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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Well.. I think you guys are forgetting something.. Kakashi hasn't known Obito was alive until just a few chapters ago... So try to think ahead from that... Either Obito left the scene after he witnessed Kakashi kill Rin, or he posed as someone else... which, if he did, doesn't make sense because Kakashi is smart enough to put 2 and 2 together... I dunno what to expect for the next chapter... but I don't believe Kakashi killed Rin purposely. And it's more than likely a ploy by Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    It's obvious that Madara had something to do with it. Why in the hell would he say you will be back?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Ill bet when they do this Anime style, Madara will laugh maniacally after he says "You'll be back" and Obito leaves.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigJollyGiant View Post
    Agreed. Kakashi crying and the whole eye connection are intended for us to understand that this was really Kakashi, not a clone or doppleganger. Rin could still be a Zetsu clone that tricked Kakashi into killing her. Although, I'll admit, she is crying too... Evidence that Rin is still alive could be found in 139 (as somebody else posted earlier) where some woman is talking with Kakashi at Obito's grave and we never see her again. Although, this woman doesn't look like Rin at all.

    If this is the case, Kakashi was probably pretty shaken up by having to kill a Rin clone and made Rin go into hiding/change her appearance after this incident to keep his promise to Obito since somebody seemed to have it out for her. I'm still holding out for Rin being alive and becoming an integral part of the current time story. It would be a nice twist and a good transition for a character we have yet to meet, such as "the one who knows everything".
    Yup, i remember that girl, kakashi is standing by someone´s camp, and she appears right on his side and asks something about obito, it is during the 3rd hokages funeral though.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    i'm of the opinion kakashi just missed with raikiri and killed her. i dont think it's the silent kill mist because it just looks like rain and vapor on the last page, not the consistent haze like when zabuza used it (could be 100% wrong). actually the more i type, i like the traitor theory as well. small comparison in my own mind, but it seems like the same situation keeps happening with different outcomes. jiraiya couldnt "save" (for lack of a better word) orochimaru for betraying/leaving/whatever, and he ended up dying later. if rin betrays and kakashi kills her for it, it makes it a bit more interesting to see if naruto is the one who succeeds in saving his teammate who betrayed them.

    edit - if obito awakens MS from this, how would kakashi get it later instead of now? because it seems the eyes are linked in what powers they can have, but do they share power or is that by the wielder. can you skip from 2 tomoe to MS? if it was previously answered i apologize. didnt read all 14 pages of response :D
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Obviously there's a mistake because Back when they unmasked Obito he said the reason why he's doing all the crimes is because Kakashi "let" Rin die. Obviously what we saw wasn't him letting her die. He killed her. So Either Rin died somewhere else or Obito worded his reason wrong.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Just thought of his what if Rin ran into kakashi attack by accident. Ok let me explain Kakashi and Rin are fighting the mist ninjas, and then Rin gets punched by one of the mist ninjas and stumbles away from her attacker not noticing that she stumbled between the fight with Kakashi and another mist ninja. Not able to stop kakashi hits Rin by accident.
    I can be totally off but it might show a little foreshadowing when Naruto and Sasuke were fighting on the rooftop of the hospital and they almost it Sakura.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Also the part where Zetsu was saying that with senju and uchiha dna combined you canget a greater just adds more evidence to the fact that you need both DNA to get rinnegan, in my opinion. Maybe now people can stop saying only Uchiha are the only ones that can get Rinnegan.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I think it is zetsu. Zetsu rape kakashi him and imitate kakashi.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    So this is how Kakashi achieved Mangekyou sharingang he killed Rin who is a really close friend.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    The most reasonable explaination for this is that kakashi was under a genjutsu or he was forced to kill rin because kakashi was always seen mentioning how he couldnt save her and when he hit her with chidori, he was clearly upset
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    what if Rin is alive all this time? On thing I have come to acknowledge in Narutoverse is nothing is impossible!!! wont that just shake Obito to his core!!!
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Interesting ending. For the people saying Rin was a spy.... LMAO SMH. She is defineatlly not a spy. And even if she was she wouldn't be killed, she'd be captured instead. Nobody is gonna go tell you to kill a 12 year old or whatever >.> I'm sure there will be a good reason as to why Kakashi killed Rin.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I think kakashi is hartless and knew the only was to get the MS was to kill his bestfriend
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Obito is under Madera's Tsukuyomi, he sees what Madera wants him to see, Madera tried to have Kakashi and Rin killed so Obito would go along with his plans, kakashi survived but Rin died
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterX View Post
    sorry, but when i read this, i thought to myself "what a retard.."

    how can there be such people posting here..:sy::flaw::flaw::flaw::sy::sy:
    I was thinking the same thing lol there's no other way to put it
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    One star only the last page was worth something
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by MellowHype View Post
    Everyone is jumping to conclusions. I believe Kakashi tried to use the incomplete Chidori again in the mist and hit Rin by accident. Then again, who were they fighting? No bodies on the battlefield whatsoever.
    Kakashi perfected Chidori with the Sharingan bud.. I honestly think you're right about the mist part though. I believe Madara had manipulated the hidden mist and had them attack Kakashi and Rin and due to the low visibility Kakashi Chidori'd Rin on accident.. But like other people said, there appears to be no enemies around so.... idk -_-
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaskedMan View Post
    Yup, i remember that girl, kakashi is standing by someone´s camp, and she appears right on his side and asks something about obito, it is during the 3rd hokages funeral though.
    that girl was hayate girlfriend..she's an anbu.. correct me if im wrong i forgot her name..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    So this make my point about this plot, that Tobi being Obito even more lazy, awful and just plain bad written by Kishi. I had a debate with a few people on this forum(about chapter 598 before Kishj finally reveal that Tobi was Obito, when Kishi show their MS eye's side by side and that they had the same MS eye design) that they had the same set of eye's and Kakashi can do the part of the Kamui technique with his left eye, that can transport items from far away by shooting Kamui( like Sasuke can shoot ameterasu with his right eye) and Tobi Obito can self absorb(just like Sasuke can extinguish and control ameterasu with his left eye)himself and whatever he touch with his right eye(I wonder where all those people who just thought that Kakashi was just using Kamui, but it didn't mean his and Tobi were the same set or that Tobi was more advance at using Kamui, they seem to have disapear). But my main point in the debate, which make even more sense now, is why didn't Tobi Obito go after Kakashi (the way he went after Konan) to get his other eye, because he can use Kamui to it's full extent, by doing both part of it and to perform susanoo or whatever his third power would of been to become stronger and a better boss, now even more since Kakashi kill Rin. Kishi is all over the place trying to connect the dots, the guy need to stop shooting up.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    waiting for next week :D when will wednesday come :confused:wease:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by CiNoize View Post
    It's obvious that Madara had something to do with it. Why in the hell would he say you will be back?
    Simple: He's confident that he's right and that Obito will realize it

    Quote Originally Posted by kiros23 View Post
    that girl was hayate girlfriend..she's an anbu.. correct me if im wrong i forgot her name..
    Yugao I think
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    i think that rin might have been under some mind control or something... and wanted kakashi to kill her to end it
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I wonder if it's possible they were fleeing from the mist ninja and they were catching up. Rin was too slow or something so Kakashi had to kill
    her so that she didn't leak info. The keypoints in this drama I think are failed to protect, let her die.

    If what I stated above is true, then Kakashi killed her while also trying to protect her since if the mist were close and he knew she wouldn't make it, he would
    save her from torture and also save info from leaking to the mist by killing her
     
         
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