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    The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    There are 2 people who will be the strongest in the end of the series. One of them is the main character Ichigo Kurosaki, and the other is the man who tied with Ichigo in their first battle Zaraki Kenpachi.

    Now people will complain and say, " no the other captains are stronger" or say, "He got his ass kicked".

    Him getting his ass handed to him by the emperor is no big deal why? Because even Yamamoto just got his handed to him.

    Kenpachi's name means "Strongest shinigami". Basically its foreshadowing that he will become strong , VERY STRONG and end up as the strongest. He defeated 3 quincies while the other captains struggled. And on top of that he has still not unlocked his sword's powers.

    So yea, Kenny-boy and Ichi-boy will be the Top shinigamis at the end of the series. And technically if you think about it (Even though there fight is considered a draw) Kenpachi was the last person standing. ;3
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster nagato View Post
    byakuya>kenpachi
    mayori>kenpachi maybe

    you ment byakuya and ichigo also juna owned kenny with no scratch
    Lets see Kenpachi kills 3 quincies.. Byakuya gets killed by 1. Kenpachi > byakuya and mayori.

    Kenny and Ichigo will be on pars.
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    karaki and ichigo yup. i think renji is cool too
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    byakuya>kenpachi
    mayori>kenpachi maybe

    you ment byakuya and ichigo also juna owned kenny with no scratch
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Yeah Kenpachi>Byakuya and Mayori. Hes the 5th strongest captian.
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCloudsBlackLightning View Post
    Yeah Kenpachi>Byakuya and Mayori. Hes the 5th strongest captian.
    Right now yes. But I would say him and Ichigo are on par. Any shinigami that goes against the Emperor will get his ass handed to him. So thats why its not a big deal at the moment.

    I only see Yamamoto, Unohana , Ukitake, Shunsui, above kenpachi. So yea the 5th strongest. ^_^
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster nagato View Post
    abc logic also doesnt work kenpachi isnt surviving Gōkei its said to have 100 millions blades kenpachi gets raped by they way the creator makes byakuya and kenpachi progess as a pair

    also kenny tied with pre bankai ichigo byakuya owned pre bankai ichgo also owned bankai ichigo untill he used his mask
    Abc logic always works. Ichigo survived it , yet Kenpachi a guy who literally tougher then Ichigo can't? ok buddy. Dude Byakuya is DEAD. Kenpachi and Ichigo progress togather, if you haven't been paying attention.
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Lets see Kenpachi kills 3 quincies.. Byakuya gets killed by 1. Kenpachi > byakuya and mayori.

    Kenny and Ichigo will be on pars.
    abc logic also doesnt work kenpachi isnt surviving Gōkei its said to have 100 millions blades kenpachi gets raped by they way the creator makes byakuya and kenpachi progess as a pair

    also kenny tied with pre bankai ichigo byakuya owned pre bankai ichgo also owned bankai ichigo untill he used his mask
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster nagato View Post
    abc logic also doesnt work kenpachi isnt surviving Gōkei its said to have 100 millions blades kenpachi gets raped by they way the creator makes byakuya and kenpachi progess as a pair

    also kenny tied with pre bankai ichigo byakuya owned pre bankai ichgo also owned bankai ichigo untill he used his mask
    Kenpachi's reitsu and two-handed slashes would blow away the pedals.
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCloudsBlackLightning View Post
    Kenpachi's reitsu and two-handed slashes would blow away the pedals.
    calling them pedals lmfao its 100 million he isnt blowing away all that byakuya>kenny al he does is slices
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster nagato View Post
    calling them pedals lmfao its 100 million he isnt blowing away all that byakuya>kenny al he does is slices
    you tend to dwell in the past alot. The fact of the matter is Kenny fought a tougher guy then Byakuya right when Ichigo was fighting Byakuya. And then He owned the 5th Espada.. while Ichigo had trouble with him. And now 3 quincies...
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    its very obvious kurosaki will be the strongest, the series is based on him
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by neilson View Post
    its very obvious kurosaki will be the strongest, the series is based on him
    Main point is Kenpachi.. Kurosaki actually doesn't have to be the strongest.. You do have to remember that he is a human...
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    that would be cool
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Abc logic always works. Ichigo survived it , yet Kenpachi a guy who literally tougher then Ichigo can't? ok buddy. Dude Byakuya is DEAD. Kenpachi and Ichigo progress togather, if you haven't been paying attention.
    ...your way off man!!! Infact your too off!!!!!!

    Kenpachi stronger then current Ichigo???? I also like Ken way better then most of the other captains but the truth of reality cant be misplaced by your personal likings. Ken is only stronger then Ichigo when he is not in Bankai and is using that long, thick and slow black sword. But either then that Ken will get wasted if Ichi uses bankai in his current form anyday! He doesnt even need a hollow mask to do it right now!!

    The story revolves around Ichigo and incase YOU HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION (WHICH YOU HAVEN'T BY YOUR COMMENT ) Ichigo, Rukia, & Renji are the only sword fighters that progress with eachother! Other then the sword attackers are Orihime, Ishida, Chad, & sometimes the Ice Captain and her vice!
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    BTW, their are a lot of captains which we are curious to see use bankai. 1 of them even being Urahara!

    A man who is similar and next in line after Kenpachi in strength and is also sick is Kensei. Just look at this guy!



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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCloudsBlackLightning View Post
    Yeah Kenpachi>Byakuya and Mayori. Hes the 5th strongest captian.
    Ichigo couldn't beat Byakuya w/o bankai but he could beat Kenpachi with shikai. Common sense
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Umm this is wrong on so many levels we know not how powerful this list is.
    Rojuro otoribashi
    Retsu unohana
    Shunsui
    Ukitake
    Shinji Hirako
    Kisuke uraharra
    Kirio hikifune
    Genrei kuchiki
    The original squad 3 captain who retired.

    Also on a side note you are being biased to kenpachi. I would like to point this out he is the 10th kenpachi which means there has been so many kenpachi's that this title has lost meaning. Especially by the way he got owned.

    Second note we know not how powerful the soul king is this man in my eyes is ranked 1 until we learn more about his history.
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirio hikifune View Post
    Umm this is wrong on so many levels we know not how powerful this list is.
    Rojuro otoribashi
    Retsu unohana
    Shunsui
    Ukitake
    Shinji Hirako
    Kisuke uraharra
    Kirio hikifune
    Genrei kuchiki
    The original squad 3 captain who retired.

    Also on a side note you are being biased to kenpachi. I would like to point this out he is the 10th kenpachi which means there has been so many kenpachi's that this title has lost meaning. Especially by the way he got owned.

    Second note we know not how powerful the soul king is this man in my eyes is ranked 1 until we learn more about his history.
    Yamamoto was the number 1 strongest Shinigami period. So yea. And Didn't the strongest shinigami sould society has to offer also get Owned?

    Kenpachi named himself "Kenpachi" before coming to the Divisions. So yea.
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Yamamoto was the number 1 strongest Shinigami period. So yea. And Didn't the strongest shinigami sould society has to offer also get Owned?

    Kenpachi named himself "Kenpachi" before coming to the Divisions. So yea.
    He is the 10th kenpachi which says not much hype they come they fall. Plus we don't know if he is dead yet or not.
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Kenpachi's name means "Strongest shinigami". Basically its foreshadowing that he will become strong , VERY STRONG and end up as the strongest. He defeated 3 quincies while the other captains struggled. And on top of that he has still not unlocked his sword's powers.
    There are so many things wrong with this.

    There is a reason why Kenpachi managed to take down 3 Stern Ritters while everyone else had trouble. He did not have a Bankai to steal. He didn't have to fight with his arms behind his back like everyone else. It doesn't matter if he doesn't have a Bankai. What matters is he was able to fight at 100% while the other Captains couldn't. And no. He won't get a Bankai. Get over it.

    "Kenpachi" is a title that means the strongest in your generation. This does not mean he will be the strongest Shinigami. You're taking his name too literally. It's not meant that way. He himself made it his name. That's it.
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Smoke View Post
    ...your way off man!!! Infact your too off!!!!!!

    Kenpachi stronger then current Ichigo???? I also like Ken way better then most of the other captains but the truth of reality cant be misplaced by your personal likings. Ken is only stronger then Ichigo when he is not in Bankai and is using that long, thick and slow black sword. But either then that Ken will get wasted if Ichi uses bankai in his current form anyday! He doesnt even need a hollow mask to do it right now!!

    The story revolves around Ichigo and incase YOU HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION (WHICH YOU HAVEN'T BY YOUR COMMENT ) Ichigo, Rukia, & Renji are the only sword fighters that progress with eachother! Other then the sword attackers are Orihime, Ishida, Chad, & sometimes the Ice Captain and her vice!
    now your way off!
    Ichi struggled agaist grimmjaw with the evolved mask on in bankai ..........yet kenny beat espada no.5 nwent on to beat no. 0 tooo........this tells you even in bankai if they bout again.......who knows what will happen!
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaviour View Post
    Ichigo couldn't beat Byakuya w/o bankai but he could beat Kenpachi with shikai. Common sense
    byakuya couldnt beat any quincy!!!!!!!!!!
    kenpachi killed 3!!!!!!!!! Common sense!:D
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    There are so many things wrong with this.

    There is a reason why Kenpachi managed to take down 3 Stern Ritters while everyone else had trouble. He did not have a Bankai to steal. He didn't have to fight with his arms behind his back like everyone else. It doesn't matter if he doesn't have a Bankai. What matters is he was able to fight at 100% while the other Captains couldn't. And no. He won't get a Bankai. Get over it.

    "Kenpachi" is a title that means the strongest in your generation. This does not mean he will be the strongest Shinigami. You're taking his name too literally. It's not meant that way. He himself made it his name. That's it.
    please note: he took them out at ease (we know kenny likes to give opponents a chance to slice him up....bt in this case he was unscratched) he even had the eye patch on!
    theres a reason why he along with ICHIGO n AIZEN are among the special war potentials.......common sense!
    its lame saying the other captains were fighting with an arm tied around their backs.........with that logic then yama jii could have had trouble facing the 4 quincy he killed!
     
         

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    Re: The Ones who will be the strongest at the end of the series

    Kenny is beast, you should ad this


    according to kubo, when he draw bleach, he leaves few secrets in the manga that he expect few readers to notice.

    there are total 4 levels of secrets

    first level is the easiest, he expected every reader to be able to notice it
    the second level is a bit harder, about 1 in 4 people to 1 in 10 people can notice it
    the third level is even harder, probably only 1 in a thousand can see though it


    now, to the last level, which according to kubo, is something he put in from the beginning and something he intend to reveal in the grand finale of the manga, something he thought no one would be able to decipher
    and that is... ZARAKI's TRUE POWER LEVEL


    when kubo read the ending part of the novel(the climax of the battle between zaraki and that 8th kenpachi), he said he was so shocked that Narita actually understood his bleach to the core and saw through zaraki's true potential
    apparently he was so excited and happy that he read that part over and over again...

    so, yeah, kubo was planning to reveal zaraki as uber powerful at the end of the manga, but somehow this Narita guy spoiled us...

    below are the few feats of novel zaraki. Again, it's from 2ch, so whether to believe it or not is up to you

    ...........................

    apparently Zaraki has always been this powerful, but his special ability (or should i say handicap) is to automatically adjust his power level to his opponents, so he'll enjoy the fight longer.

    there are only two person aizen didn't want to face before acquiring immortal body from break sphere, one was yama, so he create wonderwise so specifically counter him, the other one is zaraki, so aizen lured him to hueno mueno by kidnapping orihime.

    zaraki's riatsu severs as a defensive armor that protect him from all sorts of hax

    acording to shien(the enhanced version of sayza appolo, the one with same amount of riatsu as h2 ichigo), when zaraki's fighting him, zaraki's strength at the moment is so strong that he could easily blow away baragan's respia and stark's wolves. (and since zaraki's riatsu=shien's riatsu=h2 ichigo's riatsu at this moment, i suppose h2 ichigo can also do this. maybe that's a confirmation that h2 ichigo is stronger than all other Espadas?)
    Shien also used the voodoo doll on zaraki, he created dozens of them, but all of the dolls were too hard for him to break, so yeah even if you have same amount of riatsu as zaraki, your hax still won't work on him

    during the fight between zaraki and 8th kenpachi, he endured hunreds of itto kaiso without much of damage. Even 8th kenpachi's ability, whichi fuse himself against his opponents and break their bodies from inside, is nullified by zaraki's riatsu.
    and finally, in the final bout between zaraki and the 8th kenpachi, none of the other spectators were able to sense their riatsu, which may suggests that both zaraki and 8th kenpachi are at transcendent level (at least in this final moment)

    oh, and the amount of riatsu his eye pad now absorbs is 10 times more than before the time skip...

    Warning: This is just a comment/spoiler provided by Japanese fans, it could be a fake one, but 7th gen, シエン, and 8th gen's info sounds ok as other bloggers also mention it.

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    零番队に勧诱されるほどの猛者。
    その卍解、饿乐廻廊は半径数霊里( � �ラクラ町の数倍)にある
    生物・非生物まとめて粉々にする规 � �外のものだが
    使用すると半年解放出来なくなる诸 � �の剣。
    使えばたぶん痣城に胜っていたらし � �が
    周りに享楽や11番队らがいて使わなか った。

    46室によって瀞霊邸での使用を禁 � �られているが
    始解でも圧倒的に强いので问题なし � �しい。
    Kuruyashiki Kenpachi (7th Generation Kenpachi)

    A stalwart that induced by zero squads. (don’t know how to translate)
    His bankai “饿乐廻廊” ability is to destroyed/crushed all living things and non living things within the area of certain radius ( several times bigger than Karakura Town).
    But once he have use it, he can’t release it within half a year
    (meaning, he only can use his bankai once every 6 months)
    During his battle with Azashiro Kenpachi, Shunsui and 11th division members were there, so he did not use his bankai.
    According to 46 chamber, his bankai is forbidden in Sereitei, but the problem is his shikai is extremely powerful as well.



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    地狱のザエルアポロを食うまでは
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    剣八とハイテンションで戦っている � �き、
    暴走悪魔莓と同等の霊圧があると石 � �が证言した。
    (シエン) Shien? who?


    Szayel apporo’s complete backup person (?) who was once an espada.
    He acquires information from Illforde that can surpass the power of Yammy- 0 espada.
    Among the espada in the beginning , the number is 0.
    Before eating up Szayel Apporo- who has fallen to hell, his body will collapses during the battle because his presence is still incomplete.
    Ishida says during his battle with Kenpachi, his reiatsu is the same as Hichigo.

    Thanks Ishida
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    so Szayel is not the real Szayel but a Shien. I wonder is Shien is just japanese for Cien which is spanish for a hundred. From one of the pics. Szayel had the tattoo of 100 on his eyeball. Being 100 or Cien makes him a Privaron Espada.
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    さらには空気中から刃を作り出しノ � �モーションで敌を斩杀できる。
    (例えば相手が始解しようとした瞬 � �その舌を切断するなんてのも可能
    生体融合による敌の内部破壊は拒绝 � �応で自分にもダメージが及ぶ奥の � ��
    刳屋敷剣八はその初手でなんとか倒 � �た。

    防御面に関しては、痣城自身が空気 � �融合しているため斩撃が通じない
    过去に队长格含めた死神(浮&享の � �人はいない)を
    まとめてフルボッコにしたが自身は � �一つつかなかった。
    ただし零番队の介入に気がついて自 � �した。队长とはやはり次元が违う � ��い。

    拟骸の口と手を空间に出现させるこ � �により
    一刀火葬・黒棺クラスの上级鬼道を � �百にも及ぶ数で同时咏唱可能。
    また、暴走悪魔莓と同等の霊圧を持 � �シエンと剣八の戦いを见ても
    「この程度か。ならば、まだ私の有 � �は动かない」
    と言い放った。 弱点は弓亲やクインシーの霊圧吸収 � �巻き添えでもダメージを受けるこ � ��
    卍解中は锻錬ができないので本人の � �体的なスペックが低いこと。
    一度融合を解くと瀞霊邸を全て支配 � �るのに1年はかかることなど。
    完全催眠の违和感に気づいて看破す � �のに2日かかっている。
    Azashiro Kenpachi ( the 8th Generation Kenpachi)

    His bankai ability is (融合) “fusion/merge” , and the area is the entire of Sereitei hence he is able to see through all situation and to hear everyone’s conversation.
    Besides, he can produced a blade/razor from the air, killing his enemy with no motion. (eg: the moment his enemy releases shikai, he chops down his enemy’s tongue)
    Finally, he has an ultimate attack call “ living body fusion” (生体融合), by opposing his enemy he can destroy his enemy’s internal body, an attack that even can damage himself.
    Kuruyashiki Kenpachi was defeated by this attack.
    As for defensive, Azashiro can fused with the air, hence all the slash from his enemy has no effect on him.
    Every captain class shinigami from the past attacks him with their move (not include Uki and Shun), but Azashiro did not receive any injuries.
    However, he surrendered when noticing an intervation from the Zero squads.
    It seems like there is a different level between the Zero squad and Captain.
    Because he can imitate/copy his mouth and hands within each spaces, he is able to chant hundreds of “ittokaso”, “kurohitsugi” level kido at the same time.
    Also, when he saw the battles betweenシエン(Shien) who has the same reiatsu as hichigo and Kenpachi, he says : “only this level? Well then, I have the advantageous”.
    His weakness is the involvement of Yumichika and Quincy’s reiatsu absorption which he will receive the damage. (unsure of this part)
    Due to low physical specs, he is unable to train in his bankai. (again not sure)
    He takes about 1 year to fully understand and to dominate sereitei.
    He takes about 2 days to sees through Kyouka Suigetsu.



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    更木剣八(十一代目剣八)

    相手の强さに合わせて自分のレベル � �调整する。、
    爱染が崩玉を覚醒させて不灭の肉体 � �持つまでは
    戦うべきではないと判断して隔离作 � �とったほどの强さ。
    また、痣城の更木に対する胜率は1 � �だと予测する。

    シエンは自分と戦っているこの剣八 � �ら
    バラガンの呪いを切り裂りさくこと � �できるし
    スタークの牙も臓腑に届くこともな � �と断言。
    事実、シエンが无数の剣八のミニチ � �アを作り
    内蔵の远隔破壊をしようとするも
    ミニチュアの内蔵自体が异常に硬く � �伤一つつかなかった。

    终盘の痣城戦では数百にも及ぶ多重 � �刀火葬を受けても
    たいしたダメージは与えられないレ � �ルとなった。
    ついには空気と融合しているはずの � �城を
    空気ごと切ってダメージを与え、
    刳屋敷を倒した生体融合をも霊圧の � �で打ち破った。

    痣城が瀞霊邸との融合を解除して双 � �を遥かに上回る矛をつくり出し、
    剣八がそれを両手で迎え撃ったとき � �
    一般队士たちは両者の霊圧をまった � �感じられなくなっていた。

    现在のオサレ眼帯は昔の10倍の霊 � �吸引力。

    Zaraki Kenpachi (11th division Kenpachi)

    Not gonna translate it, seems soo mugetsu level and soo hype =-=, don’t know if it’s fake or not.
    the guy says the reason Aizen abduct orihime it’s because he wants to seal Zaraki Kenpachi..I mean wtf? That doesn't make any sense.
    Although there’s also mention that シエン (shien?) creates a lot of Kenpachi doll, but internal organ of the doll itself is too hard, hence Kenpachi did not suffer major damage.
    During his battle with Azashiro, he sustain hundreds of ittokaso, still not much damage, even his ultimate attack living body fusion, kenpachi negate it with his reiatsu. Kenpachi then kendo-ed him.
     
         

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