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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    that's why he started teaming ninja dogs.

    When he killed Haku , he had to remeber that scene of him with Rin , ouch.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Kakashi was surprized when he found out who Tobi was and as close as Obito was when he saw Rin die there's noway Obito would'nt have sreamed out and not have been noticed bye Kakashi he would have seen he was alive he saw here die telepathicly because he was conected to zetsu all those who think his sharingan was conected to his other eye like the rinnegan are just wrong in my opinion sorry i like all the wild assumptions it was a Zetsu arm in his vision and in the same spot where the supposed Kakashi whent thru her chest and also Madara was way to confident that Obito would return this was all a set up my therory this is a story of how he awakened his mangekyo sharingan and how he was turned to Madaras side with Rin being the scarafice
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Rin is still alive.


    Who have seen a doton ninja , when Obito got crushed?
    Who have seen a mist ninja , when Rin was hurt?

    Kisame uses suiton techniques, black Zetsu use doton ones ? ...
    The suiton explosions are real and huge , the fog dissipating is very dense , the rock crushing Obito is huge.
    Those techniques have to be made by powerfull ninjas.


    Rin was giving infos over the war to Zetsu ( another doton ninja? ) , when Obito went to save her , Zetsu crushed him .
    She was giving info over kushina...to Kisame , and Kakashi saw she was a spy , Kakashi you are a hidden hero.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    God that was an effort to register. I be new here, and every week, i read the new issue, and come here o see peoples thoughts theorys and things.

    So thought i would join so i can through in my 2 cents every so often.

    I ant be too bothered to go back through all the discusions, but throwing in my idea of Kakashi hitting Rin with chidori, first, i dont think was an accident cause of it being incomplete, as in the gaiden after obito gave him his sharingan he completed it then. Also i don't think its genjutsu, as even though it is raining, it seems that Kakashi is in tears for what he has done. I think at the mo, i find that Rin being a traitor, is the most likely theory now. Also, i recon it goes to show why Obito battled Minato for not forgiving of him for not being there.

    Also Seems Obito has a bad thing of not forgiving people for their mistakes...

    And finnaly, Hello
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Deidera would still have been part of the hidden stone then. And as it seems it was Leaf and Mist shinobi involved in this fight.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Kakashi was a jonin by this time, doesn't nesecerily need his sensia with him all the time
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    just... holy shit... that was awesome...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    What if Obito's MS abilities activited, because of his close proximity with Kakashi and the senju body armor, and that caused Kakashi's arm, in the middle of an attack against a hidden mist ninja, to be sent to another dimension/towards the object Obito was thinking about the most....Rin...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    apparently, we don't really know much about Rin. From the way she is portrayed, she seems like a good person, but is that really who she is? ..her character can still be twisted into some form of spy or someone who's character was affected by the war related events, like Obito's death for example as a way to change her perception in life that is somehow evil.
    I won't be surprised if kakashi was forced to kill her, knowing he had no choice but to do so. Maybe that's the reason why kakashi says those who abandon their comrades are more scum than those who follow the rules. Because he wished he didn't do it.

    But yeah, we'll see..this chapter doesn't give us much info.

    Still, now we know what the kakashi gaiden was for. I wished they'd do a flash back on Rin, so we'd know her character more.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Davatar View Post
    What if Obito's MS abilities activited, because of his close proximity with Kakashi and the senju body armor, and that caused Kakashi's arm, in the middle of an attack against a hidden mist ninja, to be sent to another dimension/towards the object Obito was thinking about the most....Rin...
    WOW , that would be a powerfull technique , why not using it against Narutorama ?
    Obito sees via no eye what Kakashi sees via Kakashi's sharingan ( Obito's left eye ) , Kakashi do not seem to have the same effect.

    So it's Obito body ( optical nerves maybe boosted by Hashimara vigor ) responding to his lost eye proximity , that makes him see what his lost eye sees.
    Kakashi's arm is in Rin's heart.

    Do we see the armature of the squeleton of Juubi?
    One head , two legs , two arms , and ten tails.

    Gedo Mazo is the flesh , the 9 beasts are his chakra , easy game for a sage of the 6 paths.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Seighmund View Post
    I think one thing we re all overlooking is obito being able to see rin die before he got there. So that is one indicator that we should have known that kakashi killed her. THIS, I believe, is the most important thing in the chapter. If obito *being an uchiha* was able to SPY on konoha through kakashi because he had his other eye would make it perfect for obito to get all the intel he needed to invade konoha and basically train with minato without actually being there. Hence why he was able to learn minatos tactics and fight him so well at such a young age! HOLY SHIT I JUST BLEW MY OWN MIND! Let me know what you think!
    I believe you are right.

    I think that inspite of Rin getting killed; Minato was promoted to Hokage and kakashi to anbu after the war; this got Obito real mad and he followed the path of rebel since then(not believing in konoha way of justice). Uchiha's are true avengers kind of rebellious in nature. Now suddenly, Madara who I considered a power hungry kick ass villian has been turned into pyschic forcing people to embrace peace through force. So really the main theme of the story is turning into how to attain peace rather than who is good and who is bad? .. Madara and tobi has their own plan to attain flawless world and no matter what after this great war no matter who wins peace will be restored by hook or crook
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    kakashi killed rin because he has a rule and its to follow orders.so the leaf must of told him to kill rin because she was giving out information or something .so next week needs to pass so we all can learn the real truth!!!!:crazy::faust:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by rashad011 View Post
    kakashi killed rin because he has a rule and its to follow orders.so the leaf must of told him to kill rin because she was giving out information or something .so next week needs to pass so we all can learn the real truth!!!!:crazy::faust:
    No , there wouldn't be water explosion that huge , if that was just Rin and Kakashi fighting.
    Kakashi didn't follow Minato orders and escaped to go save Rin , he then saddly understoods by himself that he had to kill that spy.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    good develop to something that seem to be excited.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    This is a decent chapter. My only concerns is that Madara was too confident that Obito would comeback, almost as if he had planned the whole thing. The connection between the sharingan made me believe that it was infact Kakashi and not a clone. I am leaning to the fact that rin may have been a traiter and kakashi had take her out, but I have my doubts because the Kakashi is crying. She could have been under some sort of genjutsu, who knows lol we will find out eventually.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by JaXon View Post
    I think ur right, the zetsu's r all linked telepathicly sooo its very possible that rin is with a zetsu-kakashi clone thats showing obito what it see's. I'm thinking that if obito can see what kakashi see's then why hasnt kakashi seen things that obito see's like his training or where he is located through the years? N dont they use a four-man cell or formation? Sorry thats a diff topic.
    Because its "obito´s eye" that is on kakashi, thats why kakashi cant se through obitos eye, as we have seen that thing to see through his other eye just triggered when he was geting close to the battlefield, i dont believe he could be watching this whole time from kakashi´s eye.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by beastbomb9 View Post
    ...RIN WAS A TRADER...
    lol, what did she trade that provoked Kakashi so? jk
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Maybe Rin was used as a Hidden Mist spy (Kabuto was also a Konoha traitor) and Kakashi discovered Rin's ulterior motives...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    It's about to get real
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrafty View Post
    Now what if Sasuke killed Sakura like that?
    Who cares? Nobody seems to like her after all. :D No really, she's useless and can only cry for Sasuke. Why is Naruto even in love with her? Hinata is so much better.. >_>

    But anyways.. why couldn't Kakashi be in a Genjutsu? Itachi and Sasuke "fought" each other just with Genjutsu like 20 minutes long. And at that point Kakashi wasn't so strong with his (kinda new) Sharingan as he is now I would say. So Genjutsu is still a possibility IMO.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I want it to hurry up!!! lol i just want to know what happened!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Maybe its Zetsu, he may have cloned Rin and Kakashi to fool Obito
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I'm actually re-reading the Manga again and I just noticed something.. (what a coincidence, lol)

    http://www.mangareader.net/93-35-16/...hapter-30.html

    Look at the picture with Kakashi and Haku, it's like the same as what happened with Rin..
    Even his arm is at the exact same place.. right through the heart. (oh btw, he used Raikiri which is shown some sites before)

    So maybe Rin jumped (for whatever reason) in Kakashi's attack on purpose like Haku did?

    And maybe we will see how he lays Rin on the ground after and closes her eyes just as he did later in chapter 31.. dunno.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    It is obviously confirmed that the being who dealt the blow to Rin is Kakashi. While Obito was traveling towards the location, he envisioned himself killing Rin through his sharingan(owned by Kakashi).
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Anduril View Post
    I have exactly the same question as obito had,

    "Where is the yellow flash?? !_!"
    Busy in the bathroom.
    for the second time!
     
         

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