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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Smoke View Post
    I have to disagree with you. According to the manga when Edo-Madara's first encountered the allied forces, it took a whole row of Water-based ninjas to even neutralize his fire based jutsu. & to bring more evidence of this, look at the warm up battle with Itachi vs Kisame. How in the world did Itachi's fire neutralize Kisame's Water? I can't answer that but it did happen.
    you are talking about fodders

    mei single handedly countered madara's katons

     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Zlad View Post
    No shit, what do you expect when Madara pulls out fire? Tobirama destroyed Hiruzen's mountain with his water, and blocked his fire technique with no problem.

    You underrestimate water way to much
    so ive proved you wrong.

    & just to remind you, Tobirama still lost and got his soul sealed. During that battle it was almost like Hashirama was doing everything while Tobirama cherry picked. So much for water. (PS: Im not a 2nd Hokage hater)
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Zlad View Post
    Totally disagree.

    Water beasts out both fire and earth, if you're an skilled water user you can form your water to an beam and basically cut everything around you (just like Sasori did).

    I will say it is one of the best
    true i mean sassori did it with water cut rocks and clouds in half
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post
    you are talking about fodders

    mei single handedly countered madara's katons

    damn....totally forgot about that chapter...
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Smoke View Post
    Yeah don't get me wrong. I do agree with you that it is quite powerful when combined with other elements to make bloodline moves but either then that, a single water based ninja has no purpose. Who is he/she going to have an upper hand on? An Uchiha? I doubt he/she will win. Not many people have prime Fire based nature, only with the exception of a kekkei genkai combination.
    Well that's only if you look at nature advantages by themselves. IIRC, if a water and a fire jutsu strike w/ about the same power in both of them, we are led to believe that the water jutsu will overcome the Katon. If the same happens between an earth style and a water style jutsu, the water jutsu will inevitably fail unless it's a special circumstance. So overall it's fair and balanced. The only real way I can see it being unbalanced is the idea that there aren't as many fire style users in the NU as earth style users.

    In the end the nature advantage is only worth taking note on in certain fights. Do most of the Konoha Rookies even use an element when fighting? By strictly feats, water style is actually really versatile. Even w/o KG usage. Water clones, water projectiles, pressurized water prisons, and a blinding mist were all benefits that Zabuza got without a blood line! Of course I assume that water ninja are better when water is already present.

    I could be getting the entire idea of your thread wrong but meh
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post
    you are talking about fodders

    mei single handedly countered madara's katons

    But lets not forget that no one else uses Fire besides a low number of survivors of the Uchiha clan. & THEY DON'T NEED TO USE FIRE TO WIN BATTLES. So my next question is, what is the point? Who else in the Naruto World uses fire?? I can't think of anyone. She might as well keep that jutsu inside her big bra!
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Drakengard View Post
    Well that's only if you look at nature advantages by themselves. IIRC, if a water and a fire jutsu strike w/ about the same power in both of them, we are led to believe that the water jutsu will overcome the Katon. If the same happens between an earth style and a water style jutsu, the water jutsu will inevitably fail unless it's a special circumstance. So overall it's fair and balanced. The only real way I can see it being unbalanced is the idea that there aren't as many fire style users in the NU as earth style users.

    In the end the nature advantage is only worth taking note on in certain fights. Do most of the Konoha Rookies even use an element when fighting? By strictly feats, water style is actually really versatile. Even w/o KG usage. Water clones, water projectiles, pressurized water prisons, and a blinding mist were all benefits that Zabuza got without a blood line! Of course I assume that water ninja are better when water is already present.

    I could be getting the entire idea of your thread wrong but meh
    Very well said. This is one of the most smartest arguement that has been posted on this thread alone. & I especially agree with you that water ninjutsu is beneficial when their is a huge water source such as a lake or ocean nearby!
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

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    But lets not forget that no one else uses Fire besides a low number of survivors of the Uchiha clan. & THEY DON'T NEED TO USE FIRE TO WIN BATTLES. So my next question is, what is the point? Who else in the Naruto World uses fire?? I can't think of anyone. She might as well keep that jutsu inside her big bra!
    kisame used water to win his fights
    and no fire can counter that

     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

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    But lets not forget that no one else uses Fire besides a low number of survivors of the Uchiha clan. & THEY DON'T NEED TO USE FIRE TO WIN BATTLES. So my next question is, what is the point? Who else in the Naruto World uses fire?? I can't think of anyone. She might as well keep that jutsu inside her big bra!
    Kakashi, Hiruzen, fodder nin. also uses fire.
    Water is better than fire and earth by far and tied with wind and lightning. tell me 3 jutsu's all must be the same element that is better than water prison,water dome and giant shark bullet?
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post
    kisame used water to win his fights
    and no fire can counter that

    Remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xClizE9YQRk (Look @ 1:30) & see how water gets neutralized. So I guess YOUR THE FOOL WHO GAVE PROOF THAT YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

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    Remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xClizE9YQRk (Look @ 1:30) & see how water gets neutralized. So I guess YOUR THE FOOL WHO GAVE PROOF THAT YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT
    unleash your rage using a video game :lmao:
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by slaton02 View Post
    Kakashi, Hiruzen, fodder nin. also uses fire.
    Water is better than fire and earth by far and tied with wind and lightning. tell me 3 jutsu's all must be the same element that is better than water prison,water dome and giant shark bullet?
    Kakashi uses lightning NOT FIRE.

    Its true about Hiruzen using Fire & that was one of his greatest effective methods in defeating Edo Tobirama (Who also uses water). I keep explaining that fire can dissapate water IN THE NARUTO WORLD & NOWHERE ELSE BUT THE NARUTO WORLD but however, many people are still thinking based on the real world.
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Smoke View Post
    Remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xClizE9YQRk (Look @ 1:30) & see how water gets neutralized. So I guess YOUR THE FOOL WHO GAVE PROOF THAT YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT
    you think that same fire jutsu can take out water dome . BTW that was a small water sharks itachi had to use a medium size fire tech jutsu to neutralize it. Kisame defeated Bee a lightning user, he solo'd roshi and lava(which is better than fire) release user with low diff and Tobirama was famous for his water techs. Also Zabuzu had Kakashi beat(another lightning user) with water prison just amit you underestimated water jutsu's.

    EDIT:You didn't know Kakashi uses fire techs? I guess you thought the 1000 jutsu's was all lightning you still didn't answer my question....can't think of any can you?
     
         
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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post
    unleash your rage using a video game :lmao:
    come on mr.lol 99. Nobody is mad here. Im just trying to make you feel stupider then your comment and no its not necessarily the video game but a performance based on the real Naruto series.
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

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    come on mr.lol 99. Nobody is mad here. Im just trying to make you feel stupider then your comment and no its not necessarily the video game but a performance based on the real Naruto series.
    if you think fireball cancels water dome then i have nothing more to say to you
    i am out of this fail thread
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Kisame, nuff said.
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by slaton02 View Post
    you think that same fire jutsu can take out water dome . BTW that was a small water sharks itachi had to use a medium size fire tech jutsu to neutralize it. Kisame defeated Bee a lightning user, he solo'd roshi and lava(which is better than fire) release user with low diff and Tobirama was famous for his water techs. Also Zabuzu had Kakashi beat(another lightning user) with water prison just amit you underestimated water jutsu's. we havent even seen Roshi fight. For all we know Kisame could have met Roshi while he was on a mission and exhausted or even worst, injured. Lets not forget that Roshi is a jinchuriiki so definetly Kisame will have unlimited chakra for water techniques by absorbing the beast chakra.

    EDIT:You didn't know Kakashi uses fire techs? I guess you thought the 1000 jutsu's was all lightning
    Ok, although your right about Kakashi having fire based techniques from his 1000 jutsu mimmics but however, till this manga release he has not used 1 fire technique throughout the whole series. If a ninja uses lightning while being in a water prison he will obviously shock himself. That is the reason why Kakashi did not use Raikiri inside Zabuza water prison.
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post
    if you think fireball cancels water dome then i have nothing more to say to you
    i am out of this fail thread
    Now your just putting words in my mouth but its okay. Your exact words was "run away" and I completely understand since natzzz reply right under you is your birth mark =)
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Smoke View Post
    Ok, although your right about Kakashi having fire based techniques from his 1000 jutsu mimmics but however, till this manga release he has not used 1 fire technique throughout the whole series. If a ninja uses lightning while being in a water prison he will obviously shock himself. That is the reason why Kakashi did not use Raikiri inside Zabuza water prison.
    @bold exactly, fire would do nothing also. You can barely move in water prison so you would not even be able to from a jutsu.You just amitted water jutsu's are beastly, basicly. I'm done here
     
         

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    Re: Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

    Hidden mist tech will solo most Ninja.
    Giant Water wave explosion has the forec of a title wave, it will either crush you, knock you unconsious or leave you disorientated.
    Shark Missles, will shred you to pieces
    giant shark bullet will absorb most jutsu
    Water Prison, hold you there till u drown.
     
         

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