Natsu: Zeref's Son?

[sageadvice]

What are the odds that Natsu is Zeref's son, which is why Zeref believes that he is the only one that can defeat him?

Also, I'd bet that Acnologia and Zeref both became who they now are, one cursed with death magic and the other as a dragon, in the same event?

[portgas d luffy]

i don't realy watch fary tale but isn't zerf too young ?

[Sicnesse]

i don't realy watch fary tale but isn't zerf too young ?

Just young look, he's more than 400 years old :D

[portgas d luffy]

Just young look, he's more than 400 years old :D

o shit well he doen't realy look that way

[Juha]

Mavis is hiding info why was zeref on the island in the first place. he was probly trapt in fairy sphere. which could explain why he never aged.
Also i believe acnologia is natsu i believe natsu went through the time portal.

[sageadvice]

Yeah, I don't buy that Natsu is Acnologia, as he's not one to butcher the entire dragon race. However, Fairy Sphere being used on Zeref is interesting. I suppose that's quite possible. But why wouldn't Mavis mention it to the Tenrou Gang?

[Juha]

Yeah, I don't buy that Natsu is Acnologia, as he's not one to butcher the entire dragon race. However, Fairy Sphere being used on Zeref is interesting. I suppose that's quite possible. But why wouldn't Mavis mention it to the Tenrou Gang?

Mavis is still a mystery who knows why but that is def a possibility.

[The Scion of Hentai]

Nah, I think Zeref being immortal is a possibility. I mean, considering all the freakishly-powerful weapons he's created, his true strength should be more than enough to grant him immortality, specially considering the fact that he's a master of Death Magic.
OT: I guess that's somewhat of a possibility though it's by a narrow margin.

[sageadvice]

Hmmm, I agree that Mavis is a mystery, one that ties into Lumen Histoire, whatever that may be. But she doesn't seem like one with a dark secret.... she seems pretty open.

[Frozenstein]

whoa there are some interesting thoughts... and to say something they are all possible...

[Love Cook]

Maybe Zeref is Natsu and Lucy's son, afterall they're going back in time.

Natsu is basically immortal too and Lucy has the almighty power of her soon to be 12 (and the weird 13th) keys.

So I think they create Zeref in the past, switch pregnant lucy with Edolas Lucy by accident because in the parallel universe they went back in time as well. Travel back to the future which creates a time paradox that kills all the dragons including Igneel but except Acknologia which makes Natsu the ultimate dragon slayer.

Next chapter Natsu vs Acknologia !

[Ragnaroc]

Maybe Zeref is Natsu and Lucy's son, afterall they're going back in time.

Natsu is basically immortal too and Lucy has the almighty power of her soon to be 12 (and the weird 13th) keys.

So I think they create Zeref in the past, switch pregnant lucy with Edolas Lucy by accident because in the parallel universe they went back in time as well. Travel back to the future which creates a time paradox that kills all the dragons including Igneel but except Acknologia which makes Natsu the ultimate dragon slayer.

Next chapter Natsu vs Acknologia !

igneel isn't dead, he was shown not too many chapters ago just like wendy's dragon was

[sageadvice]

Exactly how often in manga do we see main characters get pregnant? I'd say about 0 percent of the time. But, I agree, they are going bacck in time 400 years ago to stop the creation of Zeref and Acnologia but could, instead, be the reason for their creation.

[Flame Alchemist]

this theory makes sense to me as well.

I believe that the gang will go 400 years back in time and meet zeref in his time. also, I think it's natsu who made zeref realize "the value of life."

in here

he says to natsu "you've grown up."
he knows that this natsu hasn't gone back in time and met him, at least not yet.
this means he met natsu while natsu was young enough not to remember. and it happened in the current timeline. could be because he was natsu's father and named him natsu when he realized he's the guy. also, he was the one who had igneel take care of him.

so my thoughts is that zeref met natsu in the past. and made a promise not kill anyone "willingly" until natsu (in his own time) became strong enough to kill him. he searched for a place away from the humans and found mavis. mavis kept him hidden in the island for a while and with the ethereal abilities she learned from zeref, she made sure to keep zeref out of humans' reach. and while he was in the island he somehow had a child.

supporting ideas.

no matter how you look at it there is something fishy with mavis.
looking like a child, having an ethereal body that can still use magic. and even though she died ages ago, makarov didn't know about her presence in the tenrou. and once the effects of the fairy sphere disappears she leaves the island saying that she was bored.

I think this was her way of saying, "now that zeref is no longer there I have no reason to remain on that island."

now for the plot holes.

makarov was named as a master 48 years ago. give purehito a 50 years of being master and it makes mavis' death 100 years ago. she either lived for 300+ years or for about 250 years zeref had another place to hide. mavis looks like a child. but it might be due to being an ethereal body or she also had an immortality technique placed upon her when she was young. only way is this possible is if mavis and zeref knew each other from the time they were kids.

how could zeref get close to a woman and have child. considering whoever comes near him just dies?
I found only one way to explain this. mavis once again. she could be natsu's mother. considering that she knows magic to create an ethereal body, she might also have a way to resist zeref's death magic. though how can a dead person be able to give birth?


it seems like too off even for a theory like this.
but I wanted to share

[Kiiszame]

Time travel... it always twists my mind..
theyre going back in time to stop a problem, but what if them going back in time created the problem. But if they go back in time to fix the problem then in the fututre they wont go back in time anymore because the problem never existed O.o

[Flame Alchemist]

Time travel... it always twists my mind..
theyre going back in time to stop a problem, but what if them going back in time created the problem. But if they go back in time to fix the problem then in the fututre they wont go back in time anymore because the problem never existed O.o

yeah it's confusing as hell. and I believe in FT if they time travel they won't change anything. they will go back to change it without knowing that 400 years ago that's already what had happened.

[sageadvice]

I think that Zeref was cursed with the death magic, not that he naturally exudes it. So, it's quite possible that the events of this arc cause Zeref to get this curse, which means that he could get close to whoever he wished prior to receiving the curse. I'm thinking that the event that created Acnologia as a dragon also created Zeref as walking death.

[-Ibrahim-]

Zeref is definitely immortal