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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Kakashi killed her, that's why those tears in his eyes, I have no doubt about that... but WHY??? Now I am really depressed about Obito. I see why he is such a hater, I'd be if I saw that too! :mad:

    I'm sure Kakashi had a valid reason to do that, because otherwise he wouldn't be crying etc.

    Also, Obito's attack on Konoha now looks like his personal vengeance on Minato... he had a 'motive'

    "Why Obito hates the Uchihas??? Find out next time, on Dragon Ba... oops, Naruto, next time on Naruto!"
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    he def did kill her, and now we know obito can see out of kakaishi's eye he gave to him. clears alot of things up. also i have a feeling this why hes always like, never use this on your friends sasuke. i wanna see what happens thou. dont wanna wait till next week. what if he did it trying to unlock ms? like heard from someone thats how you do it. that would be wild as f**k
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Knights Saotome View Post
    he def did kill her, and now we know obito can see out of kakaishi's eye he gave to him. clears alot of things up. also i have a feeling this why hes always like, never use this on your friends sasuke. i wanna see what happens thou. dont wanna wait till next week. what if he did it trying to unlock ms? like heard from someone thats how you do it. that would be wild as f**k
    Kakashi would never kill her to obtain the mangekyo. Madara probably set it up for Obito to obtain it. He's already planned to use Obito as his partner in his plan.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    personally I know kakashi wouldnt do something like this without a perfectly explainable reason I actually think that his body was bieng controlled though yes I am sure kakashi was USED to kill rin.....
     
         

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    Here is what i think! maybe somebody agree with me on this, what if kakashi attacked a zetzu clone that covered rin? like zetzu is covering obito? maybe he just like u know covered the whole body until kakashi pierced him and/ her?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by weelo View Post
    kakashi was crying so he had to kill her or it was a mistake. The fourth told him not to use the chidori anymore he was to fast and it was imperfect. Should have listen kakashi should have listened.
    that's not the case. After Kakashi received obito's sharingan, he was able to control it.

    she said "ka.....kakashi" as if she was taken by surprise by him so I don't even think they we're fighting each other. If she attacked Kakashi he would subdue her, not kill her. If she were a traitor, the old kakashi before obito's death would probably have killed her. After Obito sparked Kakashi's revelation I don't think he would kill Rin even after finding out she's a traitor. He would probably just take her out to the fields and let her escape to never return. It could be a set up by Madara. Maybe Kakashi and Rin, or even just Rin, are zetsus. it could be a genjutsu. maybe he didn't even leave the cave.

    even better, maybe Kakashi is a zetsu and he killed Rin. Obito may find out that it was Madara all along that killed Rin and join forces with Kakashi :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Looking at all these theories about them being zetus and Kakashi being under genjutsu and him accidentally hitting Rin in the mist shows how little people pay attention to detail. Let me break this down as to why it can't be these options.

    Genjutsu - Kakashi has a sharingan which casts the ultimate genjutsu. Any genjutsu technique used against him is useless as he can see through it unless it has be cast by another sharingan user with superior eye level.

    Accidentally hit Rin - Kakahi may not be able to see through the mist but he definitely isn't the type to be so careless and make such a mistake. Don't forget this is Kakashi we are talking about. He is very tactical and would make sure not to leave Rin unguarded as she is the medic(and weakest) in the team(remember his strategy against Zabuza).

    Zetsus - A number of people already pointed out the link between Kakashi and Obitos eyes which means it is the real Kakashi(the senju + uchiha ability allowed obito to see what kakashi saw??). But as for Rin even if it was a setup and she was actually a zetsu then how is she still dead in real life and Kakshi goes to she her grave. Secondly why would Kakashi be crying if he was smart enough to work out that Rin was a zetsu.

    I believe that the only viable situation would be that Kakashi may have been manipulated by a technique similar to mind Transfer tech, Shadow tech or something of the sort where Kakashi can't control his own body.
     
         
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    Clearly tears, yeah it's raining but you don't see a pool of water under Rin or Obito's eyes. He's crying for sure.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I remember when kakashi told sasuke "right before he left the village" to not go down the road of revenge. Didn't kakashi state that he went down that path so he knows where it leads. Could it be that kakashi sought revenge against Rin. He trusted her and cared for her ands so kakashi felt betrayed when he found out she was a double agent for the mist. Think of her as a kabuto of her time. Kakashi didn't want to kill her but had to for the sake of the village. Orrrrrrr it could be what everyone else is saying. Genjustu.... Accident...Etc.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    What I want to know is, Kakashi didn't unlock MS until later on supposedly right? Well why didn't this event get him MS? Unless he already knew how to handle his emotions because he knew what he had to do. Either that or Rin wasn't as close as a friend to Kakashi as we thought she should've been. Or this event never really happened.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Sh*t just got real
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I think that rin was a spy for the hidden mist and kakashi had no other choice but to kill her, which would explain his tears and madara already knew this since he has zetsu spies all over that communicate through telepathy. And that he only wanted obito to see it happen so that he would have no reason to return to the leaf
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bahama View Post
    What I want to know is, Kakashi didn't unlock MS until later on supposedly right? Well why didn't this event get him MS? Unless he already knew how to handle his emotions because he knew what he had to do. Either that or Rin wasn't as close as a friend to Kakashi as we thought she should've been.
    Sasuke also thought he unlocked the sharingan during the fight against Haku. But he unlocked it during the slaughter of the clan.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I'm thinking that Kakashi might got controlled by a Zestu, If you see on page 17, there is this thing wrapped around Kakashi's arm. ALSO, Kakashi was crying so he can't be a Zestu. You know when that swirl Zestu wrapped around Kakashi, Who said they can control the person in there body.... Well that's my Theroy.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Zetsu copied Kakashi's chakra and turned into him to kill Rin... Madara knew about his love for Rin and staged it, that is why Madara is not telling his boys Zetsus to stop him from escaping, instead they are taking him there to witness the pain! Madara is a bad ass... He used zetsu against Obito to make him come back. its too obvious
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by J a y J ay View Post
    Sasuke also thought he unlocked the sharingan during the fight against Haku. But he unlocked it during the slaughter of the clan.
    Good point.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by DannySenju View Post
    you're clearly miss understood the way to unlock that kind of sharingan is to like feel regrets and feel like Sasuke felt when he was told the truth about
    ITachi and Kakashi didn't have mangekyou sharingan until Shippuden
    Itachi had MS before shippuden.

    Quote Originally Posted by akshayhp View Post
    why would she go away from the village and why would kakashi look so guilty when obito tells him that he let rin die
    Kakashi would look quilty because he killed Rin.
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    Kishi better have a good reason as to why Rin was stabbed in the chest by Kakashi >_>
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    At first i was thinking he killed her out of mercy, ie the mist did something to her and a quick death, but now looking at it a second time, most likely its genjutsu. which i find hard to believe Kakashi being tricked but with kishi the simplest answer is the right one.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    what if it was rin that cast that black stuff that was shown before kakashi broke her heart..... just me thinking
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    ...this scenario seems like izanami too, maybe kakashi got caught in that.
     
         

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