Who really killed Rin? Naruto chapter 604 discusion....

[Thundergod123]

Oh man, this is the best theory ever

[Sliding Ghost]

I think Kakashi did it with a reason.Before this mission,Minato told Kakashi(without Rin knowing)that he mustn't let the enemy gather any information about Konoha.So here we go,seeing that Rin could get captured and was a good source of information,Kakashi had no choice but to kill her.He thaught that protecting Konoha was more important than Rin,of course it was a painfull decision because he was crying.

Kakashi was like Kisame? Impossible.

Ever since Obito "died", he didn't put as much emphasis on the mission as before; he adopted Obito's life style.

Mangastream's translation 'experimental bodies from the hidden mist' convinces me that Kakashi was tricked. Plus, Zetsu seemed sincere. Since when does he lie?

Kishi's trying to setup a Darth Vader scenario, which probably isn't the case (would be pretty cliche). Obito said Kakashi let Rin die, not that he killed Rin.

Kakashi being forced to kill Rin (as in the case of Nagato) may also be a possibility.

[iamdsixth]

I dont think that Kakasi killed Rin.



On this page,Obito's words to Kakashi was "YOU LET RIN DIE"
If Kakashi realy did kill Rin,wouldn't the proper statement be "YOU KILLED RIN" ?

[Cookie..]

Like I said, if it was by accident, Kakashi would have been shocked and he would have immediately withdrawn Chidori.

But as we can see, it is not the case.

Good spotting. There must be a situation similar to Nagato and Yahiko.

[Kiro man]

Kakashi was like Kisame? Impossible.

Ever since Obito "died", he didn't put as much emphasis on the mission as before; he adopted Obito's life style.

Mangastream's translation 'experimental bodies from the hidden mist' convinces me that Kakashi was tricked. Plus, Zetsu seemed sincere. Since when does he lie?

Kishi's trying to setup a Darth Vader scenario, which probably isn't the case (would be pretty cliche). Obito said Kakashi let Rin die, not that he killed Rin.

Kakashi being forced to kill Rin (as in the case of Nagato) may also be a possibility.

Dude,Kakashi killed Rin with reason.Like Orcohimaru said,there are times when information is stronger than weapons and ninjutsu

[Shouten]

Good spotting. There must be a situation similar to Nagato and Yahiko.

Yes. You get the idea. I will add that scan as when Yahiko died in the hands of Nagato.

[Devo]

Maybe Rin was a spy......or it happens that Kakashi wanted MS....? uhh......too much confusing chapter........

[-Vishual-]

He must have mistaken in the mist

You're forgetting, Kakashi has the Sharingan, he can distinguish chakra by color, so I think he KNEW it was Rin.

[kiros23]

Good spotting. There must be a situation similar to Nagato and Yahiko.

like this? http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=253739

[iamdsixth]

I dont think that Kakashi killed Rin.



On this page,Obito's words to Kakashi was "YOU LET RIN DIE"
If Kakashi realy did kill Rin,wouldn't the proper statement be "YOU KILLED RIN" ?

[Shouten]

Maybe Rin was a spy......or it happens that Kakashi wanted MS....? uhh......too much confusing chapter........

Being a Kakashi fan, I'll go with Rin being a spy.

If Kakashi killed someone just to get MS, then he will be dubbed a total douche, and I don't want that.

[Shouten]

I dont think that Kakasi killed Rin.



On this page,Obito's words to Kakashi was "YOU LET RIN DIE"
If Kakashi realy did kill Rin,wouldn't the proper statement be "YOU KILLED RIN" ?

Read the next page after that:

Kakashi said: "AREN'T YOU GOING TO BLAME ME?"

Pertaining to Obito's statement that Kakashi LET Rin die, and not blaming Kakashi directly for killing Rin.

That put a question mark on Kakashi to why Obito did not blame Kakashi for killing Rin, and Obito just stated that Kakashi let Rin die.

Nonetheless, one thing is for sure: Kakashi killed Rin on purpose.

[Stampy]

I dont think that Kakashi killed Rin.



On this page,Obito's words to Kakashi was "YOU LET RIN DIE"
If Kakashi realy did kill Rin,wouldn't the proper statement be "YOU KILLED RIN" ?

This guy's got it. Also I don't think it was Nagato/Yahiko situation. More like Rin had gone south on Konoha and Kakashi played the mission as always.
But again the spy thing... why would Rin act like this, she says Ka...kashi after taking the hit... makes no sense.

ALSO... what's the use of putting the spoiler tag if you're just gonna put the spoiler in the title ?!?!?

[eliteplague]

Ok so we all see here Kakashi killing Rin:



I think Kakashi did it with a reason.Before this mission,Minato told Kakashi(without Rin knowing)that he mustn't let the enemy gather any information about Konoha.So here we go,seeing that Rin could get captured and was a good source of information,Kakashi had no choice but to kill her.He thaught that protecting Konoha was more important than Rin,of course it was a painfull decision because he was crying.


Now then,Obito saw Kakashi killing Rin and somehow he will find later that it was set by Konoha elders.Consumed by hatred,he accepts helping Madara with project tsuki no me(the moon's eye plan),and after 1/2 years(not sure),he plans to destroy Konoha with the nine tails.See here:




So this is how things might go.Any thoughts?

That's disgusting, why would Kakashi do such a thing. Kill a comrade/childhood friend, I don't see Kakashi doing such a thing. Here is a question for you, do you think Naruto would ever kill his friend/comrade? I bet you he wouldn't never do that! You *******, OP!

[SandVillageShinobi]

I'm still going with the idea that Madara put Obito under genjutsu to bring him back to him and make him willing to go on with the Moon's Eye plan with him. I don't see Kakashi purposefully killing his friend and I believe he would have good through hell and high water just to grant Obito's final wish to protect her. That was my original idea and I am sticking with it. If I am wrong I am wrong, but we won't find out until the next manga.

[eliteplague]

it makes alot more sense than OH KAKASHI MUSTVE BEEN A ZETSU CLONE!! or OH RIN WAS A ZETSU CLONE!! that stuff is just retarded.

You guys made theories of Tobi being Obito, and everyone thought it was retarded. But guess what? It was true.

[majinbuu1307]

This is what I don't understand(unless it is a HUGE translation error)

Why would obito say earlier that kakashi LET rin die when we just clearly see Kakashi pretty much just killed Rin(don't give me it's a clone, Kakashi is clearly crying)


And obito saw it..



I know I'm just gonna have to wait for more chapters. Just confused on that part.

[Shouten]

This guy's got it. Also I don't think it was Nagato/Yahiko situation. More like Rin had gone south on Konoha and Kakashi played the mission as always.
But again the spy thing... why would Rin act like this, she says Ka...kashi after taking the hit... makes no sense.

ALSO... what's the use of putting the spoiler tag if you're just gonna put the spoiler in the title ?!?!?

1. That's why we wait for next week for some explanations.
2. As long as I give people heads up that the thread contains spoilers, there would not be any problem.

[SandVillageShinobi]

I'm still going with the idea that Madara put Obito under genjutsu to bring him back to him and make him willing to go on with the Moon's Eye plan with him. I don't see Kakashi purposefully killing his friend and I believe he would have good through hell and high water just to grant Obito's final wish to protect her. That was my original idea and I am sticking with it. If I am wrong I am wrong, but we won't find out until the next manga.

[Shouten]

Kakashi said: "AREN'T YOU GOING TO BLAME ME?"

Pertaining to Obito's statement that Kakashi LET Rin die, and not blaming Kakashi directly for killing Rin.

That put a question mark on Kakashi to why Obito did not blame Kakashi for killing Rin, and Obito just stated that Kakashi let Rin die.

[osba]

a girlfriend of mine is a mangaka.. i'll ask her to translate it

[osba]

i never bothered with tobi.. why does it matter who he is?

[Shouten]

a girlfriend of mine is a mangaka.. i'll ask her to translate it

Not sure if got a mangaka girlfriend because you love her,

or got a mangaka girlfriend to help translate raw japanese manga.

[radize]

Waiting for the other chapter... It wilL be clear

[osba]

It was a clone but it was injected with paint and water so it could cry and bleed!!