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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayloblaze View Post
    What if Rin was a traitor giving info to the Mist? Wouldn't that be just a total mind ****. I can't wait from answers next week!
    this would be very mind blowing seriously!! EEK!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Seighmund View Post
    I believe kakashi was under some kind of genjutsu
    Only another Uchiha such as Itachi should be able to put Kakashi under genjutsu now that he has a sharingan eye.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    i think kakashi was under some kind of genjutsu....or being controlled maybe.....I think atleast one of the mist ninja was zabuza.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    rin has to be real , we are seeing how she died , there's no point for kishi to prolong her dead in a flashback , when a war is going on

    also kakashi seems to be real he was crying ,genjutsu to me it feels stupid , maybe its zetzu & kakashi was fighting the mist ninja , obito saw her die an awoke his ms & it links to kakashi , but kakashi says he got it later on , maybe he didn't know how to activated as akid ( everything seems to not make sense in every way you see it)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayloblaze View Post
    I see I'm not alone in think Rin was a maybe a traitor, if that turns out to be true how can Tobi say "because you let Rin die"?
    could be a translation error. wouldn't be the first time its happened.

    still, I'm really curious to see what the circumstances are behind rins death. i bet were all gonna get trolled and its not gonna show us the rest cuz obito leaves so quickly and then like 5 chapters from now kakashi tells a now adult obito the whole deal and then idk, either shit will really hit the fan or obito will forgive him (most likely the first option)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Madara has to be behind all this somehow, since he knew that Obito would come back to him. Still, Kakashi's actions and Obito's words in earlier chapters about heroes not having to make excuses infront of graves don't imply that he was under genjutsu (In the last page, it looked like as if Kakashi was crying). Also, if the two were zetsus, Kakashi wouldn't have the MS, unless there are other ways to acquire it.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I'm dazed and confused. If their eyes are connected (i.e. shared vision), how come they don't have it now?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Well I shall clear some points first:
    1. Zetsu(Neji) when attacks Sakura didnt use byakugan even though he said he would N also when Shino asked the Zetsu(Hinata) she gave a pretty lame but good enough excuse. Plus HQ was informed of only physical attacks and no jutsu was used…So White Zetsu cannot copy a Jutsu its just a mere copy of chakra and body.
    2. Madara had something to do with this attack….as he predicted that Obito would come back. And "thank him properly".
    3. Either Kakashi was in a genjutsu…he did not purposely kill Rin because Obito said "You let Rin Die" also "I wont Blame you" he did not say ‘You killed Rin’ or somthn…so rin is not a traitor…or she rushed in for the battle and got attacked.
    4. Obito control Yagura (Mizukage) because the Mist was responsible for Rin’s death.
    5. Obito saw through Kakashi’s eyes in that particular moments when he pierced through Rin.
    Well so in short I think the man who pierced Rin is Kakashi cause he used Chidori...And Obito didnt blame Kakashi so it was a mistake or sumthn...Altough Rin could be Zetsu clone and transform infront of kakshi and he killed it..but Obito never knew the power of Zetsu after that he went back to madara, got more brain washed, got further stronger, then controlled Yagura!!
    Ill really be looking forward to Naruto Shippuden 605 ©
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Hey all
    first the chapter was ok cuz it shows just a abit of the plot
    ok maybe kakashi killed cuz he was under a mist genjustu because of the water around them and thought she was a mist ninja but i don't see any of them arround
    or he killed her cuz she is a traitor of the leaf and so he is their enemy but one think he learned from obito was:
    "Of course, the who disregard the rules, referred to as dirt. But those who leave their friends in the lurch are worse than dirt."
    - Obito to Kakashi Hatake
    but maybe he is in the anbu now and think a different way now
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    wtf kakashi kill rin naaa i think that i genjutsu? dawn wtf
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Great chapter can't wait for next week's !
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Kakashi killing rin...didn't see that coming.....it's more to it then that as will see next chapter
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by robert31393 View Post
    i doubt it because when zetsu took neji's chakra, zetsu was unable to use byakugan. if that was a zetsu clone of kakashi then that zetsu clone would be unable to use chidori.
    i see zetsu using kisame ability so you are i moron
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by xNTMI View Post
    i was thinking the same.
    remember OBITO said to kakashi " you LET rin die"
    if kakashi truly under his conscience he will say " you KILLED rin"
    so he is under some mind control something.
    this was a deep chapter i will say that i just cant see kakashi doing that on his own but he must have been under something or else this is really confusing to me
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    I don't think Rin was betraying the Leaf. If that were the case, then why would Kakashi be standing at both hers and Obito's graves? I don't think he would honor a traitor like that, friend or not. I'd go along with another of the theories: 1) he was under a genjutsu or 2) Rin was actually a Zetsu clone. Of course, the emotional angst for Kakashi that would come from Rin being a spy and having to kill her would be awesome...just not feasible to me. Either way, I definitely agree that Madara has something to do with it. He was WAAAAYYYY to confident that Obito would come back to him.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    it was an interesting chapter...it can be either one of three things
    1. It was a staged fight made by the white zetsu clones
    2. Rin was a secret spy for another village and Kakashi was given orders to eliminate her
    3. Kakashi was under some sort of genjutsu
    yet its kinda weird for a two man team to be in battle it still doesn't make sense to me so i lean more to a rigged fight created by zetsu clones.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    My jaw hit the floor

    ... it's still on the floor.
    I can't believe Kakashi killed Rin. Allthough he couldn't of done it willingly. Either he was under a genjitsu or she betrayed the village or something, but for Obito to see that... I don't know how he wouldn't try to attack Kakashi and how they wouldn't meet then and there, but perhaps he doesn't recognize him because of the hair or if Zetsu takes over and puts the mask on him/any combination of that. Can't wait for next weeks chapter.

    For the record, I always had faith in Kishi for making Tobi Obito. You just saw why.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    nobody understood that it was a zetsu clone, otherwise their vision would not be linked
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

    What if Obito's MS abilities activited, because of his close proximity with Kakashi and the senju body armor, and that caused Kakashi's arm, in the middle of an attack against a hidden mist ninja, to be sent to another dimension/towards the object Obito was thinking about the most....Rin...
     
         

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