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    Rins death = Ms? maybe not...

    The moment of Rins death we see that both Obito and Kakashi have 2 tomoe sharingan and not the 3rd.
    Surely this means that ms is impossible from this event?
    So what can we assume from this info? We can predict that obito received his ms between rin's death and the fight with the 4th only if we assume that his kamui powers are used with ms and not 3 tomoe shrngn.
    So lets say that in 605 both kakashi and obito receive 3rd tomoe which is almost a certainty since their eyes are linked and they both care about Rin. (kakashi was crying) The next step of their eye evolution needs to be considered. Lets ignore kakashi for now and just focus on Obito. The only people who Obito can possibly grow to care about are Madara and Zetsu. Since zetsu hasn't died yet we can rule out his death as the cause of MS (less its faked or each clone has its own personality and spiral zetsu bites the dust. (which leads to tobi wearing the spiral mask as a sign of respect later)) We can guess that maybe Madara is killed by obito? A father-son relationship may develop over a years time since obito would have no one else to bond with. Then Madara may reveal moons eye plan to obito entrusting him with it then tell him that he cannot enjoy the life he's living in the condition he's in and asks him to remove the cords in his back. Obito does so, effectively killing his own 'father' and MS appears.

    A few weeks/months later obito confronts minato where minato says 'Madara? no it couldn't be, Madara is long dead'
    to which Obito replies 'I don't know about that' Because he knows that Madara only died recently. (rather than 'no he's still alive' that supposedly everyone would have got from it)

    This is all based off the possibility that Rin's death doesn't lead to Ms or that Ms is not needed for kamui. Otherwise ignore this whole thread if 605 disproves this instantly

    So yeah, what do you think?
     
         

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    Re: Rins death = Ms? maybe not...

    Quote Originally Posted by esaboturaneht View Post
    The moment of Rins death we see that both Obito and Kakashi have 2 tomoe sharingan and not the 3rd.
    Surely this means that ms is impossible from this event?
    So what can we assume from this info? We can predict that obito received his ms between rin's death and the fight with the 4th only if we assume that his kamui powers are used with ms and not 3 tomoe shrngn.
    So lets say that in 605 both kakashi and obito receive 3rd tomoe which is almost a certainty since their eyes are linked and they both care about Rin. (kakashi was crying) The next step of their eye evolution needs to be considered. Lets ignore kakashi for now and just focus on Obito. The only people who Obito can possibly grow to care about are Madara and Zetsu. Since zetsu hasn't died yet we can rule out his death as the cause of MS (less its faked or each clone has its own personality and spiral zetsu bites the dust. (which leads to tobi wearing the spiral mask as a sign of respect later)) We can guess that maybe Madara is killed by obito? A father-son relationship may develop over a years time since obito would have no one else to bond with. Then Madara may reveal moons eye plan to obito entrusting him with it then tell him that he cannot enjoy the life he's living in the condition he's in and asks him to remove the cords in his back. Obito does so, effectively killing his own 'father' and MS appears.

    A few weeks/months later obito confronts minato where minato says 'Madara? no it couldn't be, Madara is long dead'
    to which Obito replies 'I don't know about that' Because he knows that Madara only died recently. (rather than 'no he's still alive' that supposedly everyone would have got from it)

    This is all based off the possibility that Rin's death doesn't lead to Ms or that Ms is not needed for kamui. Otherwise ignore this whole thread if 605 disproves this instantly

    So yeah, what do you think?
    no madara died when nagato summoned gedo mazou when fighting hanzo
     
         

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    Re: Rins death = Ms? maybe not...

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonTheArgonaut View Post
    no madara died when nagato summoned gedo mazou when fighting hanzo
    You genuis i never even thought of that + rep bro
     
         

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    Re: Rins death = Ms? maybe not...

    This is most probably what happened, I just thought of it! Please read!
     
         

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    Re: Rins death = Ms? maybe not...

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonTheArgonaut View Post
    no madara died when nagato summoned gedo mazou when fighting hanzo
    pretty bold statement with no proof bro.....not to mention he was hooked up to the plant not the statue so the statue disapearing for a few moment would not kill him
     
         

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    Re: Rins death = Ms? maybe not...

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonTheArgonaut View Post
    no madara died when nagato summoned gedo mazou when fighting hanzo
    pretty bold statement with no proof bro.....not to mention he was hooked up to the plant not the statue so the statue disapearing for a few moment would not kill him
     
         

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    Re: Rins death = Ms? maybe not...

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonTheArgonaut View Post
    no madara died when nagato summoned gedo mazou when fighting hanzo
    thats a good point, but only works if Madara is alive at the time.
     
         

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    Re: Rins death = Ms? maybe not...

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    This is most probably what happened, I just thought of it! Please read!
    i already read it and its a good idea but it doesn't explain how they got MS...
     
         

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