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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    why does it take kakashi so long to get ms if he killed rin????
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Yo pappy View Post
    This ^ Kanabi Bridge is near the Hidden Stone Village, and that is as far from Kirigakure as you can get. wtf



    As far as the chapter goes, meh. No surprises here, just another cliffhanger. I'm sure this is all some sort of mistake anyway, we all know Kakashi wouldn't purposely kill Rin.
    My theory is that Rin was a spy or a mole. That, genjutsu on Kakashi, or a Genjutsu on Obito.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Zerofnaruto View Post
    I rate this chapter a 5! Becuase WTH it was one hell of a plot twist! Din't see it comming, but feel like its a part of madaras plan..... There are a lot of theorys, one is that it was two zetzus that he saw, bascily a trap in brainwashing obito to following madura. Another is that rin betrayed the leaf village or is a spy....... kakashi still cryed when he stabed her in the chest......One of mine is that kakashi was trying to touch rin's boob, but forgot that he had chidori on! she died, just for laughs. But seriously...I hear that maybe the ninja that kakashi and rin were fighting were acualy zetzus..... and then in the confustion, kakashi acidently stabed rin with a chidori though her chest. Comon guys, we all know kakashi from day 1.... why the hell would you lose respect for him? Remember he died from fighting pain..... the only one who was even able to take 1 of the 6th paths of pain down before he died by the main pain.... So we know he woun't just straight up kill rin without no dam reason! please try to think outside the box insted of the same theroys again and again.... or use these theorys and explaing it in a diffrent way......
    Well, actually, yeah....... It could have been from the confusion of the battle. Obito said you "let" Rin die. That's probably what he ment.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Im pretty sure It was not an accident. Look at kakashi's face. It was not an "oops" face.
    I believe it's just a massive Plan by Madara. He was so sure that Obito will be back. Hints that he has something to do with that.

    Also, Obito says Kakashi "Let" Rin die and not "killed" Rin. So whatever it is, Obito, and we for that matter, will find out.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Kakashi was a regular Sasuke wasn't he? lol Anyway, Madara had something to do with this so people, quit getting your panties all in a bunch. Either genjutsu, Zetsu clone, or maybe Rin did betray the leaf. Whatever the reason, can't wait to find out!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by bender View Post
    why does it take kakashi so long to get ms if he killed rin????
    good question
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayloblaze View Post
    What if Rin was a traitor giving info to the Mist? Wouldn't that be just a total mind ****. I can't wait from answers next week!
    But he regrets killing her. I think he did it by accident and couldn't see cause of the mist... maybe? I'm screaming over here:

    "Why, WHYYYYY!!!!!!!!"
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Why does everyone assume that Kakashi should change his mask? He can keep the same darn mask if he wants.

    Also, it could be a momento to remembering Obito's "death"
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Guys guys guys calm down. I'm sure this can all be explained easily. Obviously Rin told Kakashi that he could feel her up and Kakashi got over excited. Accidentally using Chidori is like premature ejaculation to Kakashi.
    kakashi was crying so he had to kill her or it was a mistake. The fourth told him not to use the chidori anymore he was to fast and it was imperfect. Should have listen kakashi should have listened
    you forget that Kakashi's chidori was perfected after he recieved a sharingan
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Pandering. That's what this chapter is, pure and simple. This is one of the worst chapters I've seen in months. What was it, 16 chapters of Obito doing nothing and just running around, and then one provocative image that's going to be the cliff-hanger for the next week? It's the most blatant piece of audience manipulation and suspense-manufacturing that I've seen in this manga, maybe since Itachi "magically" appeared in the fight against Danzo (right before the manga went on a two-week break, no less).

    So we're left with the image of Kakashi, a good guy who recently learned the hard lesson of protecting one's friends, killing an innocent and unarmed Rin with a stab through the heart.

    AND we know that Obito was there. He witnessed the whole thing. But history tells us that he didn't reveal himself to Kakashi, or ask what the motivation was or anything like that. This leads to a handful of bad options:

    1) This scene was real (probably influenced by genjutsu or mind-control), in which case Obito is a hypocritical loser and Kakashi is some kind of monster or maniac. Obito must have seen the death of Rin and simply turned around and gone home without so much as questioning why this happened or what Kakashi was thinking.
    2) The scene was staged (by zetsu clones or the transformation jutsu), but Obito just gave up, turned around and went back to the cave without seeing the truth and without asking Kakashi why he did what he appeared to do.
    3) This scene is fake, and Kishi showed it to us at the end of a very boring chapter just to manipulate our emotions and make us eager to see the chapter next week where, hopefully, something real happens.

    If that's the real Rin and Real Kakashi, there must have been some kind of genjutsu or weird misdirection going on that confused Kakashi into doing it. If that's a fake Rin it could be a transformed Zetsu or a transformed mist Ninja. In that case, where the heck is the real Rin (and how did she really die?)? And if that is the real Rin, and she's actually about to die, why doesn't Obito rush down there and try to use the same exact Hashirama/Zetsu goup to save her life as was used to save his?

    I mean, here's the big problem: We KNOW that Obito is on the battlefield, and we KNOW that Obito has attached to his body a substance that allows a person who should be dead to still be alive. So, if Rin is really going to die why doesn't Obito try to save her life? And, in the process, why doesn't he expose himself to Kakashi as still being alive and well?

    This chapter is making me extremely angry. I sincerely hope that the next chapter is better, because they can't get much worse.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    All staged by Madara.. Clones.....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Ok, wild thought.
    They were attacked by Hidden Mist. They got desperate. Rin told Kakashi to kill her in order to upgrade his sharingan and give him a chance to escape.
    It would explain all these things Kakashi has been saying about comrades on the first few episodes of Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I really wanna believe that Kakashi had a good reason for doing this if he was voluntarily doing it.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    that was probably kakashi under a genjutsu, or maybe they did the same thing that Hanzo did to Nagato, Konan and Yahiko... i would say, 1 of them had to kill each other in order to 1 of them stay alive, so Rin told Kakashi to kill her.... Or i would say the white Zetsu thats attached to Obitos body messed up his mind.... when Pain attacked Konoha he killed Kakashi, at his last momment he was saying he was sorry cuz he couldnt save his sensei, Rin and Obito, and that now he was going to meet them in the afterlife, if Kakashi killed Rin cuz she was a traitor, he wouldnt say that....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    why didnt my earlier post show?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I think hat in obito's vision it was zetsu pertending to be attacking rin, then kakashi comes from behind tries to chidori zetsu but he goes into the ground and he accidentely hits rin that's why he's crying
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by radienx000 View Post
    Nah. Kakashi probably thought Rin was an enemy due to the mist - he couldn't see properly. Oh wells. It kinda sucks as to why Obito is what he is now. I wish Rin didn't die so Obito wouldn't have to be evil =(
    This is the most sense anybody has made in a while. Do I see a God of War reference? :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    To me this week was kinda lame, I guess it was necessary but still, some of it was pointless!
    Everyone knew it was gonna be Kakashi that killed Rin...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    where the **** is minato to Save the day!??
    Like Super Minato.. is the superman version of naruto.......

    Minato where are you!, having fun with kushina?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605Predictions

    That would be possible, but the main problem would be that the White Zetsu wouldn't be able to copy Obito's other Sharingan. Since Obito had linked vision through Kakashi before he saw Rin, its definitely Kakashi.
     
         

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