madara power he doesnt have. Madara doesnt have arrow and we are not sure if he has amaterasu or tsukoyomy or enton. Only Itachi has feat using tsukoyomy and only sasuke has feat using enton. The latest databook was release when only itachi has susano and for him to have susano he needed amaterasu and tsukoyomy. 1 out of 3 has feat using amaterasu and tsukoyomy and the susano so stop acting like the two power always come with susano. Right now we know about 3 forms of madara, 1. EMS madara(the one who fought hashirama), 2. rinnengan madara who is old and 3. current madara(edo madara) who has been upgraded by kabuto with ems-rinnengan-mokuton-infinit chakra-undying body.

In this thread its ems madara and from what we have seen of ems madara, BM naruto can beat him with high diff. But for the current madara I dont think naruto can win against him right now.

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

You are mad

1. This thread isnt about hashirama quit trying to change the subject

2. Like I said naruto>> current madara without Edo tensa

3. I find it funny u call the thread b.s YET U cant even EXPLAIN how madara wins

4. If u dont like this thread then y r u still here?????????

It's funny that you tell me about my own emotions, you might want to check yourself cause your going to come across the wrong person that way.

1. You don't deny it ( not surprised )
2. Till Kishi stated this, this thread is just a theory of yours
3. Im not going to explain something other people have already explained to you over and over again, you just a naruto fanboy ( Almost to the point of Lord sasuke fanboys)
4. I must admit this thread was interesting at first but got way out of hand, way too fast; also there is this thing called freedom. Yeah, i use it whenever i feel it necessary so

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Stop giving madara power he doesnt have. Madara doesnt have arrow and we are not sure if he has amaterasu or tsukoyomy or enton. Only Itachi has feat using tsukoyomy and only sasuke has feat using enton. The latest databook was release when only itachi has susano and for him to have susano he needed amaterasu and tsukoyomy. 1 out of 3 has feat using amaterasu and tsukoyomy and the susano so stop acting like the two power always come with susano. Right now we know about 3 forms of madara, 1. EMS madara(the one who fought hashirama), 2. rinnengan madara who is old and 3. current madara(edo madara) who has been upgraded by kabuto with ems-rinnengan-mokuton-infinit chakra-undying body.

In this thread its ems madara and from what we have seen of ems madara, BM naruto can beat him with high diff. But for the current madara I dont think naruto can win against him right now.

Dude calm down, it clearly states you need tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to unlock susano'o. So you might want to go back and look at the data book again. ( Also how would it look if Kishi showed every uchiha using the same Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, It would get boring and so would the Uchiha clan, so of course kishi won't show Madara using MS basics lol.)

[radize]

NaruTo is nOt yet in coMplete form ryt?

[karol the don]

madara beats him while he is asleep lmao.Madara got godlike techniques and naruto can only dream bout them homes

[~Sovereign~]

It's funny that you tell me about my own emotions, you might want to check yourself cause your going to come across the wrong person that way.

1. You don't deny it ( not surprised )
2. Till Kishi stated this, this thread is just a theory of yours
3. Im not going to explain something other people have already explained to you over and over again, you just a naruto fanboy ( Almost to the point of Lord sasuke fanboys)
4. I must admit this thread was interesting at first but got way out of hand, way too fast; also there is this thing called freedom. Yeah, i use it whenever i feel it necessary so

1. dont ASSUME

2. at least i backed up my theory/opinion....450 post and NOT ONE PERSON ACTUALLY EXPLAINED HOW MADARA WINS, and no one proved my counters wrong either

3. I PROVED THAT NARUTO HAD A COUNTER FOR EVERYTHING MADARA HAS (every link i posted was in the manga)...most people is this thread have NOO proof..people are just posting but cant back it up

im no where NEAR a naruto fanboy....i like naruto because he's the main character and all... but i only have 1 fav character and it's not naruto AT ALL

4. the thread started getting disrespectful people in it, some people started giving madara moves he doesnt have, MOST people cant explain HOW madara wins, AND there are people just posting completely irrelavent things

your right you do have freedom but if you dont like this thread why are you so concerned that you keep coming back?

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

1. dont ASSUME

2. at least i backed up my theory/opinion....450 post and NOT ONE PERSON ACTUALLY EXPLAINED HOW MADARA WINS, and no one proved my counters wrong either

3. I PROVED THAT NARUTO HAD A COUNTER FOR EVERYTHING MADARA HAS (every link i posted was in the manga)...most people is this thread have NOO proof..people are just posting but cant back it up

im no where NEAR a naruto fanboy....i like naruto because he's the main character and all... but i only have 1 fav character and it's not naruto AT ALL

4. the thread started getting disrespectful people in it, some people started giving madara moves he doesnt have, MOST people cant explain HOW madara wins, AND there are people just posting completely irrelavent things

your right you do have freedom but if you dont like this thread why are you so concerned that you keep coming back?

Look this is all i have to say to it, in my opinion i don't believe Naruto can beat Madara in a one on one fight not now anyway because
Madara has what like 80+ years of battle experience plus he was born during a time when war was a common thing. So i'd say Naruto needs to get some battle scars first before he steps in the ring with someone like Madara.
I never stated i didn't like the thread just quite the opposite, but these thread will always attract disrespectful people. I'm not crucifying you dude like everyone else has, I just think Naruto needs a little more experience under his belt; now maybe if naruto was already like 20-21, hell yeah he would stomp madara, In the mud, through the earth, to the core of the earth.

[Priyam Bhowmick]

Preta path absorbs all ninjutsus. If Madara really had awakened the rennigan during his lifetime then he cn use all the 6paths power though he hasnt. Nd what makes u thnk he cannot. Naruto has no ans. to heavenly tec. like the meteore tec. nd ultimate Susanoo. Rasenshuriken nd TBB would nt be enough. He still hasnt surpassed legendary Madara.

[Datguyjr]

I'd have to disagree, Madara > BM Naruto, why?

1st, Rinnegan, before I mention the other Paths, Preta Path alone naturalizes BM and other chakra based attacks Naruto has (Which is 90% or more). Now the rest of the Paths, Asura Path for added Taijutsu support and mechanical attacks, Animal Path to overwhelm Naruto with constant summons, Deva Path to negate all other possibly attacks Naruto could do & pull Naruto in towards him and possibly combo with Human Path to remove his soul & finally Naraka Path to repair any damage Madara may receive while fighting BM Naruto. Although Madara hasn't been shown using the other Paths, he is able to since he posses the Rinnegan.

"The Rinnegan allows the user to use all of the six paths' techniques, as well as the seventh path — that is "beyond life and death" - Source & Proof.

2nd, Wood Release, Naruto has been able to counter Wood Release to an extent, but he can not counter Flower World and has no defense against it. Naruto could attempt to destroy the Flowers before it takes effect or other Wood Release techniques with TBB, multiple Shadow Clones with Mini TBB or Rasengan variants but that could be countered with Madara's multiple Wood Release Clones combined with Susanoo or Uchiha Return.

3rd, Perfect Susanoo, based on what Madara said, I believe BM is equal to Perfect Susanoo but even though he is not Edo, he still has a large supply of Chakra ("Madara was noted to have been born with an extremely powerful chakra, even by the Uchiha standards" - Source & Proof) which is what gives Madara the edge, being able to maintain Susanoo longer then Naruto could maintain BM, which is only 5 minutes (Source). So after Naruto's 5 minutes are up, I highly doubt he will be able to fight on par with Madara's Perfect Susanoo on top of Amaterasu, Wood Release, and Rinnegan abilities.

4th, Genjutsu, Naruto may be immune to Genjutsu but Madara with his Sharingan abilities could possibly suppress Kurama's chakra within Naruto like Sasuke did, Proof.

5th, Taijutsu, both Madara and Naruto have exceptional Taijutsu skills, Naruto's Base Mode & SM only since Preta Paths absorbs BM Taijutsu, but Madara has added support from Asura Path & partial Susanoo forms for any CQC situation such as arms, ribcage, etc. to add in fighting with Taijutsu.

[OneOfTheNine]

Madara is using firechakra, Naruto is using Wind = Naruto will get fryed

[~Sovereign~]

Look this is all i have to say to it, in my opinion i don't believe Naruto can beat Madara in a one on one fight not now anyway because
Madara has what like 80+ years of battle experience plus he was born during a time when war was a common thing. So i'd say Naruto needs to get some battle scars first before he steps in the ring with someone like Madara.
I never stated i didn't like the thread just quite the opposite, but these thread will always attract disrespectful people. I'm not crucifying you dude like everyone else has, I just think Naruto needs a little more experience under his belt; now maybe if naruto was already like 20-21, hell yeah he would stomp madara, In the mud, through the earth, to the core of the earth.

and i respect OPINION, i just dont like it when people try to call me wrong and have NOTHING to back up wat their saying..

naruto has enough experience because EVERY opponent he fight was more experienced than him....its not like im saying naruto stomps him, i think naruto wins at extremely high difficulty

i know but this thread is FILLED (not just a few people) with disrespectful people with no proof or explaination

No

yes

Madara shits on his fodder ass.

fail post

Preta path absorbs all ninjutsus. If Madara really had awakened the rennigan during his lifetime then he cn use all the 6paths power though he hasnt. Nd what makes u thnk he cannot. Naruto has no ans. to heavenly tec. like the meteore tec. nd ultimate Susanoo. Rasenshuriken nd TBB would nt be enough. He still hasnt surpassed legendary Madara.

sage mode>preta path
just because madara awakened rinnegan, doesnt mean he MASTERED it

perfect susano<<=kurama/tbb

your obviously talking about EDO madara....so FAIL

I'd have to disagree, Madara > BM Naruto, why?

1st, Rinnegan, before I mention the other Paths, Preta Path alone naturalizes BM and other chakra based attacks Naruto has (Which is 90% or more). Now the rest of the Paths, Asura Path for added Taijutsu support and mechanical attacks, Animal Path to overwhelm Naruto with constant summons, Deva Path to negate all other possibly attacks Naruto could do & pull Naruto in towards him and possibly combo with Human Path to remove his soul & finally Naraka Path to repair any damage Madara may receive while fighting BM Naruto. Although Madara hasn't been shown using the other Paths, he is able to since he posses the Rinnegan.

"The Rinnegan allows the user to use all of the six paths' techniques, as well as the seventh path — that is "beyond life and death" - Source & Proof.

2nd, Wood Release, Naruto has been able to counter Wood Release to an extent, but he can not counter Flower World and has no defense against it. Naruto could attempt to destroy the Flowers before it takes effect or other Wood Release techniques with TBB, multiple Shadow Clones with Mini TBB or Rasengan variants but that could be countered with Madara's multiple Wood Release Clones combined with Susanoo or Uchiha Return.

3rd, Perfect Susanoo, based on what Madara said, I believe BM is equal to Perfect Susanoo but even though he is not Edo, he still has a large supply of Chakra ("Madara was noted to have been born with an extremely powerful chakra, even by the Uchiha standards" - Source & Proof) which is what gives Madara the edge, being able to maintain Susanoo longer then Naruto could maintain BM, which is only 5 minutes (Source). So after Naruto's 5 minutes are up, I highly doubt he will be able to fight on par with Madara's Perfect Susanoo on top of Amaterasu, Wood Release, and Rinnegan abilities.

4th, Genjutsu, Naruto may be immune to Genjutsu but Madara with his Sharingan abilities could possibly suppress Kurama's chakra within Naruto like Sasuke did, Proof.

5th, Taijutsu, both Madara and Naruto have exceptional Taijutsu skills, Naruto's Base Mode & SM only since Preta Paths absorbs BM Taijutsu, but Madara has added support from Asura Path & partial Susanoo forms for any CQC situation such as arms, ribcage, etc. to add in fighting with Taijutsu.

THANK YOU for at least having a explaination

1. madara hasnt show any rinnegan abilities other than preta path...so that's all im counting......why? because there is NO proof that madara has MASTERED rinnegan like nagato

sage mode chakra> preta path

2. this is speculation, how do you know naruto cant counter flower world? naruto's clones can do it....if madara goes near the flower world (to counter the clones) he'll past out with the clones

3. tbb can take out perfect susano so basically they cancel each other out, so now it's wood preta path and the fan vs km naruto + sage mode..........sage mode>preta path frog kata>fan km naruto >wood (as shown in the manga)

MADARA DOESNT HAVE AMATERASU, ARROWS AND TSUKUYOMI

4. yes naruto is immune to genjutsu AND madara cant suppress naruto's chakra, NO proof that madara can control kurama while its inside naruto

5. i personally think naruto has better taijutsu

[sharigon demon33]

madara might be able to unleash a bout load of hell but naruto can unleash the nine tails at his diposal so it more of a death by lose of chakra.

[Monster nagato]

madara>naruto read older post

[Kyuubi Uzumaki]

although i am not a good madara fanboy but madara defeated of nearly killed the 5 kages and it would give a tough match for naruto

[lorenzomorae]

ok i have not read all the comments and stuff but guys remmember that naruto now also has the chakara of the ( i think) all tailed bests) and remmember that he might be able to fujge sage mode and bm. and also he does have his comrades to back him up when it comes to the wood clones :D. p.s ( Sora could also be helping tht lazy **** just was there and left. -.-