Who really killed Rin? Naruto chapter 604 discusion....

[Alcamea]

Well I think there are 2 major theories up until now Zetsu clone (kakashi) killed rin and kakashi killed Zetsu clone (rin). I could live with both of them but with the second there would be the question: When did Rin die if not at this time? And with both theories it doesn't make sense to see Kakashi cry...Wether he was a clone or himself, because if he knew she was a clone he wouldn't cry and Zetsu doesn't have feelings so he wouldn't also, not even for fake because he can't imagine human feelings...

Edit: I support the theory that Zetsu killed Rin in Madaras order, I just can't live with the tears ^-^

[Rintte]

Hopefully there is a good explanation for this T.T

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

it is more exciting but i just dont see it happening..

Well looking at that image....dont you think it already has?

[Mizukata]

yup as you said...all that was a part of madaras plan...the thing is thats obitos biased flashback...
third option ...kakashi being controlled...

by the way...in case your wondering my guess is in truth obito can see trough his own kakashi inplanted sharingan

[medal32]

She probably said his **** was small

[Bloody Temari]

It was Kakashi who killed Rin but we don't know reason. If it was a zetsu clone Obito wouldn't have seen through zetsus eye -.-

[Thane]

Interesting, interesting...I like these theories I must say. Of course, we may all overthink it and Rin was nothing but a spy this whole time (remember, Kabuto was also a medical ninja spy child thingy)...but this is much more exciting!

[ShockwavvE]

She probably said his **** was small

And he threw a kunai at her.

[TheWillofFire]

I think it was the real Kakashi, and the real Rin at the same time Obito got there.
the title even says, "we meet again, and then..."

The thing is, those arent zetsus, what zetsu is on Obito.
Kakashi is seen crying when he stabs rin, meaning its the Real kakashi with Real emotions doing this, knowing he broke his promise.

I think they were placed in a situation like Nagato and Yahiko, where they were the REAL yahiko and nagato, no control, and nagata "killed" yahiko, after even promising himself he would do anything to protect Yahiko and Konan, he broke his promise too.

This is all events being used for Obito to awaken MS of course and to follow under Madara. but also the "real obito" will stay true to will of fire while the possessed zetsu obito will follow under Madara.

[Babce]

1.There are moments in the pages where kakashi and obito share vision which makes obito think that he is imagining it but he is not, which proves that kakashi is not a zetsu clone.
2.The mist ninja are zetsu clones that is why madara called them "mist guinea pigs" which means this is a zetsu ability experiment because probbably zetsu hasnt been doing much while madar has been slownly dying down there exept for scouting
3. that rin is not the real rin its also a zetsu clone or its a genjutsu that obito is in because him and madara made eye contact when madara asked him "are you leaving" so now you are thinking if its a genjutsu howcome they share vision well they are at the same place but have a difrent picture of it.

[ShockwavvE]

Rin a spy? lol.. interesting..

[Thane]

Rin a spy? lol.. interesting..

It's always the ones you don't suspect!

No but if Kakashi killed Rin willingly, then there's obviously a reason behind it. The simplest explanation I can think of is just that. Spy. Everyone trusts the medics...

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

It's always the ones you don't suspect!

No but if Kakashi killed Rin willingly, then there's obviously a reason behind it. The simplest explanation I can think of is just that. Spy. Everyone trusts the medics...

Yes that would explain why Kakashi killed Rin, and I agree to some extent. But it still doesnt explain how Obito could be standing a couple of feet away from Kakashi and not confront him then and there!

This is a thread to explain that part!

[Thane]

Yes that would explain why Kakashi killed Rin, and I agree to some extent. But it still doesnt explain how Obito could be standing a couple of feet away from Kakashi and not confront him then and there!

Aye. I made a thread about that. It probably has something to do with the Zetsu - Either it takes him back to Madara, or Obito attacks Kakashi and hides his face (although that wouldn't make his voice disappear, would it?)

Something will obviously keep Obito from confronting Kakashi...unless Kakashi has been evil this whole time and never said a word about trying to KILL Obito after he killed Rin!

Though somehow I doubt that.

I'm betting he'll go to Rin once Kakashi is gone. They'll share a sad, beautiful moment and BAM, Obito will go full tyrant. Of course that sounds far-fetched...I mean, I understand Obito getting mad but wouldn't he kill Kakashi rather than trying to create a dreamworld? He is an Uchiha after all...he has to swear vengeance on something...

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

Aye. I made a thread about that. It probably has something to do with the Zetsu - Either it takes him back to Madara, or Obito attacks Kakashi and hides his face (although that wouldn't make his voice disappear, would it?)

Something will obviously keep Obito from confronting Kakashi...unless Kakashi has been evil this whole time and never said a word about trying to KILL Obito after he killed Rin!

Though somehow I doubt that.

I'm betting he'll go to Rin once Kakashi is gone. They'll share a sad, beautiful moment and BAM, Obito will go full tyrant. Of course that sounds far-fetched...I mean, I understand Obito getting mad but wouldn't he kill Kakashi rather than trying to create a dreamworld? He is an Uchiha after all...he has to swear vengeance on something...

Far from far-fetched..that would be badass! Did I ever mention I love your theories? *****

And damn man, I almost feel sad for the Uchiha's(actually I always have, for Sasuke and Itachi at least), never free from vengeance! The curse is real! And all the good one's probably suffer the same fate as Itachi and Shisui!

Beautiful thing...this anime!

[Thane]

Far from far-fetched..that would be badass! Did I ever mention I love your theories? *****

And damn man, I almost feel sad for the Uchiha's(actually I always have, for Sasuke and Itachi at least), never free from vengeance! The curse is real! And all the good one's probably suffer the same fate as Itachi and Shisui!

Beautiful thing...this anime!

Why thank you! Kind words and high praise indeed! Your theories aren't bad either!

Honestly though I have never been sorry for the Uchiha. I have always hated the concept of the 'curse of hatred'. It makes no sense to me at all. I loved it much better when they were just an ordinary clan (albeit a powerful one) wiped out by the evil Itachi (whom I never thought was evil but still, I wished he was).

But yeah, this anime is beautiful. Even if there are many things I wish I could change, I still love it.

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

Why thank you! Kind words and high praise indeed! Your theories aren't bad either!

Honestly though I have never been sorry for the Uchiha. I have always hated the concept of the 'curse of hatred'. It makes no sense to me at all. I loved it much better when they were just an ordinary clan (albeit a powerful one) wiped out by the evil Itachi (whom I never thought was evil but still, I wished he was).

But yeah, this anime is beautiful. Even if there are many things I wish I could change, I still love it.

Just look at what happened to Obito when he was noble and good.....got crushed by a fukking boulder! Dont even mention Itachi!

Hatred is the only way they can lead a somewhat fulfilling life! But I guess thats where we differ, I love these concepts, actually I am a sucker for them! Plus this anime has great music! lol

But getting back on topic, you are probably right bro, as you are wayyy more rational and intelligent than I!

[BladerItachi]

Kakashi better have a very reasonable and good reason for killing Rin or else he is going down my list as the 3rd favourite character.

[ucHiHa xyN]

Kakashi is a good guy. Kishi will keep it that way I think.

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Kakashi is and always will be one of the main protagonists of the series. If he killed Rin, he must've done it with reason, now I don't know why people are crying about him killing her. We know nothing about her. People can cry all they want but it's obvious there's something behind this.

[lol99]

the hero image of kakashi has been damaged, if only a little

[Danzo Auditore De Firenze]

Maybe someone was controlling him or Rin turned evil and he had to kill her.

[~Madara Uchiha~]

lol i wasnt crying i was cheering and no it was probly a genjustsu or kakashi thought she was an enemy

[Shouten]

Kakashi attempted to go on second base with Rin, but he somehow forgot to turn off his Chidori.

[Lord Sasuke Ninja Way]

So killing with a reason is okay now?