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    Re: Dragon Ball Z, is not the strongest..

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    Ironically, the only character from Anime/Manga that comes.to mind that ca bea DBZ is a digimon.

    Some Marvel/DC Comics characters can do it too, the Demigods that is.
    I agree Digimon aswell.

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    Re: Dragon Ball Z, is not the strongest..

    Quote Originally Posted by Punch View Post
    No. It means false statement.
    Actually, it does mean exaggeration. Nice try, though.
     
         

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    Re: Dragon Ball Z, is not the strongest..

    of course it isnt.
    JJBA, ah my goddess, yugioh, TTGL, slayers, digimon, pokemon, demonbane, noein, melancholy of haruhi, tenchi muyo, bastard!, project A-ko, saint seiya to name a few.

    And i highly doubt that your anime is "Stronger" than DBZ anyways.
    saint seiya has nigh invincible gods who can wield enough power to match that of the big bang so basically they are full of universe busters.

    Cell could have easily destroyed a solar system, so i'm Gohan, Goku and Buu should be able to destroy a galaxy.
    no they shoudlnt. they arent milliions of times above cell which is what it would take.


    Your delusional, anyone who could even punch a DBZ character would at most tickle them. Think about SSJ4 Gogeta's power, you think anyone can even touch him?
    kami tenchi, haruka, demonbane, TTGL, anti spiral, lord of nightmares, arceus, chousein, counter actor, Z, hades, apollo, dark schnieder to name a few

    Ironically, the only character from Anime/Manga that comes.to mind that ca bea DBZ is a digimon
    well zeedmilleniumon certainly

    Brolly could destroy entire galaxies by himself
    no he cant. he only attacked it in japanese dub
     
         

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    Re: Dragon Ball Z, is not the strongest..

    Nah.

    DBZ = G.O.A.T.
     
         

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    Re: Dragon Ball Z, is not the strongest..

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    of course it isnt.
    JJBA, ah my goddess, yugioh, TTGL, slayers, digimon, pokemon, demonbane, noein, melancholy of haruhi, tenchi muyo, bastard!, project A-ko, saint seiya to name a few.
    seriously dude just what the **** are you smoking o_O I mean seriously Yu-Gi-Oh! (nothing but cards) None of them can move fast enough to compare to the speeds of DBZ, Pokemon Not fast enough, hell most of them aren't fast nor strong enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    saint seiya has nigh invincible gods who can wield enough power to match that of the big bang so basically they are full of universe busters.
    Right,, All the Saiyan's of the Z warriors can destroy planets with a blink of their eye, Buu destroyed planets as if they were peas, Freiza ruled the universe until Goku nearly killed him (and Trunks finished him and his daddy off) Vegeto is considered the strongest cannon character of DBZ who I can pretty much bet could have destroyed whatever the hell he wanted to lol

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    no they shoudlnt. they arent milliions of times above cell which is what it would take.
    Alright fess up dude are you an idiot (sorry I usually don't troll people but you make an exception here with such idiotic comments as this) Gohan with one arm broken killed Cell. Goku after the time skip could go Super Saiyan 3 (that alone made planets unstabble if he maintained too long), Gohan after the elder kai released Gohan's powers was stronger than a Super Saiyan 3, Goku and Vegeta fusing into Vegeto....Oh and then there is Buu, who took on not only SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, Mystic Gohan, Super Vegeto, Majin Buu, SSJ3 Gotenks yeah....none of them are million's of times stronger then Cell -_-" They in fact are if not 10's of millions then 100's of millions if not a few billion above Cells Power Level :/


    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    kami tenchi, haruka, demonbane, TTGL, anti spiral, lord of nightmares, arceus, chousein, counter actor, Z, hades, apollo, dark schnieder to name a few
    Despite your talking back against a DBGT character (and I normally agree with talking back or down about them) in terms of power, no none of those characters could touch SSJ4 Gogeta infact he probably wouldn't feel it.

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    well zeedmilleniumon certainly
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    no he cant. he only attacked it in japanese dub
    Ummm yeah....yeah he could, very easily if he wasn't stopped I am pretty damned certain he would
     
         

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    Re: Dragon Ball Z, is not the strongest..

    mean seriously Yu-Gi-Oh! (nothing but cards)
    holographic cards based on real gods who duelled thousands of years ago and have an omnipotent creator god

    None of them can move fast enough to compare to the speeds of DBZ, Pokemon Not fast enough,\
    all of them are either time controllers or massively FTL. pokemons got dialga.
    here is his profile
    Origin: Pokemon
    Gender: Genderless
    Classification: Temporal Pokemon, Master of Time, God
    Age: Unknown, as old as the universe itself.
    Powers and Abilities: Super speed, strength, durability, flight, reality warping, time manipulation, elemental and energy attacks, telepathy, transmutation, telekinesis
    Weaknesses: The Oracion song can calm his most savage rage.
    Destructive Capacity: Low multiversal with reality manipulation (seemingly barfed up and later destroyed a parallel universe in conjunction with Palkia). | Multi-city block level with standard attacks, City level+ with time manipulation by feats. Has performed multi-millenia time jumps and infinite time loops, and even maintained contact with someone thousands of years in the past while fighting Arceus.
    Range: Dimensional | Universal+
    Speed: Unknown, quite possibly FTL to some degree since the Elgyem species is heavily implied to have FTL tech by broadcasting images of 5 galaxies into a postman's head | Likely supersonic movement/combat speed, hypersonic reactions. Palkia and Dialga were both seen dodging each others' attacks in spurts after said attacks had been launched.
    Durability: Likely equal to destructive capacity, energy being of some sort, potentially Abstract (credited with the beginning of time upon birth) | City level+ in sealed form, Potentially universal inside the dimension of time (no longer needs this as its full power was unlocked by the Lake Trio).
    Strength: Unknown | 100+ tons going by powerscaling
    Stamina: Nigh-limitless (casually created a universe without breaking much of a sweat and continued to rage afterwards)
    Standard Equipment: None.
    Intelligence: Smart and crafty. Dialga caught Giratina in a time loop to avoid confrontation. Used time travel as a means to stop Arceus from destroying humanity when the combined might of the Dragon trio failed.

    Notable Attacks/Techniques:

    - Roar of Time: A powerful dragon type move. The diamond on Dialga's chest starts glowing and the fan shaped spines on his back grow when charging this attack. When complete it launches a stream of energy at his foe that is strong enough to distort time.

    Dialga launches its Roar of Time

    - Hyper Beam: A powerful standard Pokemon attack. Energy is condensed in a small ball before being fired with extreme force. Aside from Spacial Rend and Roar of Time clashing a collision of Hyper Beams was the only other attack felt through the weakened spacial barrier in Rise of Darkrai.

    - Draco Meteor: A powerful dragon type move. A small rift appears above Dialga's head, summoning a cluster of small comet - like objects to bombard his foes with.

    - Protect: A defensive move that shields its user from incoming attacks with an energy field. Dialga was able to block Spacial Rend with it.

    - Temporal Warp: Dialga warps time as he sees fit by willing it. This has been used to do things as simple as make clocks run in reverse or as complex as large time jumps. Even an infinite time loop isn't beyond his ability. Perhaps one of the most broken aspects of time manipulation is the ability for multiple copies of yourself to exist at the same point in time. Celebi once did this to revive one of their fallen. It's not certain they were all the same being but we can't say for sure they weren't... Dialga should be able to do this via powerscaling. Is also repeatedly used as a tool for active retcons in various media. (lol Arceus)


    as you can see....hes beastly

    Right,, All the Saiyan's of the Z warriors can destroy planets with a blink of their eye,
    wrong. they need to charge up a huge attack then throw it. sailor galaxia was LITERALLY pointing a finger and planets imploded before her power. and planet busting is relatively low scale for the real top animes. as i said saint seiya are quite possibly universe busters. check out this guy
    Name: Hades
    Origin: Saint Seiya (original manga, Next Dimension and The Lost Canvas, also mentioned in Episode G)
    Gender: Male
    Classification: Olympian Champion, God of the Underworld
    Age: Unknown (exists since mythological times, thousands of years at least)
    Powers and Abilities: Skilled warrior and swordsman, through divine Cosmo (Big Will) has super strength, super speed, enhanced durability, telepathy, telekinesis (see the Greatest Eclipse, he could also lift with his mind the Elysion Sacred Vase that God Saints Seiya and Ikki couldn't budge when attacking it at the same time), illusions, energy blasts, forcefields (he could set up permanent ones in big areas, greatly depowering Gold Saints that stepped inside), levitation/flight, deflection of lesser attacks back to his attackers (his aura deflected God Saint Seiya's Pegasus Ryusei Ken attack that could easily beat Thanatos to near death), higher senses to track people and events over long distances and through dimensions, dimensional traveling/portal creation, regeneration (low-mid at least), total control over his soul that allows him to keep it out of his true body while retaining power and being able to attack, possess people and reincarnate through mortals, power over death that allows him to induce it in the living, resurrect people or make them immortal, immortality (mix of types 1 and 4) and reality warping (he gave new bodies to the resurrected Gold Saints, created the Underworld afterlife realm governed by his rules that had held and judged humanity's souls since the mythological age, the Elysion utopian world reserved for the just and the God-chosen, and the Super Dimension linked to both of them that contained billions of galaxies and whose path to Elysion as a final barrier could completely destroy Gold Cloths and their wielders despite their durability and capacity to resist telekinesis and matter manipulation). In The Lost Canvas he showed he could trap the souls of his enemies into illusory Dream Worlds contained inside a special dimension that was ruled by some of his underling deities
    Weaknesses: While still very powerful, his soul occupying a mortal body seems to be weaker than Hades with his true body/armor and it's possible to seal it with a divine power higher than his, since he's fond of keeping his true body and Surplice armor stored in Elysion while his soul possesses the body of the purest human being on Earth
    Destructive Capacity: Multi galaxy+/Dimension+/Universe level+ (the loss of his power through his death destroyed everything he created undoing the Greatest Eclipse at the same time, he also fought against the Titans with the rest of the Olympians for 10 years back when the Titans were unsealed.)
    Range: Cross-dimensional/Solar System to Universal+
    Speed: Massively FTL+ (much faster than Gold Saints, also fought with no trouble against the Bronze Saints when they had acquired their God Cloths)
    Durability: At least multi galaxy level+/Universe level+ with Surplice
    Strength: Class 100+ (can cut God Cloths without difficulty)
    Stamina: Seemingly endless (his existence sustained his creation for thousands of years at least)
    Standard Equipment: Surplice armor (speculated to be his true Olympian Kamui) and sword with their own Cosmo signature
    Intelligence: Has years of experience fighting wars against other Gods, most notably the Titans
    Notable Attacks/Techniques:

    - Greatest Eclipse: From the Underworld and while possessing Shun, Hades willed all the planets of the Solar System into permanently aligning in a matter of minutes to punish humanity into dying out in a frozen wasteland. Athena couldn't reverse this effect on her own as long as Hades was alive.



    - Divine curse: Through his sword his lingering hate could inflict a spiritual wound (shaped as his sword, invisible except to Gods) that blocks the lifeforce and power of his enemy, induces a coma and eventually causes death through the sword slowly moving into the body of the victim. It was used against God Saint Seiya so he would never reincarnate again and even after the death of Hades it's hard to remove by other Olympian Gods, prompting Athena to attempt to change history in order to save him.


    oh my god...

    Gohan with one arm broken killed Cell. Goku after the time skip could go Super Saiyan 3 (that alone made planets unstabble if he maintained too long), Gohan after the elder kai released Gohan's powers was stronger than a Super Saiyan 3, Goku and Vegeta fusing into Vegeto....Oh and then there is Buu, who took on not only SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, Mystic Gohan, Super Vegeto, Majin Buu, SSJ3 Gotenks yeah....none of them are million's of times stronger then Cell -_-"
    correct. i would say at best 100x. the gap of ssj2 to ssj3 is only x4. if gohan is stronger than ssj3 goku then its probably only about 3x above. all those guys into buu makes buu at best 100x above cell. that makes him a multi star system buster as he can by powerscaling destroy 100x what cell can in one shot. there are BILLIONS of star systems in a galaxy. buu would sooner die of old freaking age


    Ummm yeah....yeah he could, very easily if he wasn't stopped
    he was destroying it star system by star system over a period of 30 years cos of his dad

    Despite your talking back against a DBGT character (and I normally agree with talking back or down about them) in terms of power, no none of those characters could touch SSJ4 Gogeta infact he probably wouldn't feel it.
    wrong. kami tenchi and lord of nightmares are omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient and immortal/invincible. omnipotent means they can do literally anything they damn well want. infinite stamina, infinite strength, infinite matter manipulation, infinite time manipulation, infinite everything in terms of power. omnipresent means they are everywhere so if dbz has multiple timelines, gogeta needs a time machine to traverse each one and kill kami tenchi in it. since he cant kami tenchi flicks his finger at gogeta and accidently implodes the db multiverse. omnisicient means he knows everything and with infinite intelligence he can look at dbz universe and instantly know everything about it and any saiyan weak points. he'd know gogeta has 10 minutes. he'd know gogetas flesh and blood and could just remove all the blood from gogetas body. or maybe trap him in an unending illusion controlling all 5 senses. goku and vegeta have rarely come up against something like this.
    he wouldnt bother as hes omnipotent after all. just thinking about it could cause the whole db universe to implode.
    as for the others, TTGL was throwing galaxies, is massivey FTL, has reality warping, is bigger than galaxies etc. and we know for a fact gogetas not billions of times above cell. thatd be impossible. even though we havent really seen gogeta do anything impressive. all you know about his strength is from powerscaling and in gt, the feats and powerscaling are either inconsistent or bad.
    tell me when a dbz character can pick up and throw a galaxy. dw ill wait

    haruka: well she can control whats real and whats not and is effectively a god and KNOWS it whats more. could reset the universe or destroy it if she has but think about it.
    chousein, all three of them, are multiversal level gods. only counter actor can defeat them and only kami tenchi can defeat HER.

    Note Even
    The strongest Digimon that ever existed.

    Name: ZeedMillenniummon
    Origin: Digimon
    Gender: Male
    Age: Unknown
    Classification: Evil God Digimon, Mega/Ultimate level
    Powers and Abilities: Super Strength, flight/levitation, time manipulation, teleportation, intangibility, transmutation, telepathy, dimensional/universal manipulation, governs all space and time, can consign his opponents to the gulf beyond space-time and has a Fractal Code to negate his powers, etc.
    Weaknesses: Ryo, his mere presence weakened Zeed. Zeed’s seal negates his full/true power, if the seal is released, then everything – all time and space will be destroyed.
    Destructive Capacity: Multiverse level
    Range: Multiversal
    Speed: Not omnipresent level
    Durability: Multiverse level
    Strength: Class 100+
    Stamina: Infinite
    Intelligence: Knowledge of many universes, including the past, present and future. He's shown motives that suggest significant foresight, he is brilliantly intelligent in his plots. Is also a member of Gaia Origin (Digimon World: Dawn/Dusk).
    Notable Attacks/Techniques:

    - Fallen Hell: Makes a dark portal which pulls everything around him into a "chaos world" and putting the whole universe into total darkness.

    - Chrono Paradox: Fires two atomic rays out of his mouths that destroy everything in their way and can destroy a whole universe in a single shot.

    - Time Destroyer: Sends his enemies to the other side of space-time
     
         

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