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    Is kishimoto sexist?

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    I really should have made this thread a long time ago, but have been avoiding it just because it seems to be a really sensitive topic and lots of people get butt-hurt when I call him a male chauvinist outright.

    It is my hypothesis that every single female character in Naruto can be reduced to either a love interest, a sex object, a damsel in distress, or has some stereotypical character flaw that makes them unlikable.

    I'm curious to see what others think of that observation.

    Do you think Masashi Kishimoto is sexist and why?

    If you would, please include whether or not you are male or female in your post since not everyone has their gender displayed, because I feel that in this kind of conversation gender does matter.

    Also, please, if you feel there is a character that does not fit into one of my categories, point it out.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism

    Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,[1] is the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less valuable than the other. It can also refer to hatred of, or prejudice towards, either sex as a whole (see misogyny and misandry), or the application of stereotypes of masculinity in relation to men, or of femininity in relation to women.[2] It is also called male and female chauvinism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_ch...nism_as_sexism

    Male chauvinism is a term used to describe the belief that men are superior to women. The term was widely used by the feminist movement in the 1960s to describe men who believe or display an attitude that women are inferior to men, speak to women as inferiors, or treat women negatively based solely upon their gender.[4]
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    I'm a man... I think he is a little bit but I like it. It's cool.
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Male. I think manga in general shows most of female character very... "nakedly" which i believe is disrespecting them...
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    does it really matter all that much if he is
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Men are generally looked at as more of the fighting type and females are more soft, so i have no problem with the way his characters are displayed.
    But the way Edo Madara embarrassed Tsunade was just ridiculous lol !
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Might be, but it doesnt matter to me
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    :rofl:
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    No guys, Kishi isn't sexist. He told me to tell you: "Quit making threads about me being sexist, lulz nerds." True story right there.
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Because this is a violent manga. So less woman involved.

    I don't think he's sexist. But really Kishi isn't good at making female characters.
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Male, I think Kishimoto probably is but this sadly is true for many cultures/people through histrory. Even in most modern manga how often are females portrade equal to men?
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    I don't know if this is true but in an interview, Kishi said that he doesn't really understand women that well. Hence the reason why women characters don't really play a big role in the Naruto world.
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    As an Asian, I'm sure he's a little bit .

    Sexism in Asia...eww...terrible
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    I agree maybe Kishi doesn't understand women very well.
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Eastern and Western views are rather different, so his way of thinking is most likely common in Japan where as over here its seen as some what wrong.
     
         
    Last edited by joodaa; 06-03-2012 at 11:02 AM.

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Kishimoto-sensei himself has stated he's not good when it comes to portraying female characters.
    Plus the ninja world has always been more of a man world than a woman world, it's just how it is. Men have always been potrayed as the fighters and women are the caretakers *shrugs*
    Besides it's not like all the female characters in the manga are that weak. Temari, Tsunade (I don't care what people think of her, she's awesome) and Mei are a few examples of that.
    But people have to be careful with calling him a sexist just because what some characters like Madara say about women.
    Number one rule in writing: the opinions of characters doesn't always necessarily portray the author's own opinion.
    Because it is perfectly possible to give a character an opinion that isn't the same as the author's. I thought this was well known?
    By the way, I'm a girl
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Quote Originally Posted by joodaa View Post
    Eastern and Western views are rather different, so his way of thinking is most likely common in Japan where as over here its seen as some what wrong.
    Agree. I used to be surprised after joining this forum and reading many threads. Your views is rather different and very interesting

    The most surprise is Sakura being hated so much :confused:

    In East Asia, her character is also a kind of "cute" haha
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    i don't think so , who care !?
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    read about level-5 games and go whine elswhere where you ever in anime realized kishi is treating womans like shit? just quit if it too much and this is forum not speed date you can't possibly gain anything saying shit like this
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Male - i dont think he is sexist ...but someone he lets his **** think for him :/ he has to keep it aimed a teenage boys and what do teenage boys like best? ...so he isnt sexist (people say he makes girls weaker...tsunade- yes she is strong she can prob aalmost 1 hit anyone...mei -...dont even need to start ...chiyo-badass puppet master of not the best...hinata - badass)there is prob more ---inn almost everything girls are potrayed as damsel in distress ...i have seen enough movies to believe that ...some of japan are still living in oldernn times and still believe women to be under men isnt sexism ..unless he made everyone stay in the kitchen which he doesnt.
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Female and I think he is sexist, the girls hardly do any of the fighting and it can be annoying
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    male, yes he is and all the female characters are weak/steryotyped (e.g. tsunade is strong but she has huge tits and gets drunk all the time which is a steryoptype)
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Male - Don't think he is sexist


    Well in one of the manga translations of Tsunade talking about her self she does mention her self being a female as if that is a weak characteristic to have in combat.

    That's as sexist as it has gotten.


    So far Tsunade is contributing the most to that fight, her chakra control enabled Onoki to take out 25 of probably the strongest clones NU has seen.

    She is powerful enough to break a Susanoo with her bare hands, you got Mei with her KG, Hinata with he KG, Konan doing more damage to the main Antagonist than even Minato.

    At the same time the main characters are the main characters, kishi has a story in mind and he is telling it how he wants to tell it, yes most of the main chars are men.

    Read the Manga claymore, it's still a good story despite the fact that the main characters are a specific gender.



    Btw it's all well and good to talk about Tsunade's boobs and say kishi making them large is bad, but must of the male characters are muscular and have large shoulders, it is only deemed sexist for Tsunade and Mei to have big boobs because of societies current view of that kind of exposure, many female characters in NU do not have large breasts.
     
         
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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    Female, and I say yes, he definitely seems so to me. A moment of strength is a rarity for female characters, and if they are shown as being 'strong', they are usually also shown to be *****es who beat up and patronize people. (Tsunade, and she's working on turning Sakura into a mini-me.) Hinata is a startling exception in some ways, being a sweetheart and also supposedly strong, and she (a) barely gets any screentime anymore and (b) still gets crushed by any male character she faces off against.
    I can't think of a single fight where a girl has beaten a guy.
    And seriously, I'm considered old-fashioned in many ways - I strongly support the women as caretakers, men as warriors thing. BUT: if a woman chooses a warrior path, I believe she should be able to stand up to, and beat some, men, and I don't see any sign of that.
     
         

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    Re: Is kishimoto sexist?

    maybe
     
         

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