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[Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
*Waits for a kind friend and a good sempai* :D
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
Helloooo.
You have no training whatsoever in Wind, correct?
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Helloooo.
You have no training whatsoever in Wind, correct?
Indeed.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
Indeed.
Okays, this should be fun. o_o
Alright, so, since we're learning wind, I would like you to sit down here and meditate, feel the breeze blow the leaves around you and feel the cold wind blowing past you, whilst you're meditating. Relax your body and breath calmly, as you feel the breeze, tell me all you know about wind, it's weaknesses, strengths and what you feel it's neutral to/against.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Okays, this should be fun. o_o
Alright, so, since we're learning wind, I would like you to sit down here and meditate, feel the breeze blow the leaves around you and feel the cold wind blowing past you, whilst you're meditating. Relax your body and breath calmly, as you feel the breeze, tell me all you know about wind, it's weaknesses, strengths and what you feel it's neutral to/against.
I sit down and begin to meditate, allowing the breeze to blow the leaves around me. I allow the cold win to blow again me, while I meditate. I relax and breath calmly as I feel the breeze.
Wind is strong against lightning because wind is a natural electrical insulator, therefore, not allowing electricity to conduct through it, rendering the lightning technique useless. Wind is weak to fire because the flames are fuelled by air, thus increasing the fire technique's power rather than weakening it. I think wind is neutral to water and earth.
A weakness of wind is that it can be used against you if the opponent utilizes fire release/style.
A strength of wind is that it has the power to blow away annoying objects like kunais and/or Shuriken.
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Last edited by -Logic-; 08-22-2012 at 06:43 PM.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
I sit down and begin to meditate, allowing the breeze to blow the leaves around me. I allow the cold win to blow again me, while I meditate. I relax and breath calmly as I feel the breeze.
Wind is strong against lightning because wind is a natural electrical insulator, therefore, not allowing electricity to conduct through it, rendering the lightning technique useless. Wind is weak to fire because the flames are fuelled by air, thus increasing the fire technique's power rather than weakening it. I think wind is neutral to water and earth.
A weakness of wind is that it can be used against you if the opponent utilizes fire release/style.
A strength of wind is that it has the power to blow away annoying objects like kunais and/or Shuriken.
More or less right, however, the bold is wrong. Yes wind is weak to fire, but if you use a Wind jutsu and your opponent responds with a Fire, then his fire would overpower your wind and continue towards you at a weakened state, it doesn't get stronger.
For example, if you send out an A-rank Wind jutsu and your opponent responds with an A-ranked Fire, his fire would continue towards you as a B-rank fire jutsu, so it is weakened but it still continues. The only time a Wind would give more strength to a Fire is when it's added to it from the same side. So in something like a 2vs2, where you and your partner would release a Wind and Fire combo. But if it's from opposing sides, the Fire doesn't get stronger.
As for the Earth and Water, it's neutral to both. So A-rank Wind = A-rank Water /Earth.
Any questions? Also, do you know how weaknesses and strengths work? Like the ranks things continue as when colliding with something weaker/stronger than them? etc.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
More or less right, however, the bold is wrong. Yes wind is weak to fire, but if you use a Wind jutsu and your opponent responds with a Fire, then his fire would overpower your wind and continue towards you at a weakened state, it doesn't get stronger.
For example, if you send out an A-rank Wind jutsu and your opponent responds with an A-ranked Fire, his fire would continue towards you as a B-rank fire jutsu, so it is weakened but it still continies. The only time a Wind would give more strength to a Fire is when it's added to it from the same side. So in something like a 2vs2, where you and your partner would release a Wind and Fire combo. But if it's from opposing sides, the Fire doesn't get stronger.
As for the Earth and Water, it's neutral to both. So A-rank Wind = A-rank Water /Earth.
Any questions? Also, do you know how weaknesses and strengths work? Like the ranks things continue as when colliding with something weaker/stronger than them? etc.
I didn't know about the fire/wind thing, thank you for enlightening me :D. And yes, I've read Izuna's elemental combinations thread time and time again. :D
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
I didn't know about the fire/wind thing, thank you for enlightening me :D. And yes, I've read Izuna's elemental combinations thread time and time again. :D
Well that saves you some time. 
Okie, we'll get started with the first jutsu then.
If you -at any time- have a question regarding anything (regardless of what it is), feel free to ask.
For the first jutsu, I want you to concentrate on your wind chakra and channel it towards your mouth, I then need you to release a gust of wind from your mouth and towards your opponent. This can be used in 2 ways.
You can either use it to temporarily blind your opponent by lodging sand/small particles of earth/rock from the ground as the wind would gather them on it's way to your opponent.
Or you can also use it to loosen the layer of sand and dust on trees causing your opponent to lose their balance if trying to jump onto that tree bark on which you've used the jutsu on. So it's more or less a sort of trap used to catch your opponent out.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Well that saves you some time.
Okie, we'll get started with the first jutsu then.
If you -at any time- have a question regarding anything (regardless of what it is), feel free to ask.
For the first jutsu, I want you to concentrate on your wind chakra and channel it towards your mouth, I then need you to release a gust of wind from your mouth and towards your opponent. This can be used in 2 ways.
You can either use it to temporarily blind your opponent by lodging sand/small particles of earth/rock from the ground as the wind would gather them on it's way to your opponent.
Or you can also use it to loosen the layer of sand and dust on trees causing your opponent to lose their balance if trying to jump onto that tree bark on which you've used the jutsu on. So it's more or less a sort of trap used to catch your opponent out.
I see, how's this? 
I concentrate my wind chakra and channel it towards my mouth, I then need release a gust of wind from my mouth and towards my opponent (your cone? ).
Thanks for the useful information on how to use it Erzo. :D
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
I see, how's this?
I concentrate my wind chakra and channel it towards my mouth, I then need release a gust of wind from my mouth and towards my opponent (your cone?  ).
Thanks for the useful information on how to use it Erzo. :D
Just stating on how it was used. ^^
*Small gust of wind comes out*
Not good enough! Add more chakra and gather it in your mouth before you release it. Remember the gust of wind needs to at least be strong enough to pick up particles of Earth and rock form the ground so that you can lodge it into an opponents eyes.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Just stating on how it was used. ^^
*Small gust of wind comes out*
Not good enough! Add more chakra and gather it in your mouth before you release it. Remember the gust of wind needs to at least be strong enough to pick up particles of Earth and rock form the ground so that you can lodge it into an opponents eyes.
I concentrate my wind chakra and channel it towards my mouth, this time, applying more chakra to increase the power and size, I then need release a gust of wind from my mouth and towards my opponent.
Any better? :D
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
I concentrate my wind chakra and channel it towards my mouth, this time, applying more chakra to increase the power and size, I then need release a gust of wind from my mouth and towards my opponent.
Any better? :D
For now. 
For the next jutsu, I want you to concentrate your wind chakra in your mouth once again and release it as a gust of wind which you then manipulate so that it spins in front of you, as a wall made of wind, being able to deflect weapons or people if needed.
However, you'd need to be careful with it since if someone throws a smoke bomb or explosive tag into the spinning wall, it becomes activated and it could damage the you (the user). So you'd need to make sure to not use it on explosive tagged Kunais since you'd end up harming yourself.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
For now.
For the next jutsu, I want you to concentrate your wind chakra in your mouth once again and release it as a gust of wind which you then manipulate so that it spins in front of you, as a wall made of wind, being able to deflect weapons or people if needed.
However, you'd need to be careful with it since if someone throws a smoke bomb or explosive tag into the spinning wall, it becomes activated and it could damage the you (the user). So you'd need to make sure to not use it on explosive tagged Kunais since you'd end up harming yourself.
I concentrate my wind chakra in my mouth once again and release it as a gust of wind which I then manipulate so that it spins in front of me, creating a wall of wind, which is able to deflect weapons or people if needed.
You like? :D
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
I concentrate my wind chakra in my mouth once again and release it as a gust of wind which I then manipulate so that it spins in front of me, creating a wall of wind, which is able to deflect weapons or people if needed.
You like? :D
Good enough 
The next jutsu is really simple. I want you to simply concentrate on your wind chakra and release it through your mouth as a stream of wind, you can use this wind to change directions whilst in mid air, by changing directions you can avoid certain jutsus. So for now I want you to simply do what I've asked and see how it goes.
However, just so you know, you can only use this whilst in air. And you can't face the ground and spew out the wind in order to take off the ground with this jutsu. Basically if you're on the ground, the most this jutsu will do is create some dust.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Good enough
The next jutsu is really simple. I want you to simply concentrate on your wind chakra and release it through your mouth as a stream of wind, you can use this wind to change directions whilst in mid air, by changing directions you can avoid certain jutsus. So for now I want you to simply do what I've asked and see how it goes.
However, just so you know, you can only use this whilst in air. And you can't face the ground and spew out the wind in order to take off the ground with this jutsu. Basically if you're on the ground, the most this jutsu will do is create some dust.
kk, I got it.
I concentrate on my wind chakra and release it through my mouth as a stream of wind, using my shape manipulation to make it thin. I then by changing directions try to avoid jutsu.
Itachi: Eh, you like?
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
kk, I got it.
I concentrate on my wind chakra and release it through my mouth as a stream of wind, using my shape manipulation to make it thin. I then by changing directions try to avoid jutsu.
Itachi: Eh, you like? 
*Moves you slowly and your change of direction is hardly noticeable*
Nyu, try again.
*Creates an Earth pillar which launches you into the air and throws Kunais at you*
Now gather more chakra and try the jutsu again, use it to change your direction and avoid the kunais!!
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
*Moves you slowly and your change of direction is hardly noticeable*
Nyu, try again.
*Creates an Earth pillar which launches you into the air and throws Kunais at you*
Now gather more chakra and try the jutsu again, use it to change your direction and avoid the kunais!!
Man, I hate when sempais pull this crap lol 
As you earth pillar is created and launches me into the air I concentrate on my wind chakra and release it through my mouth as a stream of wind, using my shape manipulation to make it thin, but I channel a little more chakra in order for it to have any real effect. I then by blowing out the wind in a certain direction allow myself to dodge your kunais.
Itachi: Close one :ghehe:
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
Man, I hate when sempais pull this crap lol
As you earth pillar is created and launches me into the air I concentrate on my wind chakra and release it through my mouth as a stream of wind, using my shape manipulation to make it thin, but I channel a little more chakra in order for it to have any real effect. I then by blowing out the wind in a certain direction allow myself to dodge your kunais.
Itachi: Close one :ghehe:
Maybe you should have put effort in performing it in the first place. :P
Jutsu:
For the next jutsu, I want you to release your wind chakra and create a huge stream wind which carries rocks which go on to lift my clone up into the air, the rocks will then hit my clone whilst he is airborne.
-Creates a clone-
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Maybe you should have put effort in performing it in the first place. :P
Jutsu:
For the next jutsu, I want you to release your wind chakra and create a huge stream wind which carries rocks which go on to lift my clone up into the air, the rocks will then hit my clone whilst he is airborne.
-Creates a clone-
Sorry sempai .
I release my wind chakra to create a huge stream of wind, which I put plenty of chakra into to make SURE that it carries the rocks infront of me which lifts your clone into the air where the rocks will hit them whilst he is airborne.
Itachi: Aww yeah.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
Sorry sempai  .
I release my wind chakra to create a huge stream of wind, which I put plenty of chakra into to make SURE that it carries the rocks infront of me which lifts your clone into the air where the rocks will hit them whilst he is airborne.
Itachi: Aww yeah. 
Better:
Now onto the C-ranks.
For this jutsu, I want you to clap your hands together and channel your wind chakra to your palms compressing the wind chakra and releasing it as a powerful wave of wind, when released/used by itself it has enough power to knock over a human, when used with a kunai it can increase it's speed and power considerably.
So try both of the ways on my clones, first without kunais so just knocking my clone over, then the second time you do it, use a kunai and make sure to disperse him. I want a detailed description so don't rush. >.>'
-Makes a clone-
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Better:
Now onto the C-ranks.
For this jutsu, I want you to clap your hands together and channel your wind chakra to your palms compressing the wind chakra and releasing it as a powerful wave of wind, when released/used by itself it has enough power to knock over a human, when used with a kunai it can increase it's speed and power considerably.
So try both of the ways on my clones, first without kunais so just knocking my clone over, then the second time you do it, use a kunai and make sure to disperse him. I want a detailed description so don't rush. >.>'
-Makes a clone-
I clap my hands together, keeping in mind my fuuton chakra and imagining the technique itself, i allow the wind to be compressed and transformed into a powerful gale. I know that with this technique, when used as an isolated attack has the power to easily knock over a human, so with this in mind, I perform the technique knocking over your clone succesfully.
Itachi: Ha ha! (like that simpsons kid says it)
I clap my hands together, keeping in mind my fuuton chakra and imagining the technique itself, i allow the wind to be compressed and transformed into a powerful gale. I know that the true value comes from using it together with projectile weapons like shuriken or kunai. Their speed, power, and ability to wound or even kill are all increased several times. So with this in mind I channel my fuuton chakra into my kunai and allow it to swing with extra speed, power and cutting edge ability and slice your clone up.
Itachi: Awww yeah!
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
I clap my hands together, keeping in mind my fuuton chakra and imagining the technique itself, i allow the wind to be compressed and transformed into a powerful gale. I know that with this technique, when used as an isolated attack has the power to easily knock over a human, so with this in mind, I perform the technique knocking over your clone succesfully.
Itachi: Ha ha! (like that simpsons kid says it)
I clap my hands together, keeping in mind my fuuton chakra and imagining the technique itself, i allow the wind to be compressed and transformed into a powerful gale. I know that the true value comes from using it together with projectile weapons like shuriken or kunai. Their speed, power, and ability to wound or even kill are all increased several times. So with this in mind I channel my fuuton chakra into my kunai and allow it to swing with extra speed, power and cutting edge ability and slice your clone up.
Itachi: Awww yeah! 
Nice job.
For the next jutsu, I want you to infuse your bladed weapons with wind and further manipulate the blades in a spinning manner to attack the target. So the blades would be spinning and kind of floating around your body before you send them towards your opponent.
-Makes a clone-
Send the blades towards my clone! >
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Nice job.
For the next jutsu, I want you to infuse your bladed weapons with wind and further manipulate the blades in a spinning manner to attack the target. So the blades would be spinning and kind of floating around your body before you send them towards your opponent.
-Makes a clone-
Send the blades towards my clone! > 
Thanks sempai _
I first concentrate my fuuton chakra and then I infuse my bladed weapons (kunai, does it count?) with wind and then further manipulate the blades in a spinning manner. I do this to the extent that the blades would be spinning and floating around my body before I send them towards your opponent.
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by -Logic-
Thanks sempai  _
I first concentrate my fuuton chakra and then I infuse my bladed weapons (kunai, does it count?) with wind and then further manipulate the blades in a spinning manner. I do this to the extent that the blades would be spinning and floating around my body before I send them towards your opponent.
Well, it's a bladed weapon, so I don't see why it wouldn't.
Okay, perform the Tiger > Ox > Dog > Rabbit > Snake hand seals whilst concentrating on your wind chakra and using that chakra, exhale a sudden gust of wind which is strong due to the chakra added, this gust of wind should be able to knock down a large tree without trouble. So at first I need you to do that.
However, this jutsu also has a secondary version, in which you instead release small blasts of wind, these smaller blasts of winds get ignited with flames.
After that, I need you to do something similar, now, unless you have a fan, you're going to perform a quick sequence of hand seals. *Shows you hand seals*, with that done, I need you to perform the hand seals whilst concentrating on your Wind chakra and using that wind chakra, blow out a sharp gust of wind, this wind should be able to slash your opponent whilst being strong enough to knock them back.
The slashes can be up to 2 inches deep, but you can't direct them, so they happen randomly and all over your opponents body, in this case, my clones will be your opponents, try both of these jutsus.
-Creates two clones-
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Re: [Wind Training] With Erzo-sama :D
 Originally Posted by Erzo
Well, it's a bladed weapon, so I don't see why it wouldn't.
Okay, perform the Tiger > Ox > Dog > Rabbit > Snake hand seals whilst concentrating on your wind chakra and using that chakra, exhale a sudden gust of wind which is strong due to the chakra added, this gust of wind should be able to knock down a large tree without trouble. So at first I need you to do that.
However, this jutsu also has a secondary version, in which you instead release small blasts of wind, these smaller blasts of winds get ignited with flames.
After that, I need you to do something similar, now, unless you have a fan, you're going to perform a quick sequence of hand seals. *Shows you hand seals*, with that done, I need you to perform the hand seals whilst concentrating on your Wind chakra and using that wind chakra, blow out a sharp gust of wind, this wind should be able to slash your opponent whilst being strong enough to knock them back.
The slashes can be up to 2 inches deep, but you can't direct them, so they happen randomly and all over your opponents body, in this case, my clones will be your opponents, try both of these jutsus.
-Creates two clones-
I concentrate my fuuton chakra and perform the handseals ;Tiger > Ox > Dog > Rabbit > Snake, using that chakra, I exhale a sudden gust of wind which is strong due to the chakra added. Because of that; this gust of wind should be able to knock down a large tree without trouble. So, keeping that in mind I concentrate my fuuton chakra, and peform the neccesary handseals; which I then concentrate my fuuton chakra w/ and release it at a tree, knocking it down.
Itachi: fawk yeah 
I then re-do the hand seals but this time I spit them out as small blasts of wind, concentrating my fuuton chakra and shape manipulation to form them this way.
I launch both of these techs at your clone(s)
Itachi: Eat it! 
I concentrate my fuuton chakra and perform a sequence of hand seals. *looks at u doing them*, with that done, I need perform the hand seals whilst concentrating on my Wind chakra and using that wind chakra, blow out a sharp gust of wind, i make it so it's strong enough to push my opponent back and slice him causing damage.
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Last edited by -Logic-; 08-29-2012 at 04:49 PM.
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