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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

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    Well, the fact that white race conquered almost entire world may indicate that they were the first people on Earth.
    Actually that's completely wrong. Usually when a species dominates those in it's enviornment it's because it's the newest edition and the natural inhabitants don't have any adaptations to defend against the new invader. Eventually the dominated species will either die out or evolve and overthrow the newcomer.
     
         

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    Well, the fact that white race conquered almost entire world may indicate that they were the first people on Earth.
    Now this, is hilarious._O-
     
         

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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

    Read this please:


    Human are still humans.

    According to me, humans change appearance according to there surroundings, its like they evolve according to there region, example:

    *Asians - Descended from there ancestors who lived in the cold icy regions such as Antarctica or the North Pole, by harsh nature and continuous blizzards, they always had to frown or close there eyes when travelling, there surroundings was dangerous so they always had to think, one mistake or step in the wrong direction could cost there life.

    So because in these regions there was a lack of sun and heat, pigments production have been dropped to 30%, making them lighter in skin. The less pigments, the lighter the complexion.

    So there DNA was built for such regions, they grew into it.
    * African - Darkened skins come from excessive heat, pigments is produced by the sun and sweat. There more pigments, the more darker you're skin texture, africans are gifted with an athletic gene because of there ancestors method of hunting.


    So lets say Garden of Eden was a hot tropical place, working in the sun continuesly. I'd say Adam and Eve was a bit dark skinned like most Jews in Israel, thats IF Garden of Eden was located in that area.
     
         
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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

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    "So God created man in his own image...And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion ... over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

    It's much more likely that the white people were the recipients. Not an extraordinary evidence, but strongly supports it.
    How does the above statement "strongly support" that Adam and Eve were white?
     
         

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    Only God can answer this question
    i agree
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    I'm not here to argue with the athiests. I will, however, say that the racism that just recently popped up in the thread is quite shocking. -_-
     
         

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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

    Because God said so.

    Thou shalt not question the lord.
     
         

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    I know that much that they weren't christians and same time we're very advanced :3
    Maybe you are right, but why so much hating the christians?


    Most of people here don't get my argument and that's because they either fail to think of an abstraction or they're just flaming. I say the second one based on the responses. Idea of exploitation was clearly given by the God, and white ppl used it, that's all. It's not just about overthrowing others, it's more about achievements and development.
     
         

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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

    Adam and Eve were not white. The bible does not say what color they were but judging by how in the Bible it says God created Adam from the dust of the earth it makes sense that he would be a brown/tan color.

    Adam and Eve would have to have the information in their genes to produce the many different looks of people around the world. But the vastly different looks of people around the world would not have happened IMO until after the Tower of Babel. Because after that people moved around the world thus shrinking the genes to a handful of different groups of people. The bible says God confused everyone by making different languages. Thus only the people who can speak to each other would group up and move out and have children.

    The fact that monkeys and humans have such a huge difference in our Y chromosomes means that we are not related to them.(There is a 30% difference in chimp MSY regions) Evolutionists say that human Y chromosome is just evolving faster but have no proof of it.
     
         

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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

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    Well, the fact that white race conquered almost entire world may indicate that they were the first people on Earth.
     
         

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    Maybe you are right, but why so much hating the christians?


    Most of people here don't get my argument and that's because they either fail to think of an abstraction or they're just flaming. I say the second one based on the responses. Idea of exploitation was clearly given by the God, and white ppl used it, that's all. It's not just about overthrowing others, it's more about achievements and development.
    I didn't see to many atheists hating on christians here, but I did see plenty of people hating on you for your sheer lack of intelligence and just assuming things you know absolutely nothing about.
     
         

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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

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    I didn't see to many atheists hating on christians here, but I did see plenty of people hating on you for your sheer lack of intelligence and just assuming things you know absolutely nothing about.
    Christianity didn't have anything to do with the topic, yet people involved it in an argument. If you are so intelligent, then why are you even responding to these? You insult people with different opinion and you don't contribute to the topic anyhow.
     
         

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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

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    Maybe you are right, but why so much hating the christians?
    Just a heads up — when people bring history, biology, anthropology, paleontology or archeology in to a conversation — that just so happens to also negate a literal interpretation of the Bible — they are, in fact, NOT being anti-Christian.

    It's just that literalists don't have critical thinking skills when it comes to their own ideologies.


    Most of people here don't get my argument and that's because they either fail to think of an abstraction or they're just flaming. I say the second one based on the responses. Idea of exploitation was clearly given by the God, and white ppl used it, that's all. It's not just about overthrowing others, it's more about achievements and development.
    Alright, let's see if your hypothesis hold up to testing & evidence.

    QUESTION — When was the text in Genesis written?

    † Answer: In the 5th century BCE.

    It is clear from a thorough comparison of the texts of Genesis and the writings from ancient Egypt, that the Israelites took almost all of the elements from their creation myth from Egyptian mythology. In a further brake down and then reading of the the texts, Biblical Scholars have noted, show that the five books of the Pentateuch—Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy—came from four sources, the Yahwist, the Elohist, the Deuteronomist and the Priestly source, each telling the same basic story, and joined together by various editors. In other words YEDP were combined to create GELND.

    This leaves the question of when these works were created. Scholars in the first half of the 20th century came to the conclusion that the Yahwist was produced in the monarchic period, specifically at the court of Solomon, and the Priestly work in the middle of the 5th century BCE (the author was even identified as Ezra), but more recent thinking is that the Yahwist was written either just before or during the Babylonian exile of the 6th century, and the Priestly final edition was made late in the Exilic period or soon after.

    Scholars in the first half of the 20th century came to the conclusion that the Yahwist was produced in the monarchic period, specifically at the court of Solomon, and the Priestly work in the middle of the 5th century BC (the author was even identified as Ezra), but more recent thinking is that the Yahwist was written either just before or during the Babylonian exile of the 6th century, and the Priestly final edition was made late in the Exilic period or soon after.

    So as a point of fact — the text AS WE KNOW IT TODAY isn't more than 2600 years old. Certainly our world and indeed humanity is much older.

    QUESTION — Who were the first human beings and when did they live?

    † Answer: Homo sapiens & about 200,000 BCE

    Homo rhodesiensis arose in Africa an estimated 0.7 to 1 million years ago. The earliest estimates for Homo rhodesiensis reaching Europe are approximately 800 thousand years ago when a type of human referred to as Homo antecessor or H. cepranensis already inhabited the region. These two human types may be forerunners to the European H. heidelbergensis; however, stone tools dating from 1.2 to 1.56 million years ago of an unknown creator have been discovered in south-western Europe.

    Though, Human beings that were indistinguishable from any human being walking on the Earth today arose around .2 million years ago.

    QUESTION — What were the migration patters of early man?

    † Answer:



    QUESTION — What did the first cultures look like?

    † Answer: A herding, hunter & gatherer society with both patriarchal and matriarchal leanings. They worshiped both goddesses and gods. Bathed. Made tools, cloths, jewelry, cave art & had language. They had shaman & a relationship with the natural world so as to gain a general knowledge of plants.

    Not a conquering or pirating society.

    QUESTION — Were the first human beings caucasian?

    † Answer: Do a google search for weather white skin or darker skin, of any shade, is the genetic mutation in the human family and you will find out that in fact it is caucasian skin which is the mutation from skin tones with more melanin in them.

    This only makes sense considering that the pineal gland more than likely diminished the production of melatonin, which causes the pigment of melanin, in generations over time.

    QUESTION — Are you reading your own cultural influences in to the text in Genesis?

    † Answer: Yes.

    CHECK YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE!
     
         

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    Re: Question for Christians... No flaming

    Quote Originally Posted by ImmaculateShadow View Post
    Just a heads up — when people bring history, biology, anthropology, paleontology or archeology in to a conversation — that just so happens to also negate a literal interpretation of the Bible — they are, in fact, NOT being anti-Christian.

    It's just that literalists don't have critical thinking skills when it comes to their own ideologies.



    Alright, let's see if your hypothesis hold up to testing & evidence.

    QUESTION — When was the text in Genesis written?

    † Answer: In the 5th century BCE.

    It is clear from a thorough comparison of the texts of Genesis and the writings from ancient Egypt, that the Israelites took almost all of the elements from their creation myth from Egyptian mythology. In a further brake down and then reading of the the texts, Biblical Scholars have noted, show that the five books of the Pentateuch—Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy—came from four sources, the Yahwist, the Elohist, the Deuteronomist and the Priestly source, each telling the same basic story, and joined together by various editors. In other words YEDP were combined to create GELND.

    This leaves the question of when these works were created. Scholars in the first half of the 20th century came to the conclusion that the Yahwist was produced in the monarchic period, specifically at the court of Solomon, and the Priestly work in the middle of the 5th century BCE (the author was even identified as Ezra), but more recent thinking is that the Yahwist was written either just before or during the Babylonian exile of the 6th century, and the Priestly final edition was made late in the Exilic period or soon after.

    Scholars in the first half of the 20th century came to the conclusion that the Yahwist was produced in the monarchic period, specifically at the court of Solomon, and the Priestly work in the middle of the 5th century BC (the author was even identified as Ezra), but more recent thinking is that the Yahwist was written either just before or during the Babylonian exile of the 6th century, and the Priestly final edition was made late in the Exilic period or soon after.

    So as a point of fact — the text AS WE KNOW IT TODAY isn't more than 2600 years old. Certainly our world and indeed humanity is much older.

    QUESTION — Who were the first human beings and when did they live?

    † Answer: Homo sapiens & about 200,000 BCE

    Homo rhodesiensis arose in Africa an estimated 0.7 to 1 million years ago. The earliest estimates for Homo rhodesiensis reaching Europe are approximately 800 thousand years ago when a type of human referred to as Homo antecessor or H. cepranensis already inhabited the region. These two human types may be forerunners to the European H. heidelbergensis; however, stone tools dating from 1.2 to 1.56 million years ago of an unknown creator have been discovered in south-western Europe.

    Though, Human beings that were indistinguishable from any human being walking on the Earth today arose around .2 million years ago.

    QUESTION — What were the migration patters of early man?

    † Answer:



    QUESTION — What did the first cultures look like?

    † Answer: A herding, hunter & gatherer society with both patriarchal and matriarchal leanings. They worshiped both goddesses and gods. Bathed. Made tools, cloths, jewelry, cave art & had language. They had shaman & a relationship with the natural world so as to gain a general knowledge of plants.

    Not a conquering or pirating society.

    QUESTION — Were the first human beings caucasian?

    † Answer: Do a google search for weather white skin or darker skin, of any shade, is the genetic mutation in the human family and you will find out that in fact it is caucasian skin which is the mutation from skin tones with more melanin in them.

    This only makes sense considering that the pineal gland more than likely diminished the production of melatonin, which causes the pigment of melanin, in generations over time.

    QUESTION — Are you reading your own cultural influences in to the text in Genesis?

    † Answer: Yes.

    CHECK YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE!
    Christianity happened after the first human beings and genesis. Even you seem to agree with that, so what's the point of even mentioning to disprove of what I said. Following your thinking we may end up with the conclusion, that Jezus and that resurrection didn't happened, and it was a mere copy of hindu story with krishna. First people might have different skin tone, more tanned, but they shared one idea. Some of them went North some of them stayed, might have interacted with animals, stop the development. Anything might happened. Survival of the fittest. And don't try to tell me that it was first mentioned in 19th century, so it could happened before :P.

    I won't write anymore in this topic, so I just want to say that I know there is no extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claim that first ppl were white. I care less about skin, more about idea of progress which is apparently white.
     
         

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