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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

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    Stop repeating that lie Bogard. Clearly you have been proven wrong by Turson yet you still repeat that same crap. Sasuke had trouble with Bee's speed because of Bee's unorthodox movements and the fact that he didn't fully recover from his previous battle with Itachi. Also bear in mind the strain the MS put on Sasuke caused his speed and reaction skills to slow down since he had to develop a tolerance for that pain.

    OT: I'd say they are equal in foot speed and the data book supports my statement. Still if I were to vote on either one of them being faster, I'd say Sasuke.
    And i actually never agreed with Turson. It was only his opinion, and i gave him my reasons why i think Sasuke couldn't handle Bee in V2. Hell even in V1, he only dodged one punch and you say he could keep up? That's why he needed Karin to actually localise his positions? Even base Bee shunshined them so fast, that Sasuke didn't even saw him moving
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Quote Originally Posted by Zlad View Post
    Not underrated? People say Kakashi over Sasuke, would Kakashi be bale to dodge Deidara's bomb? Would he be able to dodge Bee's speed in tailed beast form? Nah.
    Read my following post , the one i posted after the one you replied to .


    I stated that Sasuke is Faster than Kakashi



    But , He was not being able to keep up with bee in Tailed Beast form .

    and allso , He Reverse Summoned himself from Deidaras Bomb , that has nothing to do with Him being fast or not .

    He is fast indeed , but you are choosing a bad basis for an argument
    Dont confuse things
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoSageUzumaki View Post
    Read my following post , the one i posted after the one you replied to .


    I stated that Sasuke is Faster than Kakashi



    But , He was not being able to keep up with bee in Tailed Beast form .

    and allso , He Reverse Summoned himself from Deidaras Bomb , that has nothing to do with Him being fast or not .

    He is fast indeed , but you are choosing a bad basis for an argument
    Dont confuse things
    ''Not even'' is a big word when A is the only one who have been able to dodge Bee's attack in tailed beast form, he stated that in the battle.

    I'm not talking about the summoning, i'm talking about dodge Deidara's bombs generally. Even Deidara came to say he is fast even when he hates Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Quote Originally Posted by Zlad View Post
    Not underrated? People say Kakashi over Sasuke, would Kakashi be bale to dodge Deidara's bomb? Would he be able to dodge Bee's speed in tailed beast form? Nah.
    I'm sure that if Kakashi was able to handle Hidan in close combat, then dodging a huge scale of fuuton attack in mid-air(while handling Hidan), and almost in a blind spot(surprised attack), then quickly come and save Choji and Shikamarus ass against Raiton gian, all that in quick succession, then it means that Kakashi is fast enough to dodge those attacks you're talking about:
    Hell, Hidan even stated that Kakashi was the first one to dodge their combos, it shows how fast he is
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    I put my money on sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    AHell even in V1, he only dodged one punch and you say he could keep up? That's why he needed Karin to actually localise his positions? Even base Bee shunshined them so fast, that Sasuke didn't even saw him moving
    Yes, even that one dodge is enough, considering that Sasuke himself said that although Bee is very fast, he moves only in linear fashion, therefore hes able to keep up with him with Sharingan. Sasuke asked Karin to keep an eye on Bee simply becuase Bee was hidden behind cloud of dust from the clash and Sasuke couldnt see him. Plus, like Icelerate said, Sasuke at that point was far from his top condition, since he was still recovering from his battle against Itachi.
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    They are both very fast, Sasuke is faster though.
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Kakashi is quite faster than Sasuke
    Cause as we all know Gai is faster than Sasuke, but Kakashi beat him in there foot race
     
         
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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Quote Originally Posted by Zlad View Post
    Not underrated? People say Kakashi over Sasuke, would Kakashi be bale to dodge Deidara's bomb? Would he be able to dodge Bee's speed in tailed beast form? Nah.
    Sasuke couldn't even outrun Deidaras bomb
    And Kakashi is evade Bees speed
    And I actually remember Sasuke getting hit by a Lariat, after he use the genjutsu on Bee during his fight
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Kakashi rivalized with Gai 6th gate with perfect timming.
    He's a bit faster imo.
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Sasuke
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Sasuke has a 4.5 in speed so does kakashi.

    However sasuke was able to outspeed deidara in their battle who also had a 4.5 in speed.

    Sasuke's shunshin is slightly ahead and the databook used a hyperbole there to describe it as well.

    Besides on feats he has fought itachi, bee who are both half a tier above kakashi in speed, itachi definitely with a 5 and Bee too which is my opinion.

    So yea, Sasuke is faster than kakashi, marginally.

    Note: Speed in databook includes both movement speed and reaction speed. It is the former that seems to be higher for sasuke imo in light of his battles.

    And going by feats, kakashi has more instances of being the slower of the two if we consider part 1 as well.
     
         
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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    I go with Kakashi
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    According to this war arc Kakashi is a lot faster than Sasuke who got raped by bee v2 in speed.
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    I'm sure that if Kakashi was able to handle Hidan in close combat, then dodging a huge scale of fuuton attack in mid-air(while handling Hidan), and almost in a blind spot(surprised attack), then quickly come and save Choji and Shikamarus ass against Raiton gian, all that in quick succession, then it means that Kakashi is fast enough to dodge those attacks you're talking about:
    Hell, Hidan even stated that Kakashi was the first one to dodge their combos, it shows how fast he is
    So you compare Hidan and Kakuzu to a tailed beast's speed?

    Sasuke was able to dodge a big explosion from Deidara, and even Deidara stated he was fast



    Bee says only hs brother have been able to dodge that attack



    I almost stated the same as you quoted me, but now here's my question: Do you think Kakashi would dodge Deidara's bomb and Bee's ''number eigth''?
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Sasuke is way faster than Kakashi...Kakashi improved his hand sign speed but overall speed that definitely goes to sasuke
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Sasuke is faster.
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

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    So you compare Hidan and Kakuzu to a tailed beast's speed?

    Sasuke was able to dodge a big explosion from Deidara, and even Deidara stated he was fast

    It's not about comparing opponents, but comparing the attacks they dodged, and yes i think Kakashis feat was more impressiv. Actually it was even a 2vs1, in the contrary of Sasuke who was fighting only one opponent, and the timing of their attack was almost perfect. They said it themselves. Kakashi was the first one to survive that. I never said Sasuke wasn't fast, but problem is that Kakashi is fast also. In fact this is what Sasuke dodged: And i find it less impressiv than what Kakashi did on the pic i posted. Actually Sasuke only dodged one bomb. Kakashi handled Hidan, dodge a huge fuuton attack(equivalent to Deidaras bomb in size and even faster to launch and reach) which was even a surprised attack in the contrary of Sasuke who saw it coming from the start, and even managed to quickly come and save Choji and Shikamarus ass. Personally, i find it far more impressiv than actually only dodging one Deidaras bomb
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    It's not about comparing opponents, but comparing the attacks they dodged, and yes i think Kakashis feat was more impressiv. Actually it was even a 2vs1, in the contrary of Sasuke who was fighting only one opponent, and the timing of their attack was almost perfect. They said it themselves. Kakashi was the first one to survive that. I never said Sasuke wasn't fast, but problem is that Kakashi is fast also. In fact this is what Sasuke dodged:
    And i find it less impressiv than what Kakashi did on the pic i posted. Actually Sasuke only dodged one bomb. Kakashi handled Hidan, dodge a huge fuuton attack(equivalent to Deidaras bomb in size and even faster to launch and reach) which was even a surprised attack in the contrary of Sasuke who saw it coming from the start, and even managed to quickly come and save Choji and Shikamarus ass. Personally, i find it far more impressiv than actually only dodging one Deidaras bomb
    Kakashi will also dodge C1 and C2 bombs. But he will not dodge the slightly faster and larger C2 bomb that clipped sasuke's wing.

    Same for sasuke. He will also manage to evade kakuzu or hidan combo attacks.

    Those are both reactionary feats from sharingan. Just looking at who can dodge what is not the best way to ascertain speed because of a number of factors.

    Someone with battle experience and decent taijutsu with precision of movement will evade an attack even in close range than someone with superior speed and bad taijutsu.

    Speed was outright stated to be 'movement+ reaction' speed in DB.

    Sharingan takes care of the latter. While body speed for both is approximately equal.

    That said, going by feats, in terms of who can use shunshin to enhance former, sasuke marginally eclipses kakashi.
     
         

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    Re: Who is faster ? Sasuke or Kakashi

    sasuke
     
         

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