[Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

[BrandonHeat614]

I'm not gonna hate on this theory..although I honestly don't believe it...and I don't really care much for minato anyways. He's cool but I like some of the lesser characters from the manga. What gets me is this...Why do people say there's a a v1 and v2 of his lightnening armor. Does it say it some where in the databook that there's a V1 and V2 of his lightnening armor? Is it ever stated in the manga that there's a V2? Am I missing something? If stated in the manga and/or databook I'm sorry I must have overlooked it and I'll admit fault, I'm not trying to diss anyone. However if it's not then I find it rediculous to say there's a V1 and V2 lightening armor. I personally think it's all the same. So what if his hair spikes up?? This isn't DBZ..I always viewed his hair standing up at certain times as if he was just preparing to attack, gathering up a big boost of lightening nature chakra. I don't believe there's a v2. Sure I believe that the moe chakra he puts into it the faster he can go. But I do believe that we've seen his max speed against both minato and naruto imo.

[TurrinB]

Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"



Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"



Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke

I agree with this post.

[cmilius]

Fail A said it again against naruto and you still don't get "he dodge my full speed" and again, "you are the second person to dodge my v2 speed is what raikage said himself but his speed got improve not that he didn't have it.

[YellowFang]

Current Raikage said; "You are the second one to dodge my full speed" @ Naruto
Which means he knew Minato dodged his full speed at that time...

[LolaxXx]

BEFORE THE MINATO FANBOYS START FLAMING AND SAYING THAT A ADMITTED INFERIORITY READ FIRST !




here A uses v1 lightning amour, notice his hair is all-back.



same thing over here.

Then there is v2 look at the middle of the panel in the scan below



You see his hair spike up, and at this point, raikage's speed increased significantly (combined with shushin of course)

more scans


you see his hair is still spiked up because he is in v2 lightning amour, which is significantly faster then v1

But against minato we only saw him use v1 lightning amour


we also see here that minato just in a nick of time escapes A's punch, but with the enhanced speed of v2 would he have landed a hit on minato ? would minato's reflexes save him this time?

It can be said that A in the past did not have v2 which was why he was unable to land a hit but would he be able to if he had v2 ?

this is just my assumption no flaming allowed, *puts on flameproof jacket*

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you just answered your own question alone with this.

[Sazzi]

BEFORE THE MINATO FANBOYS START FLAMING AND SAYING THAT A ADMITTED INFERIORITY READ FIRST !




here A uses v1 lightning amour, notice his hair is all-back.



same thing over here.

Then there is v2 look at the middle of the panel in the scan below



You see his hair spike up, and at this point, raikage's speed increased significantly (combined with shushin of course)

more scans


you see his hair is still spiked up because he is in v2 lightning amour, which is significantly faster then v1

But against minato we only saw him use v1 lightning amour


we also see here that minato just in a nick of time escapes A's punch, but with the enhanced speed of v2 would he have landed a hit on minato ? would minato's reflexes save him this time?

It can be said that A in the past did not have v2 which was why he was unable to land a hit but would he be able to if he had v2 ?

this is just my assumption no flaming allowed, *puts on flameproof jacket*

well also now that we see the anime it looked like to me that not only did minato dodge wat we'll call v1 but he did so in a fashion that looked like it was easy for him... cause he had time to twirl his kunai around then flip it into the air before he dodged it... maybe he can hit him in v2 if he can guess where he'll be... but im not to sure he could connect with the first attempt if at all...but maybe if minato had to flash around in the same area long enough raikage might catch him with a blow... which with the raikage is all u really need, is one blow against anyone w/o a sheild like jutsu to guard them...

[XxOUTZxX]

Time travel > Minato is about the only thing about speed Minato lose at

[narutownsyouall]

BEFORE THE MINATO FANBOYS START FLAMING AND SAYING THAT A ADMITTED INFERIORITY READ FIRST !




here A uses v1 lightning amour, notice his hair is all-back.



same thing over here.

Then there is v2 look at the middle of the panel in the scan below



You see his hair spike up, and at this point, raikage's speed increased significantly (combined with shushin of course)

more scans


you see his hair is still spiked up because he is in v2 lightning amour, which is significantly faster then v1

But against minato we only saw him use v1 lightning amour


we also see here that minato just in a nick of time escapes A's punch, but with the enhanced speed of v2 would he have landed a hit on minato ? would minato's reflexes save him this time?

It can be said that A in the past did not have v2 which was why he was unable to land a hit but would he be able to if he had v2 ?

this is just my assumption no flaming allowed, *puts on flameproof jacket*

Well considering that Raikage was alive a lot longer than Minato I think that he probably improved over the years.

And If Minato was still alive he would easily be above even Edo Madara.

[XXKillThemAllxX]

My bad minato has above average speed but isn't faster then A without teleporting Thts his reflexes are incredible but him and A have what looks to have same reflexes if it was just straight speed minato would've lost but teleporting I guess makes him faster

If his Reflexes were so good, he would have 2 arms right about now wouldn't he? :D

[STRAIGHTKILLL]

this thread got wacked' with the first comment after the op. "bogard" posted evidence that shows that the evidence you use, to say he wasnt at full speed is misleading with the way you describe it. .,

bogards post with scans shows that in fact raikage was at full speed.

the way the hair is drawn isnt much of anything
and who cares about the v1 v2 stuff your talking about. just read bogards comment after your comment that made the thread.

[DJ Dragon]

that was just ftg lvl 1...

[crysis04]

on one is fastest than minato

[UniversalPain]

I'm pretty sure that Minato could have easily dodged bee's attack being that he was able to dodge A's full speed. It's also obvious that A is much faster than Bee.

[UniversalPain]

If he wouldn't have lost his temper so easily he would still have both arms because A intentionally gave up his arm in order to strike Sasuke. A didn't have to dodge any sort of attack he just went insane and got pissed because Sasuke countered his move with amaterasu(sp?)

[lukasenko]

People please !

The reason why u couldn't see Raikage's hair spiked in the fight with minato is because of the village plate in his forehead, that simple.
In addition, Raikage say's it himself that he came to believe that no one could possible beat minato! Also he does say that that was his full speed. If you want to use logic then I would even say that A was faster at that time cuz he was younger! The older the slower

[daviddragon]

Current Raikage said; "You are the second one to dodge my full speed" @ Naruto
Which means he knew Minato dodged his full speed at that time...

yes, this is true.

[Inanimated]

Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"



Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"



Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke

*****, you ended this thread 2 minutes after OP. Everyone else saying Raikage's speed > Minato's is dead wrong.

[thegame]

Minato would not have been hit even if it was just his v2 speed, perhaps he hadn't faster speed at the moment? anyway Minato waits till the very last moment by using his technique because it gives him better chance to counter attack and avoid the enemy from doing a counter attack

[Arcaneos510X]

that may have been the fastest he could go at the time.

[venuboppudi]

nope i don't agree , he is in v2 at that time also but his hair band is hiding that effect, it just that he didn't use v1 against minato since minato is acknowledged badass

[Simplified]

Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"




Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"



Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke

This. Why is everyone out to disprove Minato's speed?

[NarutoKage2]

These type of threads rarely end well. Last one i was in got locked, so theres really no need for me to flame you or disprove the fallacies in the op. The reason these type of threads tend to get locked is becoz99.9% of ppl can see what youre saying is utter bs.

[Kronnic]

You're only the second person to dodge my top-speed punch!!!

I guess you know A better than his self and you would know if he was not full speed when he fought Minato.

[XxTwin BladexX]

There is no possible way that A can possible be faster than Instant Teleportation, which is what the FTG is.. And is what Minato uses.. So.. fail thread.

[Encon Uchiha]

lol if Raikage himself states that Minato is faster than him then im pretty sure hes telling the truth.