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    What is Illuminati exactly??

    Yes I know that a thread has already been made on this topic but it has created some sort of tension and intrigued alot of people making them curious to know what this phenomenon actually is.

    So this thread is basically my perception of illuminati along with some elaboration compared to the other thread and if anyone what's to mention or add anything, it would be interesting to know.

    Anyway, as much as I know or so i've researched is that the illuminati is a deceptive cult that's long-term goal is to manipulate the world and eventually make it evil. We can already observe, analyze and conclude that this is already happening. I was also skeptical like any other person that just hears few words of truth about the illuminati. One of it's objectives is to destroy religion and slowly we can see that this is also happening. Alot of people are becoming atheists(non-religious). There are also a few guys I know and some friends that I have with ancestors who were once christians and muslims but they themselves are now atheist. The biggest tool that this illuminati movement use is the Media.

    The Media is the most effective tool that they have and the main one that is used to deceive people and encourage them to do things that are either against their morals or simply have an evil outcome. They control many industries and organizations. A few are: Music Industry, Pornographic Industry and the Film Industry. I mean they are pretty much poisoning everybody's mind that are alive around the world and they are succeeding in what they're doing.

    Here are few pictures associated with this so-called satanic cult.






    As for the 3 religions associated with this illuminati cult. They say the zionist jews are behind all of this. They seem to be working from within the shadows while the light that's infront of them appears to be colourful and attractive. < I'm referring to the content which their industries have that seem colourful and very attractive. This is probably the best analogy that I've come up with about them. Adding everything up, it means that the source of this evil is the religion of Judaism. Now I'm not stereotypical so i'm not gonna blame every jew because not every jew is a zionist and not every jew support the works of evil. However, it seems to be that a group of zionist jews are plotting to destroy other religions but mainly the religions of Christianity and Islam. But what's shown in the Media is propaganda against Islam and nothing much about Christianity. As far as I know, they've already destroyed the religion of Christianity. Not all christians are pious and loyal anymore. They're religion is pretty much unstable. Now these zionist jews are concentrating on Islam because they know that the system in Islam is firm and they've always had a grudge against muslims and hated them more than christians.


    Some muslim scholars and philosophers know that this is happening and why it's happening since they relate it to the time of their Prophet Solomon up till the time of their Prophet Muhammad. But the relationship between muslims and jews doesn't stop their because the jews also used to live in the lands that were governed by muslims. They've stated that the jews used to conspire against the muslims and stir wars against muslims, from the times of Ottoman Empire till the 21st century conflict in Palestine. I still don't know much about the relationship between the christians and jews but I would appreciate it if someone can PM some information regarding this.

    If your still not sure about Illuminati or still don't believe in it, you might wonna think to your self again about a few negative factors that exist in this world. Take Crime as one. What might cause a sane person to become insane and kill a couple of innocent people? What might cause an honest, humble and modest person to steal, become arrogant and lie as well as deceive people? Isn't it the same answer to all of the negative things of the world..the Media! Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?


    So if the Illuminati is destroying the world, what do we have to say about this??

    What can we do to put a permanent end to this evil and bring peace and happiness once again to our world??
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Not real.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Most people think its a load of bullshit.
    I do
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

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    Not real.
    didnt read huh? :D
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    You don't know that
    I'm not saying they are real, but you can't just say they aren't real
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by Shunsin no Shisui View Post
    Yes I know that a thread has already been made on this topic but it has created some sort of tension and intrigued alot of people making them curious to know what this phenomenon actually is.

    So this thread is basically my perception of illuminati along with some elaboration compared to the other thread and if anyone what's to mention or add anything, it would be interesting to know.

    Anyway, as much as I know or so i've researched is that the illuminati is a deceptive cult that's long-term goal is to manipulate the world and eventually make it evil. We can already observe, analyze and conclude that this is already happening. I was also skeptical like any other person that just hears few words of truth about the illuminati. One of it's objectives is to destroy religion and slowly we can see that this is also happening. Alot of people are becoming atheists(non-religious). There are also a few guys I know and some friends that I have with ancestors who were once christians and muslims but they themselves are now atheist. The biggest tool that this illuminati movement use is the Media.

    The Media is the most effective tool that they have and the main one that is used to deceive people and encourage them to do things that are either against their morals or simply have an evil outcome. They control many industries and organizations. A few are: Music Industry, Pornographic Industry and the Film Industry. I mean they are pretty much poisoning everybody's mind that are alive around the world and they are succeeding in what they're doing.

    Here are few pictures associated with this so-called satanic cult.






    As for the 3 religions associated with this illuminati cult. They say the zionist jews are behind all of this. They seem to be working from within the shadows while the light that's infront of them appears to be colourful and attractive. < I'm referring to the content which their industries have that seem colourful and very attractive. This is probably the best analogy that I've come up with about them. Adding everything up, it means that the source of this evil is the religion of Judaism. Now I'm not stereotypical so i'm not gonna blame every jew because not every jew is a zionist and not every jew support the works of evil. However, it seems to be that a group of zionist jews are plotting to destroy other religions but mainly the religions of Christianity and Islam. But what's shown in the Media is propaganda against Islam and nothing much about Christianity. As far as I know, they've already destroyed the religion of Christianity. Not all christians are pious and loyal anymore. They're religion is pretty much unstable. Now these zionist jews are concentrating on Islam because they know that the system in Islam is firm and they've always had a grudge against muslims and hated them more than christians.


    Some muslim scholars and philosophers know that this is happening and why it's happening since they relate it to the time of their Prophet Solomon up till the time of their Prophet Muhammad. But the relationship between muslims and jews doesn't stop their because the jews also used to live in the lands that were governed by muslims. They've stated that the jews used to conspire against the muslims and stir wars against muslims, from the times of Ottoman Empire till the 21st century conflict in Palestine. I still don't know much about the relationship between the christians and jews but I would appreciate it if someone can PM some information regarding this.

    If your still not sure about Illuminati or still don't believe in it, you might wonna think to your self again about a few negative factors that exist in this world. Take Crime as one. What might cause a sane person to become insane and kill a couple of innocent people? What might cause an honest, humble and modest person to steal, become arrogant and lie as well as deceive people? Isn't it the same answer to all of the negative things of the world..the Media! Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?


    So if the Illuminati is destroying the world, what do we have to say about this??

    What can we do to put a permanent end to this evil and bring peace and happiness once again to our world??

    If you believe this then seriously...you're an idiot.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by nightfury028 View Post
    didnt read huh? :D
    I don't need to. That whole idea is totally insane.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by CleverMonkey View Post
    You don't know that
    I'm not saying they are real, but you can't just say they aren't real
    Exactly
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobisagoodboy12 View Post
    Most people think its a load of bullshit.
    I do
    They don't know what it's about that's why? You should read the thread again with more attentiveness perhaps. I've pretty much made it clear how the Illuminati is real and how it is destroying our world, so there is no need to explain anything more to you...For now that is.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaseIsBest View Post
    If you believe this then seriously...you're an idiot.
    Look who's talking. A person that is completely dwelled in the happiness and luxury of what this world offers and is likely to be a victim of this satanic cult.
     
         
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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Look Illuminati or whatever it is called, i don't know if it's exactly the same as the 'internet stuff' explains it to be. But there are definitly people behind the scene controlling the ones that we see as worldleaders such as: Presidents like Obama, Kings & Queens, Dictators etc. The ones that are in the shadows and the ones that give orders. I think most of us know and believe that. But if it's called Illuminati and the music industry and all the other stuff, i don't know if it's true or not, but the leaders in the shadows those are real, believe it.

    Just like tobi. None of us did exspect tobi to be the one that controls the Akatsuki and the objectives to capture tailed beasts to be part of his plan.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    1. If religion is being destroyed, maybe it's a good thing. Religion is responsible for the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, 9/11, Muslim radicals, Christian radicals, etc.

    2. I got to the Jew part. Really? Really?

    3. The media makes people evil? REALLY? Not personal traumas that make people go insane, not a need to provide for your family which creates petty theft, and people themselves? People are evil. They're born evil. There is a very few people who have ever lived that weren't evil in some way.

    4. I obviously reread the OP and I still think you're full of shit.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Nice job on the argument, I myself am personally on the fence about the whole thing, not really sure whether to believe that they exist or not.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by SKTupac View Post
    Look Illuminati or whatever it is called, i don't know if it's exactly the same as the 'internet stuff' explains it to be. But there are definitly people behind the scene controlling the ones that we see as worldleaders such as: Presidents like Obama, Kings & Queens, Dictators etc. The ones that are in the shadows and the ones that give orders. I think most of us know and believe that. But if it's called Illuminati and the music industry and all the other stuff, i don't know if it's true or not, but the leaders in the shadows those are real, believe it.

    Just like tobi. None of us did exspect tobi to be the one that controls the Akatsuki and the objectives to capture tailed beasts to be part of his plan.
    Precisely, I'm glad someone's understood the message I displayed and linked it to Naruto as well Which reminds me, there were a couple of other things which I forgot to mention like the celebrities as the puppets of Illuminati which they use to corrupt the minds of people and the subliminal messages in cartoons, movies as well as animes

    Don't worry if your still kinda confused. All of those things connect.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by ekichi onizuka View Post
    for people who don't believe in this are naif
    Yeah. Naif. We're the ones who're naive. Not the guys who believe in a religion-destroying, Zionist, media controlling, world governing, pure evil, nation manipulating, all powerful organization who has the entire world on puppet strings. If the Illuminati does exist, which it doesn't, then how can you even fight something like that? You can't.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    i dont care if its real or not, as long as i have a wife, kids, and a decent job i could give a **** what is destroying the world.
    OP's on that akatsuki swingin swag right now, lol.
    about people not being religious, pious or faithful. thats silly to blame that on a top secret organization. you should blame that on how people are naturally, at their most instinctual level. of course you reject things you dont like.
    the dollar bill.
    the dollar bill is actually based off of freemasonry and the masons, to say that they are leading the illuminati is well, kinda out there. possible but not plausible.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    1. If religion is being destroyed, maybe it's a good thing. Religion is responsible for the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, 9/11, Muslim radicals, Christian radicals, etc.

    2. I got to the Jew part. Really? Really?

    3. The media makes people evil? REALLY? Not personal traumas that make people go insane, not a need to provide for your family which creates petty theft, and people themselves? People are evil. They're born evil. There is a very few people who have ever lived that weren't evil in some way.

    4. I obviously reread the OP and I still think you're full of shit.
    You still don't get it do you? What is the purpose of religion. Religion is established so that people would be civilized and live their lives well. Believe me, what's happening now is far more worse than all of the conflicts and wars of the past that have occured involving religion. Back then, there were still good people along with bad people in every religion. But what's happening now is that the world is being drawn to becoming an evil and uncivilized abode. Majority are being driven to becoming evil and corrupt while the minority that are left good, will just get swept away. So there was a balance then like Yin and Yang but now the world is becoming inbalanced.

    So "Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?" Is it not possible for the media(that manipulates your mind) to give you psychological traumas(excluding genetic diseases) and make you psychotic?? Man, YOU must be insane?!

    Believe what you wonna believe and remain ignorant. You will suffer in the end, eventually.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by Shunsin no Shisui View Post
    You still don't get it do you? What is the purpose of religion. Religion is established so that people would be civilized and live their lives well. Believe me, what's happening now is far more worse than all of the conflicts and wars of the past that have occured involving religion. Back then, there were still good people along with bad people in every religion. But what's happening now is that the world is being drawn to becoming an evil and uncivilized abode. Majority are being driven to becoming evil and corrupt while the minority that are left good, will just get swept away. So there was a balance then like Yin and Yang but now the world is becoming inbalanced.

    So your "Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?" Is it not possible for the media(that manipulates your mind) to give you psychological traumas(excluding genetic diseases) and make you psychotic?? Man, YOU must be insane?!

    Believe what you wonna believe and remain ignorant. You will suffer in the end, eventually.
    Again: Yeah. Naif. We're the ones who're naive. Not the guys who believe in a religion-destroying, Zionist, media controlling, world governing, pure evil, nation manipulating, all powerful organization who has the entire world on puppet strings. If the Illuminati does exist, which it doesn't, then how can you even fight something like that? You can't.

    Have fun being terrified of a made-up organization. Here's some more friendly advice, don't be afraid of the Boogeyman. If he can't sense your fear he can't get you or something like that.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by Shunsin no Shisui View Post
    You still don't get it do you? What is the purpose of religion. Religion is established so that people would be civilized and live their lives well. Believe me, what's happening now is far more worse than all of the conflicts and wars of the past that have occured involving religion. Back then, there were still good people along with bad people in every religion. But what's happening now is that the world is being drawn to becoming an evil and uncivilized abode. Majority are being driven to becoming evil and corrupt while the minority that are left good, will just get swept away. So there was a balance then like Yin and Yang but now the world is becoming inbalanced.

    So "Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?" Is it not possible for the media(that manipulates your mind) to give you psychological traumas(excluding genetic diseases) and make you psychotic?? Man, YOU must be insane?!

    Believe what you wonna believe and remain ignorant. You will suffer in the end, eventually.
    lol. you been watching too much naruto.
    its kinda funny though. you believe were being controlled by this top secret organization but you dont think religion is a form of control? do you really think religion exists to make us "better" people? im not religious, but i pride myself in my sense of honor, love, respect and integrity i hold for the human being.
    to me it sounds like youre the one whos naive.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by Shunsin no Shisui View Post
    You still don't get it do you? What is the purpose of religion. Religion is established so that people would be civilized and live their lives well. Believe me, what's happening now is far more worse than all of the conflicts and wars of the past that have occured involving religion. Back then, there were still good people along with bad people in every religion. But what's happening now is that the world is being drawn to becoming an evil and uncivilized abode. Majority are being driven to becoming evil and corrupt while the minority that are left good, will just get swept away. So there was a balance then like Yin and Yang but now the world is becoming inbalanced.

    So "Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?" Is it not possible for the media(that manipulates your mind) to give you psychological traumas(excluding genetic diseases) and make you psychotic?? Man, YOU must be insane?!

    Believe what you wonna believe and remain ignorant. You will suffer in the end, eventually.
    When exactly have people been civilized? During the Stone age? In ancient Greece and Rome, when wars were common thing, when pedophilia was one of the rich people's entertainment? Or maybe during the Middle Age, when people hardly had anything to eat, when people were burnt for thinking logically? Or maybe it was during the modern age, when there were two world wars started for stupidest of reasons?

    Oh, so you know, violence has always existed in books and in people's life, so what? Who was to blame for that? Illuminati? Did they existed 2000 years ago? 1000 years ago? You simply lack idea of the past period and thing that the current one is the worst and "evilest".

    Now, on topic, I do believe that the world is controlled, media is controlled, politics are controlled, but that doesn't mean that they mean you any "evil". Of course, what is exactly evil?
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    A lot of people here are ignorant,just to say it's bullshit like that, with backhand, it requires still a high level of ignorance, arrogance and stupidity.



     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by narutokage99 View Post
    A lot of people here are ignorant,just to say it's bullshit like that, with backhand, it requires still a high level of ignorance, arrogance and stupidity.
    All conspiracy theory's.
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    well its real it once was a secrety society bent on controlling the world yet they were stopped over 200 years ago for having plans of world domination, but there still in the shadows controlling the world with strings
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    it is a conspiracy theory that those who spend too much time on the internet and too little time in the real world believe for some reason ... never meet a serious educated guy who bought it, again, for some strange reason

    can anyone guess the reason?
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    Again: Yeah. Naif. We're the ones who're naive. Not the guys who believe in a religion-destroying, Zionist, media controlling, world governing, pure evil, nation manipulating, all powerful organization who has the entire world on puppet strings. If the Illuminati does exist, which it doesn't, then how can you even fight something like that? You can't.

    Have fun being terrified of a made-up organization. Here's some more friendly advice, don't be afraid of the Boogeyman. If he can't sense your fear he can't get you or something like that.
    You sound really helpless and weak. People can do something about it if they know what to do and if they have the required support needed so that it's sufficient enough to destroy such evil. I don't believe in fictional things like boogeyman or zombies like you. That's what you call bullshit. To know about the truth and existance about the illuminati cult one needs to have intelligence, something which you lack.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeniusStyleUser View Post
    lol. you been watching too much naruto.
    its kinda funny though. you believe were being controlled by this top secret organization but you dont think religion is a form of control? do you really think religion exists to make us "better" people? im not religious, but i pride myself in my sense of honor, love, respect and integrity i hold for the human being.
    to me it sounds like youre the one whos naive.
    You lack knowledge in such things. How do we know that you've not become a better person because of religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pesh View Post
    When exactly have people been civilized? During the Stone age? In ancient Greece and Rome, when wars were common thing, when pedophilia was one of the rich people's entertainment? Or maybe during the Middle Age, when people hardly had anything to eat, when people were burnt for thinking logically? Or maybe it was during the modern age, when there were two world wars started for stupidest of reasons?

    Oh, so you know, violence has always existed in books and in people's life, so what? Who was to blame for that? Illuminati? Did they existed 2000 years ago? 1000 years ago? You simply lack idea of the past period and thing that the current one is the worst and "evilest".

    Now, on topic, I do believe that the world is controlled, media is controlled, politics are controlled, but that doesn't mean that they mean you any "evil". Of course, what is exactly evil?
    I have in mind that Islam is the only religion that is established for the sole purpose helping it's believers become civilized human beings and not like animals. Islam is a strict and organized religion that also encourages love and respect equally. Before the 21st century which could also be considered the 'golden age of illuminati', there were muslims who followed their religion properly and were much more civilized that any other type of people. Unlike the Romans and those before them, they wore clothes and gave women and the non-muslims that lived among them equal rights and respected them.

    I've just explained everything on the thread and you still repeat the same questions. War has always existed and so why would it be unusual to you if it still exists now. I don't see why you include war?

    Maan, there are alot of ignorant people on this thread!? :sy:
     
         

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    Re: What is Illuminati exactly??

    ...Look, there are no secret societies, we've been to the moon, Hitler died in that room, it was just some crazy dude that shot JFK and for heaven's sake there are no aliens. C'mon people.
     
         

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