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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post


    Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"



    Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke
    Clear as daylight to me.....
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    naruto's is better, he has precog and better foot speed then A, mening before raikage even move he can already counter act. Minato on the other hand reacted when A was a few inches away
    You can have every sensing abilities you want, but if your body is not able to react, it's useless. The time he recognise a danger with his sensing abilities, it can already be impossible for him to dodge. That's why he got pushed back in multiple occasions by A, when this same A could not even touch Minato. He also almost got warped in multiple occasions by Tobi, when this same Tobi couldn't even touch Minato, etc
    naruto can react before A move a muscle, minato reacted when A was a few inches before he reacted (throwing the kunai)
    What you seems not to realise is that the fact Minato reacted when A was a few inches before him actually shows that A is slow in comparison to Minato. How can Minato actually know exactly when to throw his kunai? Why didn't he throw it before that moment? Why didn't he throw it after that moment(and get punched). He perfectly got the timing right, he threw it exactly when Raikage was infront of him. That is really insane, and shows like i've said, that A is slow in comparison to Minato
    i don;t think A got slower, it's like saying A got weaker cuz he aged
    Like i also don't think he got faster simply because it's your imagination like i've said. You've actually no proof about what you're saying. Imagine things is easy, that's why i can also imagine that he got slower. But like i've said that first concerned is Raikage. He is the one to know whether he got slower or faster and he said nothing about it. He said in the contrary that both Minato and Naruto dodged his full speed. He didn't even had a thought about Sasuke. Actually i think that V1 is more like his banal speed. Even Suigetsu was able to keep up with him at the begin of the fight
     
         
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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post


    Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"



    Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"



    Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke
    This ^^
    Come on, raikage admitted that he is the fastest since minato is dead,(and he had the V2 when he admitted this)
    Minato is faster than A. Teleportation > speed
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Steel View Post
    BEFORE THE MINATO FANBOYS START FLAMING AND SAYING THAT A ADMITTED INFERIORITY READ FIRST !




    here A uses v1 lightning amour, notice his hair is all-back.



    same thing over here.

    Then there is v2 look at the middle of the panel in the scan below



    You see his hair spike up, and at this point, raikage's speed increased significantly (combined with shushin of course)

    more scans


    you see his hair is still spiked up because he is in v2 lightning amour, which is significantly faster then v1

    But against minato we only saw him use v1 lightning amour


    we also see here that minato just in a nick of time escapes A's punch, but with the enhanced speed of v2 would he have landed a hit on minato ? would minato's reflexes save him this time?

    It can be said that A in the past did not have v2 which was why he was unable to land a hit but would he be able to if he had v2 ?

    this is just my assumption no flaming allowed, *puts on flameproof jacket*
    Sorry but that was definitely V2. A's hair spikes up wihen using V2 and it clearly did when trying to blitz Minato.



    Obviously it didn't fully spike up due to his headband, but nonetheless it did. And as others have said, A told Naruto that he was only the 2nd person to dodge his "full speed" with Minato being the first.

    Sorry but the manga proves you wrong.
     
         
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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    He has some big hands. I mean it's bigger then the forth Hokages face!
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    If minato was still alive to the point where A had his V2 mode(assuming he didn't have it then) minato would of probably made FTG even better always being 1 step of speed ahead of A. But if they were to fight with A in v2 im pretty sure minato would still be faster since he teleports and A has to actually move from point A to point B while minato instantly transports.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Minato > A > Sasuke

    Minato > Sassuke
    A > Sasuke

    Sound good?
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Aren't you forgetting that FTG has V2 too? I mean he used it against Obito.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Minato>A low diff
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Dude u mad raikage even said" He avoided my full speed punch"so you think you no better than kishi
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?


    it was spiking up but his forehead protector restrain his hair





    see the comparison of speed?? it was kishimoto who said it.
    THE LIGHTNING CHALLENGES THE FLASH
    LIGHT is always faster than LIGHTNING
     
         
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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Minato>A
    but since minato cant damage Raikage
    Raikage>minato until kishimoto shows something!
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    does this also mean that sasuke is even or even faster than naruto when naruto is in that bijuu mode
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    LoL.Minato >>> Raikage.A was killed back then if bee didnt save his as$. :rofl:
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Raikage: "He avoided my full speed!"

    OP: "Raikage wasn't going full speed against Minato?"

    Sigh.. It doesn't even matter what is written in the Manga anymore. People will still debate that it is wrong.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post


    Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"



    Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"



    Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke

    Except for the part where raikage says it himself that minato is faster then him he actually says" im the fastest person alive now that the yellow flash is no longer among us" not that it should even matter because he uses instantaneous movement that makes any speed under the speed of light irrelevant.So there will never be anyone faster then minato.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ngylle View Post
    Minato>A
    but since minato cant damage Raikage
    Raikage>minato until kishimoto shows something!
    lol minato cant damage raikage? :rofl: what are you smoking?
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Steel View Post
    BEFORE THE MINATO FANBOYS START FLAMING AND SAYING THAT A ADMITTED INFERIORITY READ FIRST !




    here A uses v1 lightning amour, notice his hair is all-back.



    same thing over here.

    Then there is v2 look at the middle of the panel in the scan below



    You see his hair spike up, and at this point, raikage's speed increased significantly (combined with shushin of course)

    more scans


    you see his hair is still spiked up because he is in v2 lightning amour, which is significantly faster then v1

    But against minato we only saw him use v1 lightning amour


    we also see here that minato just in a nick of time escapes A's punch, but with the enhanced speed of v2 would he have landed a hit on minato ? would minato's reflexes save him this time?

    It can be said that A in the past did not have v2 which was why he was unable to land a hit but would he be able to if he had v2 ?

    this is just my assumption no flaming allowed, *puts on flameproof jacket*



    watch the anime where sauske fights the raikage. shee said "the raikage's speed and reflexes are on par with the fourth hokage's now" after he went v2................................................ .................................................. ......................................minato's by far the fastest shinobi, mate!!!
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Ftg>raikage full speed

    Enough said :-)
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post


    Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"



    Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"



    Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke
    THIS
    What u shd realise is that minato wasn't barely keeping up with A. He had his back turned on him. It wasnt a case of minato being 100% alert. The point all minato has to do is be aware of A, his ftg is instantaneous
     
         
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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Guys! It's pretty obvious what the thread maker wants to point out. Even if it's very clear what A said "HE AVOIDED MY FULL SPEED" the thread maker can't accept the fact that someone with an ordinary eye was able to react to the speed that even someone with a sharingan can't follow.



    If Minato can avoid the speed of which the sharingan can't follow then how much more to those who have lesser speed than A and without sharingan? It would make Minato very deadly and the thread maker doesn't want that to happen because he is an Uchiha fanboy or shall I say a Minato hater. Pretty obvious to me dude so don't hide what you can't hide.

    The manga prove you wrong and it was A who admitted that Minato was able to avoid his full speed yet you still want to give your own version just because of the hair? Look carefully at the pic below. Isn't that a spike hair?

     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenUzumaki View Post
    Ain't no Minato fanboy but you have to accept it, Minato was faster and A LOT smarter than A.

    Minato > Raikage mid diff /thread
    This
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    you cant go against Minato's speed he'll always be the fastest until someone else can actually teleport instantly
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    Now now what's next It wasn't A it was a clone??

    Get a life! The Past Raikage has said that he avoided My full Speed and The Present Raikage said that I am the Fastest SINCE the 4th Hokage is no longer alive.

    Please close this shit.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

    What point r u trying to prove in this thread?? The same could be said...It was back then....BACK THEN HE WAS NO MATCH AGAINST MINATO! learn to accept the fact that minato > A. Now that A has white hair and black back then because his power at that time he didnt have that much power. He wasnt at par with Minato and probably wouldnt have today itself if he was alive....who knows what minato would have developed in terms of various jutsus and techniques and chakra levels...just saying the facts.
     
         
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