Who really killed Rin? Naruto chapter 604 discusion....

[natzzz]

if that's the case, then maybe a genjutsu lol?

cant belive madara will make a genjitsu that realistic and the whole point of a genjitsu will be to make obito hate kakashi,why would tears be helpfull in that case.

[hatakii kakashii]

i think that Rin is a spy and Kakashi had to kill her

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

Dammit can people please read this here http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=253530

I believe it is the answer to all the misconceptions!

[natzzz]

i think that rin is a spy and kakashi had to kill her

best explanation.explains why he would cry because he had no choice but to kill her when he found out that rin was a spy.kakashi would do anything for knoha even kill rin.

[cLang cLang]

cant belive madara will make a genjitsu that realistic and the whole point of a genjitsu will be to make obito hate kakashi,why would tears be helpfull in that case.

I believe that you already answered your own question, ''To make it realistic'' as possible.

That, or Kakashi simply wants to fodderize Rin lol.

[natzzz]

dammit can people please read this here http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=253530

i believe it is the answer to all the misconceptions!

that dosent explain anything.

[hatakii kakashii]

nice theory

[natzzz]

I believe that you already answered your own question, ''To make it realistic'' as possible.

That, or Kakashi simply wants to fodderize Rin lol.

cant belive madara will make a genjitsu that realistic and the whole point of a genjitsu will be to make obito hate kakashi,why would tears be helpfull in that case.
DONT THINK U READ THAT PART.IF U DID I WOULD LIKE U TO ANSWER THAT.^^

[TheRealAkatsukiLeader]

Amazing theory, this chapter was a bit confusing, but I can't wait until next week. :D

[natssuu]

So it was Zetsu who killed Rin, but before that, he transformed into Kakashi.

[INVISIBLE MAN]

This theory actually makes sense.now i'm sure of one thing.that it is the real kakashi.

[natzzz]

this theory actually makes sense.now i'm sure of one thing.that it is the real kakashi.

and i'm sure it's the real rin too.

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

that dosent explain anything.

I dare you to actually read my theory here:http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=253530

and then say that to me!

[natzzz]

i dare you to actually read my theory here:http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=253530

and then say that to me!

explain how madara can see those events happening.he hasen't been out of the cave for a long time and he has sharingan not bayakugan so he cant see outside.my reply for your thread.

[natzzz]

Explain how madara can see those events happening.he hasen't been out of the cave for a long time and he has sharingan not bayakugan so he cant see outside and madara was weak then so i really dont think he can maintain a genjitsu from long range.

[lol99]

well i disagree, the connection between the two sharingans has been foreshadowed heavily before and in this chapter (obito clutching his left side of face where the eye is missing, kakashi's eye), obito was seeing things from kakashi viewpoint, that is the image of rin with a hand through her chest, it happened then and there.

i don't think it was a recording playing in obito's head but a kind of shared vision like rinnegan, sounds strange but thats what i infer from the above things ^

[ziggyZ]

Nah.

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

Explain how madara can see those events happening.he hasen't been out of the cave for a long time and he has sharingan not bayakugan so he cant see outside and madara was weak then so i really dont think he can maintain a genjitsu from long range.

Madara is Madara, he can do anything! How did he see all of this happening? Zetsu showed it to him right after it happened, and then Madara prepared his Genjutsu!

well i disagree, the connection between the two sharingans has been foreshadowed heavily before and in this chapter (obito clutching his left side of face where the eye is missing, kakashi's eye), obito was seeing things from kakashi viewpoint, that is the image of rin with a hand through her chest, it happened then and there.

i don't think it was a recording playing in obito's head but a kind of shared vision like rinnegan, sounds strange but thats what i infer from the above things ^

We have never seen a shared vision between Tobi and Kakashi before, even during their fight! What would be the point of seeing it happen when he is seconds away from getting there?

I think it could be modified a bit, but so far this is the only thing that makes sense! Kakashi thought Obito died, and apparently Obito is standing practically next to Kakashi and Rin, how do you explain that? It has to be either a recording, or a Genjutsu!

[TrollingSage]

yeah it goes like 1,2,3,ms,ems and rinnegan.
sharungan just cant go to 2 tomoe to MS

Just out of curiosity; have ever heard of that thing people do whereby they fake emotions? Its called acting.

[natzzz]

Just out of curiosity; have ever heard of that thing people do whereby they fake emotions? Its called acting.

dont think this is the same.why would anyone act in front of a dying person.

[lol99]

Madara is Madara, he can do anything! How did he see all of this happening? Zetsu showed it to him right after it happened, and then Madara prepared his Genjutsu!

We have never seen a shared vision between Tobi and Kakashi before, even during their fight! What would be the point of seeing it happen when he is seconds away from getting there?

I think it could be modified a bit, but so far this is the only thing that makes sense! Kakashi thought Obito died, and apparently Obito is standing practically next to Kakashi and Rin, how do you explain that? It has to be either a recording, or a Genjutsu!

obito knows kakashi visits grave frequently, how? shared vision may be an answer and to why we havent seen it during the fight because maybe it happens only when kakashi is emotionally disturbed, like when voldemort is disturbed harry sees visions of what voledmort is upto at that particular moment

[Simple Math]

seems possible ^^

[ziggyZ]

Just out of curiosity; have ever heard of that thing people do whereby they fake emotions? Its called acting.

Oooh. well actually..

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

obito knows kakashi visits grave frequently, how? shared vision may be an answer and to why we havent seen it during the fight because maybe it happens only when kakashi is emotionally disturbed, like when voldemort is disturbed harry sees visions of what voledmort is upto at that particular moment

WOW never would have guessed! But even so, it only answers one part of the question.....how about the other!! BTW ***** for telling me that!

[osba]

you guys are overthinking stuff lol. if madara wouldve wanted he couldve just taken his sharingan and be done with it... why would he be intrested in him? its nonsense... madara seems to be an okay guy.. he led his village to peace and spared a life by doing the massacre.. it wouldve happined whether he wouldve approved or not.