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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Somethings not right with kakashi's right arm.(the arm he uses for chidori)
    On this page his right arm is missing the forearm gear.(hand to elbow) Take a look at his left arm that hand to elbow gear is there.



    In this pic where kakashi just received Obito's sharingan, he has his right arm has the forearm gear.(hand to elbow)

    Somethings very strange about the Kakashi thats killing rin
     
         
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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Not even close.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by sLm View Post
    Not even close.
    We will see next week.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoFan20 View Post
    We will see next week.
    He might be a clone, but having the headband on or not has absolutely nothing to do with it xD. He's been shown before without it.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Why does Rin say "Kakashi" then? Where is the real Kakashi if that's the real Rin? Zetsu kidnapped the real Kakashi?
    This must be true then because Rin has a headband = it must be real Rin according to your logic.
    If they aren't real the plot would suck. You'll see next week it isn't Zetsu
    Nothing with Obito makes sense unless they're both real. The shinobi system isn't cruel to Obito if it's Zetsu - Madara / Zetsu are. Why don't you people get it? This is his reason for turning bad:
    His one teammate having to kill the teammate he loves and him realizing Madara is right by his own mind. Madara is right, the shinobi world is wrong. That's what Obito is supposed to gain from the
    flashbacks
     
         
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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    I think it is more likely that rin would be the Zetsu. During the Kakashi Gaidan chapter when rin was captured Obito mentioned that Rin's chakra was different, http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/243/5
    but not knowing about Zetsu at the time just wrote it off as rin being under some kind of genjutsu, and since she was held captive right at madra's door step they could have made the switch there. I know it say that the Zetsu clone supposedly copy's the person right down the there chakra it could be possible that the sharingan can still see through it (just like Naruto can tell while he is in nine tails chakra mode)
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/544/14
    hence Obito noticing Rin's chakra was different while she was captured. So kakashi could have finally relized later on that that wasn't the real rin and killed her.
     
         
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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    If you look in that picture where kakashi killed rin, you can see that he's crying. I'm guessing she asked kakashi to do it for some reason unknown to us. Obito was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Obito probably wont say anything to kakashi, otherwise kakashi would know he was alive.

    Kakashi is going to talk-no-jutsu obito later.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Look summing up the basics it has highest possibility of being a clone, not due to a headband or anything, but simply because of the way he is dressed. Except for an arm guard on the arm he used chodori with, he looks exactly like he did, when they finished their mission, which is why it seems to be a clone. He should have been back at the village since, and would have been given a new headband, since he can't go on missions without..

    Also the entire situation is weird. Why would the 2 of them be alone in this area? There should be other Konoha shinobi as well, they never go on a 2 man mission, specially not children... Where are the mist shinobi etc? It looks like a battlefield as well. It doesn't look right, it seems like it has been staged.

    But then again knowing Kishi I think it's real. He will have some weird twist again...
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Nice FIND....It's either Rin was being controlled(Or maybe evil) Or maybe Kakashi fell under a genjutsu....
    It doesn't matter to me.....EITHER WAY,RIN DIES .... :D .. ..........+REP LOL
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoFan20 View Post
    Explain why he didn't have it in chapter 604 last page?
    idk why didn't he have it at the end of kakashi gaiden? HE MUST BE A ZETSU CLONE!!!
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoFan20 View Post
    Why isn't it reliable? I always go there to check out character jutsu and other stuff.
    its unreliable for the same reason you can't quote wikipedia in an essay. any old idiot can go and change anything on that site
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Nice find though i dont think that makes him a zetsu clone for reaons several other people have already said.....But i wish it was; anything to make it so that it wasnt really him that killed rin

    Anyway, +rep for attention to detail
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    its kakashi, its obito's sharingan in kakashi's head

    not a f*cking zetsu clone
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by SAmIDeXtEr View Post
    Nice FIND....It's either Rin was being controlled(Or maybe evil) Or maybe Kakashi fell under a genjutsu....
    It doesn't matter to me.....EITHER WAY,RIN DIES .... :D .. ..........+REP LOL
    thanks +rep back at you.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    He cant possibly be zetsu.. Zetsu cant copy jutsus coz Kakashi killed rin with chidori
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by konte811 View Post
    its unreliable for the same reason you can't quote wikipedia in an essay. any old idiot can go and change anything on that site
    who would use wikipedia for their essay? Not me
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciotra View Post
    Nice find though i dont think that makes him a zetsu clone for reaons several other people have already said.....But i wish it was; anything to make it so that it wasnt really him that killed rin

    Anyway, +rep for attention to detail
    Thanks +rep back at you.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post
    its kakashi, its obito's sharingan in kakashi's head

    not a f*cking zetsu clone
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scary Yamato View Post
    If you look in that picture where kakashi killed rin, you can see that he's crying. I'm guessing she asked kakashi to do it for some reason unknown to us. Obito was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Obito probably wont say anything to kakashi, otherwise kakashi would know he was alive.

    Kakashi is going to talk-no-jutsu obito later.
    Who said Zestu can't produce tears? They should be able to since they can produce blood.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    Look summing up the basics it has highest possibility of being a clone, not due to a headband or anything, but simply because of the way he is dressed. Except for an arm guard on the arm he used chodori with, he looks exactly like he did, when they finished their mission, which is why it seems to be a clone. He should have been back at the village since, and would have been given a new headband, since he can't go on missions without..

    Also the entire situation is weird. Why would the 2 of them be alone in this area? There should be other Konoha shinobi as well, they never go on a 2 man mission, specially not children... Where are the mist shinobi etc? It looks like a battlefield as well. It doesn't look right, it seems like it has been staged.

    But then again knowing Kishi I think it's real. He will have some weird twist again...
    True man +rep
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by shri3kbat View Post
    Why does Rin say "Kakashi" then? Where is the real Kakashi if that's the real Rin? Zetsu kidnapped the real Kakashi?
    This must be true then because Rin has a headband = it must be real Rin according to your logic.
    If they aren't real the plot would suck. You'll see next week it isn't Zetsu
    Nothing with Obito makes sense unless they're both real. The shinobi system isn't cruel to Obito if it's Zetsu - Madara / Zetsu are. Why don't you people get it? This is his reason for turning bad:
    His one teammate having to kill the teammate he loves and him realizing Madara is right by his own mind. Madara is right, the shinobi world is wrong. That's what Obito is supposed to gain from the
    flashbacks
    Ya agreed Rin is not a zetsu clone. But Kakashi killing her like that when he made a promise to Obito. Possible that kakashi is a zetsu clone.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Odemgee View Post
    I think it is more likely that rin would be the Zetsu. During the Kakashi Gaidan chapter when rin was captured Obito mentioned that Rin's chakra was different, http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/243/5
    but not knowing about Zetsu at the time just wrote it off as rin being under some kind of genjutsu, and since she was held captive right at madra's door step they could have made the switch there. I know it say that the Zetsu clone supposedly copy's the person right down the there chakra it could be possible that the sharingan can still see through it (just like Naruto can tell while he is in nine tails chakra mode)

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/544/14
    hence Obito noticing Rin's chakra was different while she was captured. So kakashi could have finally relized later on that that wasn't the real rin and killed her.
    Nice theory but Rin being a zetsu clone is not possible. When the fake Kakashi in chapter 604 pierced her in the chest she was shocked like "why kakashi". Then the fake kakashi shed a tear making it seem its really him.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Castobi View Post
    He cant possibly be zetsu.. Zetsu cant copy jutsus coz Kakashi killed rin with chidori
    Hmmm. What do you think of this? This zetsu clone of Kisame was about to perform a water style jutsu before he got beheaded.

     
         
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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    I am certain it was caused by some sort of jutsu used by a mist shinobi.
     
         

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    Re: The Kakashi in Chapter 604 has no headband. So he's a zetsu clone?

    + reps. Could be important. Its too early to tell but there is mounting evidence that either kakashi was a clone or he didnt willingly do that. I never bought the anbu mission theory, cuz kakashi would have been close to danzo if he did missions like that.
     
         

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