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    why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    SPEED: Sasuke in no way can get past gaara's ultimate defense like he did in the chuunin exams. We saw gaaras sand was fast enough to intercept the raikage in v2. That alone speaks for the speed his sand is capable of.

    TAIJUTSU: A worthless category for a fight involving sasuke vs gaara as sasuke does not nearly possess the speed needed to even beak through gaaras defense.

    KIRIN: At best kirin which couldn't even beak through the most basic sussannoo rib cage is not going to harm gaara. The fact of the matter is at best the sand will turn to glass. Gaara is capable of defending himself from it with a mass of sand. Not to mention the time it takes for sasuke to generate the amount of heat necessary for KIRIN is enough time for gaara to crate sand like he did with kimmimaro in order to defend himself.

    AMATERASU: At best Amaterasu is not getting to gaara in the slightest way. His ultimate defense has already been shown to block Amaterasu something only A was able to accomplish by using body flicker plus v2.

    Sussannoo: we have seen how gaara can manipulate the sand underneath sussannoo in order to drag out the user. This can be done effectively and easily due to the fact that gaara can crate a desert and continue to fight as seen with kimmimaro

    Sussannoo arrows: Gaara has shown that he has the capability to deflect powerful physical attacks like kimmimaro hardest bone. If gaara wishes he may use that sand defense again plus he can sense with sand therefore eliminating the need for sight. The arrow is not going through the density of the sand. Matter of fact gaara can cause a tsunami of sand if you will and completely cover sussannoo and crush it under the desserts pressure depending on what form it is.

    Tsukuyomi: This is the issue that gaara has. however it can be easily bested by sensing with the sand which he had been shown to do or not looking in his eyes.

    It's not that sasuke is weak but he has nothing on gaara. I only intended this thread to be about speed but I figured why not crush anything sasuke can do against gaara. This isn't intended on starting a flame war either. Sorry about not including pictures or links I'm on a phone lol.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    was that all? i've expected a thread with manga scans and more explanation etc...

    for now, sasuke shits on Gaara..


    With what lol. None of his Chidori variations are even going to beat him.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Sasuke Chidori>Garra's Sand and for the last time Sasuke didn't uses Amaterasu against Garra..he used Blaze.



    Edit: you should reread the Manga before you make a thread as this.
     
         
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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    was that all? i've expected a thread with manga scans and more explanation etc...

    for now, sasuke shits on Gaara..
    Took the words right out of my mouth.....just laughable
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

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    Sasuke Chidori>Garra's Sand
    Sasuke doesn't even have the speed necessary to even get past his automatic sand. Sasuke would have better luck killing gaara by making fun of his dead mother.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    was that all? i've expected a thread with manga scans and more explanation etc...

    for now, sasuke shits on Gaara..
    Then i shall create something to that expectations...
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Sasuke basically lost to gaara twice as a young bol and older. so i have to agree
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Gaara wont allow sasuke to approach him with a chidori. And long ranged chidori techs arent fast enough to get to gaara on his cloud of sand. Chidori senbon doesnt have the reach. Sasuke has the element advantage but Gaara defeated the second mizukage. He had an element adavantage as well. Gaara go this med-difficulty.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Did you watch the last fight between them?
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by bankaib4mv View Post
    Sasuke basically lost to gaara twice as a young bol and older. so i have to agree


    It's not even that. sasuke can't currently handle gaaras sand. His sands speed improved to the point where sasuke just can't match it anymore.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Sasuke's the clear winner. Dunno why Sasuke gets underrated so much whilst Itachi on the other hand.. :confused:
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by Rul View Post
    Sasuke's the clear winner. Dunno why Sasuke gets underrated so much whilst Itachi on the other hand.. :confused:

    Your reasoning behind that is??
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Gaara shits on Sasuke

    lol jk of course
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Sasuke's Amaterasu sword takes this one.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    You need more back up like scans if you really want to influence people. Although there is always that fanboi.....
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by bankaib4mv View Post
    Did you watch the last fight between them?
    Yes, and this happened



    Garra had to ran because he got a little injured......so tell me how did Garra beat Sasuke twice?
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

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    Sasuke's Amaterasu sword takes this one.

    That's getting through his defense how? We saw with madara that gaara is completely capable of blocking swords from the sussannoos that were attacking him. Also you think gaara is just going to stand there? Gaara can fly with his sands the chakra drain is minimal.
     
         
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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Sasuke hasnt won a good fight on his own yet or with out his oppenent killing theirself
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by Rul View Post
    Sasuke's the clear winner. Dunno why Sasuke gets underrated so much whilst Itachi on the other hand.. :confused:
    Cause sasuke is fodder compared to itachi. Sasukes biggest accomplishment with the ems is killing zetsu's. Thats sonething even ten-ten could do. And she has. So ten-ten and sasuke are equal.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

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    Yes, and this happened



    Garra had to ran because he got a little injured......so tell me how did Garra beat Sasuke twice?
    Did you stop reading after that? Gaara transformed into a mini shukaku and cleaned house against sasuke. While the fight was biased since he trashed temari prior he still lost which is the point being proven.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Gaara didnt he was taking out so he didnt transform. and after that in the woods when he fought naruto. saskue lost
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

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    Your reasoning behind that is??
    Gaara not being able to stop his amaterasu(not blaze release like before), he can't stop Susanoo or pull Sasuke out without Onoki, also Sasuke isn't bad at genjutsu he's actually very good and his tsukuyomi would cause a lot of problems to Gaara.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    SPEED: Sasuke in no way can get past gaara's ultimate defense like he did in the chuunin exams. We saw gaaras sand was fast enough to intercept the raikage in v2. That alone speaks for the speed his sand is capable of.
    Sasuke's speed has also improved and Gaara's sand is not faster than the Raikage. He managed to intercept the Raikage because he anticipated that the Raikage was going to attack Sasuke beforehand. Also it was a gravity based kick so A was not going at his full speed since the acceleration caused by gravity is constant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    TAIJUTSU: A worthless category for a fight involving sasuke vs gaara as sasuke does not nearly possess the speed needed to even beak through gaaras defense.
    Yet he already did and even if he doesn't have the speed, Sasuke has the arsenal with which to get through Gaara's sand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    KIRIN: At best kirin which couldn't even beak through the most basic sussannoo rib cage is not going to harm gaara. The fact of the matter is at best the sand will turn to glass. Gaara is capable of defending himself from it with a mass of sand. Not to mention the time it takes for sasuke to generate the amount of heat necessary for KIRIN is enough time for gaara to crate sand like he did with kimmimaro in order to defend himself.
    Kirin did break ribcage susanoo and it will certainly get through Gaara's sand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    AMATERASU: At best Amaterasu is not getting to gaara in the slightest way. His ultimate defense has already been shown to block Amaterasu something only A was able to accomplish by using body flicker plus v2.
    Sure but that was his special chakra infused sand. Amaterasu will burn away any regular sand that Gaara creates. Also Gaara can't defend against amaterasu forever as those flames will eventually burn away at Gaara's sand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    Sussannoo: we have seen how gaara can manipulate the sand underneath sussannoo in order to drag out the user. This can be done effectively and easily due to the fact that gaara can crate a desert and continue to fight as seen with kimmimaro
    Sasuke's chidori nagashi makes any attempt to pull him out of susanoo completely and utterly useless.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    Sussannoo arrows: Gaara has shown that he has the capability to deflect powerful physical attacks like kimmimaro hardest bone. If gaara wishes he may use that sand defense again plus he can sense with sand therefore eliminating the need for sight. The arrow is not going through the density of the sand. Matter of fact gaara can cause a tsunami of sand if you will and completely cover sussannoo and crush it under the desserts pressure depending on what form it is.
    Kimimaro's bones aren't as fast as susanoo arrows and neither are they more powerful than Sasuke's susanoo arrows. Also Gaara won't have time to create an adequate defence against those arrows.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    Tsukuyomi: This is the issue that gaara has. however it can be easily bested by sensing with the sand which he had been shown to do or not looking in his eyes.
    You act like Gaara will have sand everywhere or that he will be able to fight properly even without being able to see Sasuke.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    It's not that sasuke is weak but he has nothing on gaara. I only intended this thread to be about speed but I figured why not crush anything sasuke can do against gaara. This isn't intended on starting a flame war either. Sorry about not including pictures or links I'm on a phone lol.
    Sasuke has too much for Gaara and Hebi Sasuke could beat Gaara IMO. Susanoo is not needed.
     
         

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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    That's getting through his defense how? We saw with madara that gaara is completely capable of blocking swords from the sussannoos that were attacking him. Also you think gaara is just going to stand there? Gaara can fly with his sands the the chairs drain is minimal.
    And so can Sasuke



    You act as if Garra Sand got stronger over the years and Sasuke's Chidori has gotten any strong since part1........news flash Sasuke's Chidori was weak in part1 against Naruto's Rasengan but since the Final Valley his Chidori was in equal state as Naruto's Rasengan.
     
         
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    Re: why sasuke has nothing on gaara

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    That's getting through his defense how? We saw with madara that gaara is completely capable of blocking swords from the sussannoos that were attacking him. Also you think gaara is just going to stand there? Gaara can fly with his sands the the chairs drain is minimal.
    No, it's an Amaterasu Sword. It'll burn all the sand to ash, assuming that the sand can actually tank the pierce.

    Then Gaara's a clear shot for Enton, more Amaterasu, or another Susano'o Arrow. All three do extreme damage.

    Gaara's not fast enough to evade. He can only tank attacks, which he can only do for so long. It doesn't matter if he's in the air or not, so long as Sasuke can see him, he can hit him.

    Fact is, Gaara will be on the defensive during the whole fight, and eventually, he'll crumble. He himself can't do any damage against a Complete Susano'o.
     
         

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