Kakashi Knew About Mangekyou?

[MangaStream]

Just a Thought of Mine (if Someone Already Posted This, Well. IM SORRY :o)

So, We all Saw That (The Real) Kakashi is the one Who Killed Rin, Right.? and he Didnt Do it Accidentally, But Perhaps, Inentionally.

WHY?

If you Look Closely in The Eyes Of Kakashi in The Last Page of 604.. we can see that He is Crying. An "Accidental" Raikiri to your Close Friend wont send You Emotional.. But Shocked.

So That Gives me the Idea of Kakashi Knowing the Secret of Mangekyou (By Killing the Closest Person you had). Maybe Someone Said it to Him..

hehe. So.. Thoughts? Please Dont Flame me! IM JUST A 14 yrs OLD KID!!!

[Mejkl3]

Kakashi obtained MS in part 2 not before the start of part 1. /thread

[Prime Rib]

agreed guy above

[Kirin Rei]

Just a Thought of Mine (if Someone Already Posted This, Well. IM SORRY :o)

So, We all Saw That (The Real) Kakashi is the one Who Killed Rin, Right.? and he Didnt Do it Accidentally, But Perhaps, Inentionally.

WHY?

If you Look Closely in The Eyes Of Kakashi in The Last Page of 604.. we can see that He is Crying. An "Accidental" Raikiri to your Close Friend wont send You Emotional.. But Shocked.

So That Gives me the Idea of Kakashi Knowing the Secret of Mangekyou (By Killing the Closest Person you had). Maybe Someone Said it to Him..

hehe. So.. Thoughts? Please Dont Flame me! IM JUST A 14 yrs OLD KID!!!

Might as well be, but it's hard to believe.

Kakashi is depicted as a virtuous ninja that sacrifices himself for the greater good, as seen in the Pein Arc, where he uses his last drop of chakra to save Chouji so he could get on with his duty. I don't think he would stoop to such a low.

Besides, Kakashi has near to no way of knowing about MS back then and how to gain said power.
It all happened during the 3rd Shinobi WW.
Him, a non Uchiha had to find out about the Uchiha hiding place, the tablets and so on... All while the war was going on. I don't think it's possible.

If Kishi reveals this to be true I'll officially lose all respect to this manga.

Kakashi obtained MS in part 2 not before the start of part 1. /thread

But the thing is that Kishi probably hadn't thought of his recent plot back then. Part one was like an entirely different manga, there was even a quote of Kakashi that said it was believed that the Sharingan had originated from the Byakugan.

That's the reason some stuff regarding Part 1 must be taken in context.

[DeadManWonderLand]

nobody in the uchiha clan would tell him their secrets of their clan and if you killed your friend by accident you would be shocked as well as emotional why would he not be emotional ?

[TheAdamSlasher]

Maybe he killed Rin and MS didn't unlock because Rin wasn't his closest friend so thats why he become good friends with Gai because he planned on killing him but probably Obito unlocked MS and it Unloked for Kakashi

[Nocturnus]

I think that maybe it wasn't Kakashi who killed Rin but it was actually Zetsu disguised as him and Madara told Zetsu to do it so Tobi would listen to him or something like that

[Monster nagato]

Kakashi obtained MS in part 2 not before the start of part 1. /thread

agree

[Simple Math]

1) kakashi would never kill rin just to obtain ms
2) kakashi awakened ms in part 2 when they fought deidara

[Kirin Rei]

Maybe he killed Rin and MS didn't unlock because Rin wasn't his closest friend so thats why he become good friends with Gai because he planned on killing him but probably Obito unlocked MS and it Unloked for Kakashi

I'm disregarding the ''planning on killing Gai'' part because it's utter and complete hogwash, but you had me going for a moment when you said that Kakashi was able to unlock his MS because Obito did.

It actually makes sense after Madara's rambling about how a set of Sharingan is required and Obito's belief that he's connected to Kakashi due to his eye.

But here's the problem.

It's clear that Obito's been using his version of Kamui (which is a MS technique) for his intangibility.

The thing is, he used it against Minato, way back during the Kyuubi attack.

Kakashi was still a teen back then and he didn't have any MS powers. He clearly states that he's got something cool, a new jutsu to show Naruto just after the three year time leap and the first time he uses Kamui is during their pursuit of Gaara. Meaning that he managed to awaken his MS during the timeskip, not anytime before.

We still don't know how it works. If we believe that Kakashi actually did kill Rin or cause her death, why couldn't he awaken his MS back then?
Maybe it's different because he's a non Uchiha, maybe he had to come to terms with it. Maybe Kishi didn't think about it back then and decided to go with the MS/EMS/Rinnegan plot way after he started the manga (which is fairly certain).

Anyways, the only thing we are certain of is that Kakashi did not awaken his MS because his eye was connected to Obito's. Otherwise he would have been able to do it long ago.

[neilson]

He is intelligent isn't he? So ofcourse he knew about it

[Kirin Rei]

He is intelligent isn't he? So ofcourse he knew about it

Being intelligent and knowing a clan secret are two entirely different things.
That's like assuming he knows Uzumaki sealing techniques too, due to his intelligence.

Kakashi awakened his MS during the time skip, after facing Itachi.
He might have sneaked around after experiencing what MS was capable of, but not before.
He clearly states it in the manga. He utters the words.

I don't know how more obvious something can be.

[asdeiro]

well if kakashi had MS in part one why Kishi hasnt shown to us?

[ll BL4CKM00N ll]

It actually is possible that kakashi knew about the MS. I doubt he knew about at that age. I been thinkin that he actually unlocked the MS sharingan b4 the time skip its just that he was unable to either control it or that over excessive amount of chakra that base sharingan take prevented him from using it and during the time skip he was able to finally grasp the basics of the eye. He definitely showed knowledge about the MS when itachi came to konoha in part one, as well as when he was fighting itachi's clone before revealing it against deidara.

[MangaStream]

I think that maybe it wasn't Kakashi who killed Rin but it was actually Zetsu disguised as him and Madara told Zetsu to do it so Tobi would listen to him or something like that

No. If That Kakashi was a Zetsu.. Obito's Sharingan Would not Connect with his.