Team 7 sucks!

[TenzaZangetsu]

Naruto killed Pain.
Sasuke killed orochimaru
And Sakura....

u cant say team 7 suck when Naruto and Sasuke have killed some of best crimanals in Naruto

The key word is 1v1! 1v1!..

[Turson]

Naruto and Sasuke are much stronger than before no doubt, they are now in the big league of the good guys, however, the people in the villians big league would fodderize them 1v1..

Yeah, just like everyone, incluing Madara or Hashirama would be owned by Sage of the Six Paths. Does that mean they are fodders? Naruto and Sasuke are already overpowered, and Sakura is very skilled in her job. Team like that doesnt sucks at all...

[TenzaZangetsu]

so you sucks if you haven't killed someone..

It's not the killing part I'm concerned with, it's the 1v1..

[TenzaZangetsu]

well the plot has it this way if you dont like team seven why read/watch at all lol the whole series is about team seven and its bonds

There are many interesting characters in the Narutoverse, I can still enjoy it without focusing much on them.

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Naruto and Sasuke are much stronger than before no doubt, they are now in the big league of the good guys, however, the people in the villians big league would fodderize them 1v1..

Well nobody can defeat Obito and Madara without help, so what's the problem? They are only gonna get stronger after this and will be the strongest at the end of the manga..

[6 Paths of Pain]

Wrong,Team 7 is on Kage level except Sakura cause she is a mdeic ninja easily 3rd atm

[TenzaZangetsu]

Naruto is a near god level shinobi who holds the most powerful tailed beast. Sasuke has the strongest defense jutsu and is master of MS not to mention what ever EMS gives him. There are not many ninja who can beat them in the whole series but something tells me you know that so what are you exactly, maybe a troll. The f*ck out of here how many people in this series do kill their oponents 1vs1 fights in this series. What makes the manga entertaining is the level of difficulty in each fight. It would be boring to watch a fight where the good guy was super better than the supposed to be unstoppble bad guy. Kakashi is low to mid kage level shinobi and sakura is easily the third best medic in the series after tsunade and shizune

I agree that the good guys shouldn't just sail to victory all the time, and the same goes for the bad guys, but, if the good guys can NEVER win a big fight alone against a villian at whichever stage of growth they encouter them then it's just sad! After all, the good guys, especially the main character, are supposed to bust the bad guys.
Also you say Naruto is at a gods level but his corresponding villians who are at that level would school him 1v1!
Also Sasuke doesn't have the strongest defense right now, not when Madara is there..

[TenzaZangetsu]

Yeah, just like everyone, incluing Madara or Hashirama would be owned by Sage of the Six Paths. Does that mean they are fodders? Naruto and Sasuke are already overpowered, and Sakura is very skilled in her job. Team like that doesnt sucks at all...

The SO6P is from a different generation. I'm talking about people who appear in your time, look at Hashirama, he was the antagonist of his time, he took out Madara the villian of his time 1v1 like a true antagonist should..

[Turson]

if the good guys can NEVER win a big fight alone against a villian at whichever stage of growth they encouter them then it's just sad!

What are you talking about? They are just 16 years old, yet Naruto can take on a couple of current Kages and win against them, Sasuke can solo each one of them... just becuase final villains are ridicously strong doesnt mean that everyone who isnt as strong as them is a fodder. For example Orochimaru, he was main villain for quite some time, yet both Naruto and Sasuke (especially Naruto) are stronger than him.

[TenzaZangetsu]

Well nobody can defeat Obito and Madara without help, so what's the problem? They are only gonna get stronger after this and will be the strongest at the end of the manga..

My point exactly! Right now they can't compete with the main villians, and even back then they ganged up on their opponents in order to win, so in that regard they suck to date. So until they do so the fact remains

[BlackBison]

These are all of the members of team 7 or( ex-Team 7 as sasuke says) battles w/ added comments

Kakashi

Kakashi vs Zabuza: Kakshi won
Kakashi, Asuma, and Kurenai vs Itachi and Kisame: The duo would have won but they retreated
Kakashi vs Kakuzu and Hidan: undecided
Kakashi vs Kakazu: Rescued by yamato and naruto
Eight man squad vs tobi: Undecided(Tobi was just stalling)
Kakashi vs Deva Path: Deva Path
Kakashi vs Sasuke: undecided(interrupted and sasuke went blind)
The fifth division led by Commander Kakashi vs Edo Zabuza and edo Haku: Fifth division victory(kakashi responsible for them being able to seal zabuza)
Fifth division vs 7 swordsman(without zabuza): Presumbly the fifth division victory)
Kakashi,gai, naruto and bee vs Tobi: Undecided

Sasuke

Sasuke vs Naruto,Yamato, and Sai: Sasuke won
Sasuke vs Orochimaru: Sasuke won and toke over his body(Orochimaru was sick)
Sasuke vs Deidara: absolute victory for sasuke(then deidara blew himself up and heavenly injured sasuke)
Sasuke vs Itachi: Sasuke won(itachi was sick and wanted sasuke to win)
Sasuke vs Bee: Sasuke stood no chance at that moment( Different story currently in the manga)
Sasuke vs Raikage: match interrupted
Sasuke vs Danzo: Sasuke's victory(Danzo couldn't use KA, but he was able to use Izanagi)
Sasuke vs Kakashi: undecided(interrupted and sasuke went blind)
Sasuke + Itachi vs Kabuto: It was really Itachi vs Kabuto: Itachi won

naruto

Naruto and Kakashi vs Itachi: The duo won( but it wasn't the real Itachi)
Naruto vs Deidara: Deidara escaped( lost both of his hands)
Naruto vs orochimaru: no conclusion(naruto went berserk and lost control and orochimaru soul started to reject his body)
Naruto, Sai, and Yamato vs Sasuke: Sasuke won
Naruto vs kakuzu: Naruto won(kakuzu was already injured)
Eight man squad vs tobi: Undecided(Tobi was just stalling)
Naruto vs six paths of pein: Naruto won( Deva couldn't fight for most of the fight, Hinata saved naruto, and naruto went berserk and lost control)
Naruto vs Kyubbi(inside mind battle): Naruto won( had help from bee and kushina)
Naruto and Bee vs Itachi and Nagato: turned out to be Naruto, bee, and itachi vs nagato: the trio won( itachi saved naruto and bee, then the trio destroyed chibaku tensei thanks to itach's analyitical, and then itachi sealed nagato)
Naruto w/ assistance from gaara vs Muu: naruto's victory(If not for gaara making a sand platform, naruto would have been hit by dust release)
Naruto w/assistance from hachibi vs 3rd raikage: If not for the information hachibi gave naruto, naruto would not have been able to discover 3rd's weakness)
Naruto and Bee vs Six paths of jinuurchiki: the duo won(Naruto finished them off in his new BM)
Naruto, Bee,Kakashi, and Gai vs Tobi: undecided

sakura

Sakura and chiyo vs Sasori: the duo won(sasori let chiyo finish him off)

Sakura had really only won fight but her specialty isn't fighting she is one of the best medical ninjas in the whole series and the only people better than her in medical ninjustu are Tsunade and Shizune.

Tried to put them in chronological order and I added comments about their fights
No matter what comments I put a win is a win unless I put undecided

[TenzaZangetsu]

Wrong,Team 7 is on Kage level except Sakura cause she is a mdeic ninja easily 3rd atm

But despite their power boosts they still can't win 1v1 against the current villians...tsk tsk tsk

[Turson]

But despite their power boosts they still can't win 1v1 against the current villians...tsk tsk tsk

Final villains are supposed to be overpowered. Besides, they still have room to improve. Naruto and Sasuke are already very powerful, but they can still become stronger. Sasuke dint even achieve Perfect Susanoo, and we know that its an EMS technique.

[TenzaZangetsu]

But didn't Sasuke 1v1 Naruto at the Final Valley and win.

Internal scuffle doesn't count when none of you is officially evil..:D

[Turson]

Internal scuffle doesn't count when none of you is officially evil..:D

Whatever, if Team7 was ever formed again with Sasuke as member it would be one of the most powerfuls teams in history. Live with that.

[TenzaZangetsu]

These are all of the members of team 7 or( ex-Team 7 as sasuke says) battles w/ added comments

Kakashi

Kakashi vs Zabuza: Kakshi won
Kakashi, Asuma, and Kurenai vs Itachi and Kisame: The duo would have won but they retreated
Kakashi vs Kakuzu and Hidan: undecided
Kakashi vs Kakazu: Rescued by yamato and naruto
Eight man squad vs tobi: Undecided(Tobi was just stalling)
Kakashi vs Deva Path: Deva Path
Kakashi vs Sasuke: undecided(interrupted and sasuke went blind)
The fifth division led by Commander Kakashi vs Edo Zabuza and edo Haku: Fifth division victory(kakashi responsible for them being able to seal zabuza)
Fifth division vs 7 swordsman(without zabuza): Presumbly the fifth division victory)
Kakashi,gai, naruto and bee vs Tobi: Undecided

Sasuke

Sasuke vs Naruto,Yamato, and Sai: Sasuke won
Sasuke vs Orochimaru: Sasuke won and toke over his body(Orochimaru was sick)
Sasuke vs Deidara: absolute victory for sasuke(then deidara blew himself up and heavenly injured sasuke)
Sasuke vs Itachi: Sasuke won(itachi was sick and wanted sasuke to win)
Sasuke vs Bee: Sasuke stood no chance at that moment( Different story currently in the manga)
Sasuke vs Raikage: match interrupted
Sasuke vs Danzo: Sasuke's victory(Danzo couldn't use KA, but he was able to use Izanagi)
Sasuke vs Kakashi: undecided(interrupted and sasuke went blind)
Sasuke + Itachi vs Kabuto: It was really Itachi vs Kabuto: Itachi won

naruto

Naruto and Kakashi vs Itachi: The duo won( but it wasn't the real Itachi)
Naruto vs Deidara: Deidara escaped( lost both of his hands)
Naruto vs orochimaru: no conclusion(naruto went berserk and lost control and orochimaru soul started to reject his body)
Naruto, Sai, and Yamato vs Sasuke: Sasuke won
Naruto vs kakuzu: Naruto won(kakuzu was already injured)
Eight man squad vs tobi: Undecided(Tobi was just stalling)
Naruto vs six paths of pein: Naruto won( Deva couldn't fight for most of the fight, Hinata saved naruto, and naruto went berserk and lost control)
Naruto vs Kyubbi(inside mind battle): Naruto won( had help from bee and kushina)
Naruto and Bee vs Itachi and Nagato: turned out to be Naruto, bee, and itachi vs nagato: the trio won( itachi saved naruto and bee, then the trio destroyed chibaku tensei thanks to itach's analyitical, and then itachi sealed nagato)
Naruto w/ assistance from gaara vs Muu: naruto's victory(If not for gaara making a sand platform, naruto would have been hit by dust release)
Naruto w/assistance from hachibi vs 3rd raikage: If not for the information hachibi gave naruto, naruto would not have been able to discover 3rd's weakness)
Naruto and Bee vs Six paths of jinuurchiki: the duo won(Naruto finished them off in his new BM)
Naruto, Bee,Kakashi, and Gai vs Tobi: undecided

sakura

Sakura and chiyo vs Sasori: the duo won(sasori let chiyo finish him off)

Sakura had really only won fight but her specialty isn't fighting she is one of the best medical ninjas in the whole series and the only people better than her in medical ninjustu are Tsunade and Shizune.

Tried to put them in chronological order and I added comments about their fights
No matter what comments I put a win is a win unless I put undecided

***** for effort:ice:

Kakashi

Kakashi vs Zabuza: Kakashi needed Naruto & Sasuke to free him from the water prison
Kakashi, Asuma, and Kurenai vs Itachi and Kisame: you said it..
Kakashi vs Kakuzu and Hidan: Pliz! Kakashi was gasping for air
Kakashi vs Kakazu: you said it.,
Eight man squad vs tobi: This was just sad, 8v1...tsk tsk
Kakashi vs Deva Path: you said it..
Kakashi vs Sasuke: Sasuke was just coming out of a big battle with Danzo and was tired, but still Kakashi could barely keep up!
The fifth division led by Commander Kakashi vs Edo Zabuza and edo Haku: they used masses
Fifth division vs 7 swordsman(without zabuza): Iffy..
Kakashi,gai, naruto and bee vs Tobi: you said it..

Sasuke

Sasuke vs Naruto,Yamato, and Sai: Sasuke was evil-ish, and the good guys lost..
Sasuke vs Orochimaru: Beating a terminally ill patient can't be worth it..
Sasuke vs Deidara: Sasuke had upper hand yes, but Deidara nearly took him down with him if it wasn't for his Hebi team mates
Sasuke vs Itachi: Battle was a sham, Itachi commited suicide out of compassion..
Sasuke vs Bee: you said it..
Sasuke vs Raikage: Raikage was about to finish off Sasuke at the expense of his leg..
Sasuke vs Danzo: Almost clean, almost..
Sasuke vs Kakashi: Sasuke was immediately coming out of a big battle with Danzo..
Sasuke + Itachi vs Kabuto: you said it..not a team 7 member

naruto

Naruto and Kakashi vs Itachi: 2or4v1..
Naruto vs Deidara: you said it.
Naruto vs orochimaru: Naruto wasn't in control..
Naruto, Sai, and Yamato vs Sasuke: the then team 7 lost..
Naruto vs kakuzu: Not 1v1, groundwork had already by done by team Asuma and Kakashi..
Eight man squad vs tobi: 8v1 was pathetic..
Naruto vs six paths of pein: Naruto had lots of help, from the 4th Hokage and the Kyuubi fought for him..
Naruto vs Kyubbi(inside mind battle): you said it..
Naruto and Bee vs Itachi and Nagato: you said it..
Naruto w/ assistance from gaara vs Muu: many v1 as you said..
Naruto w/assistance from hachibi vs 3rd raikage: you said it..
Naruto and Bee vs Six paths of jinuurchiki: you said it..
Naruto, Bee,Kakashi, and Gai vs Tobi: you said it..not 1v1

sakura

Sakura and chiyo vs Sasori: you said it..

This proves my point exactly..they have never one a big battle without assistance tsk tsk tsk:rofl:

[TenzaZangetsu]

Whatever, if Team7 was ever formed again with Sasuke as member it would be one of the most powerfuls teams in history. Live with that.

Maybe, but until then..history is against them

[Turson]

Maybe, but until then..history is against them

What history? You were talking about current members of Team7 including Sasuke, right? Sorry, but team like that is already ridiculously powerful, and I dont even want to know what will be in the future.

[TenzaZangetsu]

What history? You were talking about current members of Team7 including Sasuke, right? Sorry, but team like that is already ridiculously powerful, and I dont even want to know what will be in the future.

By history I mean the actual battles they have been in. None of whom have been won 1v1, fair and square, man to man(or woman to man etc).

[Agent 47]

By history I mean the actual battles they have been in. None of whom have been won 1v1, fair and square, man to man(or woman to man etc).

What if i told you, the Chuunin exam preliminaries are an example of a 1v1 fight of Naruto, Sasuke and kakashi.[I dont give a damn about sakura]

Happy?

/thread

[Turson]

By history I mean the actual battles they have been in. None of whom have been won 1v1, fair and square, man to man(or woman to man etc).

Who gives a shit? Madara lost to Hashirama, yet nobody said that hes a fodder. Current Team7 is overpowered, thats all that matters.

[TenzaZangetsu]

What if i told you, the Chuunin exam preliminaries are an example of a 1v1 fight of Naruto, Sasuke and kakashi.[I dont give a damn about sakura]

Happy?

Those were kiddy games! I mean some real sh*t..(I too, don't give a damn about Sakura :ice

[Turson]

Those were kiddy games! I mean some real sh*t..(I too, don't give a damn about Sakura :ice

They were not kiddy games. Do you think that guys like Madara and Hashirama were gods from the day of their birth? Team7 are only 16 years old.

[Lilvic92]

Naruto defeated Gaara
Sasuke fodderized Temari
Sasuke defeated Deidara
Sasuke soloed an entire army

Sasuke did have alot of help against Danzo (Karin was a big help) so I'll give you that

[TenzaZangetsu]

They were not kiddy games. Do you think that guys like Madara and Hashirama were gods from the day of their birth? Team7 are only 16 years old.

Yes they were,Naruto was saved by a fart vs Kiba!:D
Hashirama and Madara weren't gods from birth, but 16 is quite grown in the Narutoverse..