Clearing up the timeline confusion

[DeadManWonderLand]

The time line ain't that shaky at all.Its just a case of misunderstanding.The same as its always been with people who claim to find a plot hole but are never correct.You think those people would spend as much time verifying there thoughts as they do writing out their threads lol

Onoki is pushing his 70's and we know tsunade is currently 54.In the flash backs of onoki we clearly saw that madara was still alive which means this is before the fight with hashirama as everyone thought he was dead after the fight ensued.And since we know onoki was still young maybe late teens that would easily shave 50 years off his life span if you count backwards.Now how old would that make tsunade ?

The answer is 4.

Old enough to walk and talk and to start preschool or in her case gambling.
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We do not have exact age for onoki but we can estimate using the source of flash backs provided to us.
If tsunade was around 3 - 5 as the panel suggest and if onoki was in his late teens add 50 years and tsunade would be here current age and onoki would be pushing 70.

This correlation fits in the timeline that kishi has recently proposed.

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For those who say he never tells us onoki's age:
We don't need kishi to post everyone's age for us we have working brains we can do a little math on our own lol

[AllseeingSharingan]

Agreed

[Okami the butcher]

I'm pretty sure Onoki is closer to 80 given the fact he was at least 20 when he had his Madara flashback

[Misaki Yata]

I'm pretty sure Onoki is closer to 80 given the fact he was at least 20 when he had his Madara flashback

Hard to tell when he's like 4ft

[DeadManWonderLand]

I'm pretty sure Onoki is closer to 80 given the fact he was at least 20 when he had his Madara flashback

I said late teens which is 18 and 19.He could of been 20 0r 21 as well but that would still put him at early 70's,71 -73 not 80.

Because if he is 80 while tsunade is 54 that leaves a 26 year gap and if tsuande is around 4 or 5 that would make onoki 31 at his first skirmish with madara making your math way off lol

[Anakin Skywalker]

you know you dont have to go that far to explain this

i have a very simple and easy to understand solution

lets say the hashirama had a kid when he was 18
then hashirama's son/daughter had tsunade when he/she turned 18 .....that makes hashi 36
tsunade looked like a 4yr old in the last chapter so that would make hashi 40

does hashi look like 40 yrs old now .....maybe

all in all its highly unlikely but definitely possible

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Just curious, but how old was Hiruzen when he was the Sannin's teacher? If Tsunade is 54, and Hiruzen was 69, does that mean that Hiruzen was about 17-18 years old when he trained the Sannin?

[Django]

There was a confusion ? O_o

[DeadManWonderLand]

you know you dont have to go that far to explain this

i have a very simple and easy to understand solution

lets say the hashirama had a kid when he was 18
then hashirama's son/daughter had tsunade when he/she turned 18 .....that makes hashi 36
tsunade looked like a 4yr old in the last chapter so that would make hashi 40

does hashi look like 40 yrs old now .....maybe

all in all its highly unlikely but definitely possible

Counting back 50 years is not difficult.

I used tsunades age correlated with the flash back of onoki when he fought madara.

Your assuming how old hashirama is with nothing to measure it with

Your the one making it more needlessly complicated then it needs to be lol

[DeadManWonderLand]

There was a confusion ? O_o

If you look at some of the comments you will see why lol

[DeadManWonderLand]

Just curious, but how old was Hiruzen when he was the Sannin's teacher? If Tsunade is 54, and Hiruzen was 69, does that mean that Hiruzen was about 17-18 years old when he trained the Sannin?

No
lets say they were 10 at the youngest that would make hiruzen 25 since there 15 years apart

[Pragmatic]

Bite my shiny metal ass

[Yusuke Urameshi]

i guess so.
That is what narutopedia says.
Its not like he is the only powerful teen shinobi we ever saw

True, but I thought he looked older?

[DeadManWonderLand]

True, but I thought he looked older?

I was mistaken he was 25 since there 15 years apart assuming he trained them at the early age of 10

Sorry for the confusion i was calculating something else in my head lol

[DeadManWonderLand]

Bite my shiny metal ass

My teeth are 40 percent shiny titanium

[Anakin Skywalker]

Counting back 50 years is not difficult.

I used tsunades age correlated with the flash back of onoki when he fought madara.

Your assuming how old hashirama is with nothing to measure it with

Your the one making it more needlessly complicated then it needs to be lol

i didn't mean complicated as in subtracting 50 years....
i meant that you are including onoki into this unnecessarily

we can figure this out just by hashi's age and tsunade's age itself

i've given the base minimum age of 18 so that it seems legal and logical (atleast in real world )

[Talal]

I was mistaken he was 25 since there 15 years apart assuming he trained them at the early age of 10

Sorry for the confusion i was calculating something else in my head lol

They were 6 when Hiruzen trained them. That's why the timeline doesn't make sense.

[repulse]

This clarifies things...thank you for doing the math.

[DeadManWonderLand]

Hiruzen would be 21 if they were six.

That doesn't mess up the timeline.

We were talking about tsuandes age not hiruzens

When tsunade was 4 he was 19 and during danzo's flash back hiruzen was still young and under tobi's command.Which would account for his age at that time.

I don't know how you thin it messes up the timeline /:

[ImNotScared]

Explain Kakashi and Guy in the same Chuunin exams tough guy?

[DeadManWonderLand]

i didn't mean complicated as in subtracting 50 years....
i meant that you are including onoki into this unnecessarily

we can figure this out just by hashi's age and tsunade's age itself

i've given the base minimum age of 18 so that it seems legal and logical (atleast in real world )

People were saying the timeline was way off

Using onoki was pivotal because his flash backs prove the timeline was not off at all.

He was alive during the time before the hashirama and madara fight and since he is still alive you can take tsunades known age and subtract it from his likely age.Take the flashback panels he was shown in and you can estimate around how old he was.

If your going to say someone is a certain age you need something to compare it against.

And since the issue is whether or not tsunade was old enough to be alive at that point to begin with you can't use hashirama as an example.Especially since your just guessing his age.(Because we don't know how old he was at any given point in time and he died at a still unknown time)Anyone can guess his age but you need something for your estimate to fall back on.

So not only was it not unnecessary it was necessary.

[DeadManWonderLand]

Explain Kakashi and Guy in the same Chuunin exams tough guy?

I have no idea what you want me to do lol
Please clarify

[Talal]

Hiruzen would be 21 if they were six.

That doesn't mess up the timeline.

We were talking about tsuandes age not hiruzens

When tsunade was 4 he was 19 and during danzo's flash back hiruzen was still young and under tobi's command.Which would account for his age at that time.

I don't know how you thin it messes up the timeline /:

Okay so you believe that Hashirama died, then Tobirama became Hokage and built almost every major establishment in Konoha, and fought a war and died in less than a year?

Because in the flash back we saw when Hiruzen was training the Sannin he looked much more mature than when he became Hokage and Tsunade was 6 in that flash back. It's just really really tight that it doesn't make sense.

And if you're claiming that the timeline was never messed up then just like the comment above said explain Kakashi's Chunin exam. He was 6 when he became a Chunin and in the flash back ninja 5 years younger than him were in the same exam.

[DeadManWonderLand]

Okay so you believe that Hashirama died, then Tobirama became Hokage and built almost every major establishment in Konoha, and fought a war and died in less than a year?

Because in the flash back we saw when Hiruzen was training the Sannin he looked much more mature than when he became Hokage and Tsunade was 6 in that flash back. It's just really really tight that it doesn't make sense.

And if you're claiming that the timeline was never messed up then just like the comment above said explain Kakashi's Chunin exam. He was 6 when he became a Chunin and in the flash back ninja 5 years younger than him were in the same exam.

We know there is 15 years between tsunade and hiruzn making hiruzen 19 at the proposed age of gambling she learned at the hands of her grandfather and 21 when he took them on as pupils.

Who said tobirama had to do all this as he reigned as hokage ?

Did tsunade make the medical corps and establish the medical rules while being hokage ?
Are you not aware there are other positions of power other then village leader ?

Hiruzen was still young when he was under tobirama's team.That correlates with the timeline

If he was elected hokage after tobirama died who else is more qualified then him to train his grand niece ?

He did look more mature being 21 is more then enough time to grow the goatee we saw in that one picture of him and his team.

The ages all correlate with the timeline kishi proposed the only problem is you,yourself personally don't like it and that is not my problem

Talking about kakashi doesn't have anything to do with this topic.




What do you mean there was people 5 years younger then him ?

That would make these "other ninja" 1 years old lol

Ans unless your reading a different manga then me (which you must be) there was no babies competing during the chuunin exams


Stop deflecting

[DeadManWonderLand]

Explain Kakashi and Guy in the same Chuunin exams tough guy?

They competed at the same time that doesn't mean they graduated at the same time :sy:
Kakashi was a jonin long before everyone else in his generation.

Me so strong now !!!!!!!

.........Dumb ass