Re: [Theory] Raikage wasn't at full speed against Minato?

**Draw** · 10-07-2012, 11:28 PM

....what is the point of this thread.

**Kiiszame** · 10-08-2012, 12:27 AM

4th hokage is the fastest shinobi alive. even the raikage said it. I think ive seen at least one thousand threads regarding this same issue. with the same ending result

**htmwall** · 10-08-2012, 12:35 AM

why would A hold back against his enemy?

**UchihaMifune** · 10-08-2012, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Bogard

Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"

Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"

Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke

^This. /Thread and OWNED

**i hate sasuke** · 10-08-2012, 08:38 AM

this is ridiculous, its should obvious to all that minato would destroy A.

**RJxYellowFlash** · 10-08-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bogard

Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"

Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"

Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke

I like this guy xD well played *****
:D

**a banned cartoon** · 10-08-2012, 09:36 PM

I think when raikage says that only one persons been able to keep up with his full speed he means that. Your just looking to deeply into this. Stop trying to over analyze something that has been presented to you as simply as it can. Sometimes something's are just are what they are. So don't try to look any more deeply than that.

**UnrealSoul** · 10-09-2012, 02:02 AM

Bogard ended the thread a long time ago.The OP is just in denial.

Base speed Raikage>Minato in which makes A the fastest shinobi to ever live.

FTG is what Minato used to doge A's attack not his base speed.

Pretty funny how fanboys mistake speed for a jutsu that moves you at an instant. Wonder how well people think nowadays.

**Zero Path** · 10-09-2012, 02:08 AM

I love how it always comes down to: "Minato is only faster because he teleports And A doesn't!" >____> It's like people Don't realize That the current Raikage's "speed" also comes from Jutsu, Namely V1/2 armor and Body Flicker. Take That into account, and Measure Them either in base stats, or With Jutsu.

In Base I believe they both have 5.0, And as far as with jutsu It's pretty cut and dry that Yondaime Hokage is Faster, as stated many times throughout the manga. So in my opinion, Minato is the fastest. End of story.

**iiPyromaniac** · 10-09-2012, 02:43 AM

Nice points, *****. But, even if Raikage (past) had V2 back then, Minato would still be able to dodge. Just barely, however. I admit that the Raikage is fast, and that Minato is also fast. In all honesty - Minato has a split second over Raikage.

**XxTwin BladexX** · 10-09-2012, 06:19 AM

This ^^

Originally Posted by Zero Path

I love how it always comes down to: "Minato is only faster because he teleports And A doesn't!" >____> It's like people Don't realize That the current Raikage's "speed" also comes from Jutsu, Namely V1/2 armor and Body Flicker. Take That into account, and Measure Them either in base stats, or With Jutsu.

In Base I believe they both have 5.0, And as far as with jutsu It's pretty cut and dry that Yondaime Hokage is Faster, as stated many times throughout the manga. So in my opinion, Minato is the fastest. End of story.

**konohaninja2** · 10-09-2012, 08:01 AM

Think about it this way naruto(km) is faster than the raikage and minato is faster than naruto(km)

**chonk uzumaki** · 10-09-2012, 09:45 AM

hey man !! your forgetting the most obvious part of this thing !!n the picture where he is fighting sauske you can clearly see he is wearing weights on his arm ! for training ! so he couldnt possibly move at full speed at that time ! thats why he is faster after against naruto :D job done ...

**tristan** · 10-09-2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Sexy Steel

which is why i proposed the theory that he used v1 and not v2, v2 is faster than v1, minato might have been able to barely dodge v1 because of his reflexes but v2 closes this gap

minato is still the fastest shinobi when he was alive...speed kills, before you can even move...you die in an instant...

**LegendaryAce** · 10-09-2012, 02:02 PM

people saying raikage> minato are on crack ... Raikage would have died if minato really wanted to kill him

But he gave them advice and left

Originally Posted by UnrealSoul

Bogard ended the thread a long time ago.The OP is just in denial.

Base speed Raikage>Minato in which makes A the fastest shinobi to ever live.

FTG is what Minato used to doge A's attack not his base speed.

Pretty funny how fanboys mistake speed for a jutsu that moves you at an instant. Wonder how well people think nowadays.

That's ridiculous ... A uses that raiton armour ect to boost his speed what diff is it to minato using ftg

And tbh minato's base should be quite fast ..not as fast as ftg of course

**myhen** · 10-09-2012, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Sexy Steel

BEFORE THE MINATO FANBOYS START FLAMING AND SAYING THAT A ADMITTED INFERIORITY READ FIRST !

here A uses v1 lightning amour, notice his hair is all-back.

same thing over here.

Then there is v2 look at the middle of the panel in the scan below

You see his hair spike up, and at this point, raikage's speed increased significantly (combined with shushin of course)

you see his hair is still spiked up because he is in v2 lightning amour, which is significantly faster then v1

But against minato we only saw him use v1 lightning amour

we also see here that minato just in a nick of time escapes A's punch, but with the enhanced speed of v2 would he have landed a hit on minato ? would minato's reflexes save him this time?
It can be said that A in the past did not have v2 which was why he was unable to land a hit but would he be able to if he had v2 ?

this is just my assumption no flaming allowed, *puts on flameproof jacket*[/COLOR]

I think that Minato would have delayed until the very last minute to ensure his opponent was fully committed before using his technique, which also happens to LOOK like his opponent *just missed.

**Uchiha Siame** · 10-09-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Bogard

Raikage: "I'm the fastest shinobi now that the 4th has passed away"

Raikage: "He avoided my full speed?"

Raikage: "You're the second person to dodge my top full-speed" refering to Minato as the first one. He fought Sasuke before this moment, but didn't actually consider that Sasuke dodged his speed which means he didn't use his full speed at that moment against Sasuke

Yes Sasuke never dodged his full speed punch, he dodged the full speed elbow bolt but both are full speed..on topic, minato purposely teleported at the last second, and you can clearly see him remove the kunai in the nick of time aswell, minato is faster, he just has perfect timing too

**Uchiha Siame** · 10-09-2012, 07:52 PM

I'm out..have an assignment, message me a proper contradiction

**r0ck3t** · 10-09-2012, 11:26 PM

You guys over see this topic to far. You sound so immature. Who cares who was the fastest or IF the punch would of landed if he HAD(key word had) V2 in the past. He DIDN'T!!! End of story. geessh. Fanboys at their finest.

**mushidama** · 10-10-2012, 12:12 AM

sometimes i wonder what manga you guys are reading to the fact of saying who's faster than who well its simple it was said already first of all the( ftg) has nothing to do with speed that's number one, number 2, if you guys ever played any of the naruto games you would know who faster all you see is a flash of yellow lights that's why he was called the yellow flash in the manga. raikage stated the only person who is faster than me is the fourth hokage ever... and he also said the yellow flash caught him at his top speed last time i check top speed in the speed department means at full speed. people will always debate about minato because all we keep hearing he's a bad motherf***** and i notice a lot of other people who don't like that because they have there favorite ninja and that's cool but lets be real the fourth hokage is one of the baddest ninja besides madara, nagato, muu, kakashi, might gai, itachi, orochi,& all the kages & obito A&B ARE THE BADDEST TWO MAN TEAM EVER.... the fourth wasn't perfect he was the fastest the smartest the bravest the most feared ninja in the hidden leaf villages hands down! in the anime kakashi gaiden the one of the mist ninja said word is if you see the yellow flash you run we have never watch or read any other ninja with that kinda of rep ever! and it makes sense his son is the main character in the story why wouldn't the main person father be known as the baddest moe fo in the dojo its simple logic

**amsy** · 10-10-2012, 02:36 AM

i dont belive it

**Asura Pein** · 10-10-2012, 02:41 AM

I it hard to believe Naruto is as fast as the god of all shinobi, but it's his show so whateva. Surely the Raikage can do better.

**DynamicExit** · 10-10-2012, 06:34 AM

So, so....you're saying Ay can go Super Saiyan? Y'know....since his hair stands up and all....lolz :P

**NarutoisSOSP** · 10-10-2012, 07:40 AM

V2 only icreases the lighting to hit his nerves so he cant be caught n a genjutsu

**Uzumaki16** · 10-10-2012, 10:46 AM

Look at the scan(can't post it) of when he charged up to attack Naruto. His hair spiked up. Bee then noted that Raikage was at his fastest. This means his attack on Naruto was definitely V2. Naruto dodged it and then Raikage noted that the boy was the second person to do this meaning the first person also dodged his V2 punch. Meaning Minato dodged his V2 punch.

Also.....headband man. Everone has made it abundantly clear.

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