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  • Kakashi did what he had to do as a leaf shinobi

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  • It was an accident.

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  • It was an illusion.

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  • None of these

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    Quote Originally Posted by Child of the Prophecy View Post
    didn't nagato go eyes > rinnegan?
    if we go by the manga, madara gave him the rinnegan so that does not actually count
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi WAS a Zetsu clone! (STRONG EVIDENCE)

    That's actually pretty plausible. I never even noticed that Kakashi still had that rip in the bandage, especially noting how at least a few months must have passed since Obito managed to grow out his hair. Maybe he hasn't been back to Konoha to replace it since the war's still going on.
    It's also possible Obito was able to see through Kakashi's sharingan, seeing as it was originally his own which seems to be supported by Obito covering that eye.
    My other concern would be, wouldn't Obito have figured that out later on down the track, and at the same time hold a grudge against Zetsu?


    The other way of looking at this, is that the "experimental" < [Keyword] hidden mist ninja were the Zetsu clones all along.
     
         
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    Re: If Kakashi killed Rin, he did it with reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by SasoriOfTheRedSaand View Post
    Anyone find it odd that Obito said "You let Rin die" instead of "You killed Rin"?
    Exactly what I was thinking!
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    I dont think this is real, because in chapter 600 Obito said, You let rin die

    instead of, you killed rin so something is wrong here?
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    Hey has anyone here given a consideration that since this is a manga and is written in JAPANESE that maybe when the people at manga panda made the translation that it could have meant either "you let rin die" or "you killed rin"?!! then it would make sense that he killed rin
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    OBITO have a right to be angry!!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    She let him
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    My theory on this is that due to them fighting strong experienced mist ninja, they used that hidden mist jutsu(the one zabuza used) to hide their prescence and to seperate them. Since kakashi was not experienced in combat situations unlike his older self, he mistook rin for a mist ninja thus attacking her with chidori. Of course, this is just me speculating. I can't believe that kakashi did this on purpose because I don't want to think that rin was a spy. Also, I doubt it was madara plan, I mean if it was his plan just wow.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi WAS a Zetsu clone! (STRONG EVIDENCE)

    I'm going with that that was the real Kakashi. Obito covered where the sharingan he gave Kakashi is and saw exactly what kakashi was seeing. That seems more plausible imo than it was the zetsu part
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    Both are real. Let's see what made kakashi do that.
     
         

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    Chapter 604 Explained!

    Tobito explained to Kakashi that he "let" Rin die. This suggests that Kakashi was in a position to SAVE Rin, not KILL her like the Manga shows. Maybe there was a translation error, but I believe Madara has set this up. What also is weird, is that "Kakashi" is crying. This suggests that it was actually him, or maybe another trick to decieve Zetsu.

    Tobito explaining his motive (Kakashi "Letting" Rin Die: http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/600/12

    "Kakashi" killing Rin: http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/604/19

    Why I'm still skeptical or not, and using Tobito instead of Obito: http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/600/11
    (Notice the stars around the *I*, when he says he survived or not. Why would he need to speak like this?)

    Maybe there were some extreme circumstances where Kakashi HAD to kill Rin, but that seems unlikely. What do you guys think? (I thought about this, but now I think Rin wanted to die)

    Also look at this page: http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/600/13

    Kakashi asks if Tobito is going to blame him for Rin's death. This is ambiguous, but I don't think it would be a zetsu clone, b/c if it was, Tobito wouldn't have said "let" Rin die. Also, Tobito would have found out it was a Zetsu clone, and Madara would have been blamed for plotting Rins death (Although I do think he did). I'm thinking Rin maybe wanted Kakashi to kill her (sounds absurd I know but think about it). She doesn't seem too "shocked" and she's saying Kakashi in a way like, you're the last person I'm seeing before I die. Just something I thought up, I'm not saying it's "right" just accounting for various possibilities.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 604 Explained!

    Didn't you just post this same message a few minutes ago?
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 604 Explained!

    m i am thinking this is a kisame kind of thing, had to kill her so the info was safe
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 604 Explained!

    I agree with that or either it could be a genjutsu where he was being controlled
     
         

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    Re: I think I got it you guys!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by -Haku Yuki- View Post
    it can't be by mistake kakahsi meant to attack her by the stance his face looks as if he was prepared to attack a comrade, but after the things he said to sauske about raikiri tehres no way he'd use it on rin. my tehory is that rin was really killed hours before this happned by zetsu then zetsu transformed into her and attacked kakashi by doing this he was forced to her rin and zetsu made it look very real teh faciacl expression and all this is all according to madaars plan
    Unless he was trying to teach Sasuke from his own mistake/regret.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 604 Explained!

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ Mac View Post
    Didn't you just post this same message a few minutes ago?
    Yeah, but the title was unattractive. :/
     
         

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    Re: I think I got it you guys!!!

    There is no way Kakashi is evil he has no motive to be
     
         

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    Re: I think I got it you guys!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post
    obito knows kakashi visits grave frequently, how? shared vision may be an answer and to why we havent seen it during the fight because maybe it happens only when kakashi is emotionally disturbed, like when voldemort is disturbed harry sees visions of what voledmort is upto at that particular moment
    If that is true jkr should just put kishi on the court for plagiarism
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi WAS a Zetsu clone! (STRONG EVIDENCE)

    Im thinking the EXACT same thing. There is no way these two people are the same. UNLESS, a Zetsu clone did something to one of them then mimic'ed their bodies.
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    One week Kakashi is on top of the world next week everyone hates him, what a shame
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    It was zetsu clones, because u see that was on ground many zetsu clones. Two chakra draw of they kakashi rin getting away. zetsu did kakashi and rin copy and with some lighting he killed another zetsu clone logic **** that proof.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi WAS a Zetsu clone! (STRONG EVIDENCE)

    I had posted something similar this morning in the chap. discussion thread, so I agree. Except it doesn't really explain why Kakashi appeared to be crying. I guess we'll ahve to wait and see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Razuu View Post
    I'm going with that that was the real Kakashi. Obito covered where the sharingan he gave Kakashi is and saw exactly what kakashi was seeing. That seems more plausible imo than it was the zetsu part
    Well, here's a possible explanation (though I really doubt Kishi thought of this): visual information coming from your left eye is processed by the right side of your brain, and vice versa (neural cross-lateralization). Obito's right side is composed of Zetsu. So, if Zetsu were somehow feeding visual stimuli directly into the right side of Obito's brain, Obito would perceive those visions as originating from his left eye.
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    Personally i don't think Kakashi did kill Rin. It could be a Zetsu clone and before you shoot that idea down here is some proof.
    -Kakashi recieved the sharingan from Obito and was able to complete his chidori and therefore can use it to kill
    -White Zetsu said that all Zetsu could communicate telepathically which could explain why Obito could "see" Rin if that wasn't the real Kakashi and supposing that was in fact the real Rin
    -If Rin was in fact a Zetsu clone and that she perhaps was already KIA then that would explain Kakashi's tears (implying that wasn't the water) and then why he appeared so angery in the last page.
    Next is the fact that Madara knew that Obito would return to him.
    -This implies that Madara already knew what was going to happen and that he had some hand in orchestrating it
    -At the scene Obito only sees Rin and Kakashi meaning either the Mist ninja are all dead, have escaped, or were never there
    -It is also too convenient for Obito to have just in time to see Kakashi kill Rin
    Well that's my input on the matter but it is all just speculation and we won't find out till Kishi tells us what he wants us to know
     
         

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    Re: It's the real kakashi[proof]

    Quote Originally Posted by natzzz View Post
    LOOK AT THE BOTTOM PANEL[LEFT] CLOSELY.

    HE'S CRYING.TEAERS ARE FALLING.
    NOW THINK ABOUT IT IF ZETSU WAS KAKASHI HE WOUDN'T BE CRYING AND IF RIN WAS A ZETSU CLONE WHY WOULD KAKSHI BE CRYING SO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED OUT THERE THAT IS THE REAL KAKASHI.

    NOTE:I'M NO KAKASHI HATER
    we will know next chapter =)
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi WAS a Zetsu clone! (STRONG EVIDENCE)

    I don't know... 2 things that debunk this.

    1. Kakashi is always shaken up when Rin is mentioned .

    2. Kakashi was clearly crying. Yes, there was rain and that could have made it look like tears. However if you look right under his eyes there is clearly tears.

    Can Zetsu cry? Idk maybe they are like robots ;o
     
         

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