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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    @ Those that think killing Kabuto = unable to release the Edo ability:

    He-lloooo, Kabuto taught Tobi the ability.

    Pwnt.
     
         
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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    The simple answer is its unknown and if anything because sasuke will NOT die before he fights naruto he has plot no jutsu on his side, lets be real here . However even though a sasuke fan im extremely tied in what i can say in his favour. Reason for people going for kabuto without hesitating is because sasuke performed poorly in that fight. However sasuke's fighting style has NEVER been fighting to capture and the manga shouldve made that clear. During his mission with itachi i believe the mission was to capture the pig and sasuke accidentally killed it. Similarly he wasnt too convincing against kill bee and in the end used amaterasu, a technique that shouldnt be used if you plan on capturing your opponent. To put it simple sasuke isnt disciplined in that art and that is why he didnt look convincing. However id agree that kabuto would still be favourite however this isnt always true.

    Sasuke has amaterasu a technique that will come to his aid if needed. We saw that kabuto retreated when sasuke used amaterasu and molded it into enton kagutsuchi to protect himself and itachi and kabuto commented not only on amaterasu's offensive capabilities but also its defensive capabilities. Now kabuto has shown his sensoring skills but also ability to shed his skin. However if sasuke was to spam/control and make amaterasu spread throughout the whole cave with amaterasu kabuto would surely be troubled. Firstly sasuke gains the advantage because its his technique and its him who is in control of it, he has turned the environment into his advantage. Secondly muki tensei that was nullified by amaterasu's heat which again would go against kabuto.

    Finally ill let you in on a secret about sound based genjutsu. Majority believe its unavoidable because its sound based, however the manga disagrees. Sound based genjutsu travel through the air. If the ninja can potentially disrupt the air around them they could potentially nullify this technique because they are basically disrupting what is carrying the genjutsu from the user to the opponent, air. Temari showed us an example of this when she countered tayuya's Mateki Mugen Onsa with her fan,







    As shikamaru said "That thing can deflect the sound of the flute......"
    + Rep agreed with everything except the Amaterasu/Enton Kagutushi part.
    Sasuke can make Amaterasu spread throughout the whole cave, but you know Kabuto can use that to his advantage by using Muki Tensei, he can manipulate parts of the terrain and make it attack Sasuke, or he can just open a safe path by using Doroku Gaeshi.

    Also he can body shed if by any chance Amaterasu hits him, so I think you should give that one to Kabuto, he has counters for every attack Sasuke has at the moment.

    Anyway, I'd like to know your opinion about this fight honestly, Who do you think would win between the two?
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by ccm30 View Post
    @ Those that think killing Kabuto = unable to release the Edo ability:

    He-lloooo, Kabuto taught Tobi the ability.

    Pwnt.
    Kabuto lied to Tobi about the hand seals.

    Not Pwnt.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    DSM Kabuto > Sasuke
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    The simple answer is its unknown and if anything because sasuke will NOT die before he fights naruto he has plot no jutsu on his side, lets be real here . However even though a sasuke fan im extremely tied in what i can say in his favour. Reason for people going for kabuto without hesitating is because sasuke performed poorly in that fight. However sasuke's fighting style has NEVER been fighting to capture and the manga shouldve made that clear. During his mission with itachi i believe the mission was to capture the pig and sasuke accidentally killed it. Similarly he wasnt too convincing against kill bee and in the end used amaterasu, a technique that shouldnt be used if you plan on capturing your opponent. To put it simple sasuke isnt disciplined in that art and that is why he didnt look convincing. However id agree that kabuto would still be favourite however this isnt always true.

    Sasuke has amaterasu a technique that will come to his aid if needed. We saw that kabuto retreated when sasuke used amaterasu and molded it into enton kagutsuchi to protect himself and itachi and kabuto commented not only on amaterasu's offensive capabilities but also its defensive capabilities. Now kabuto has shown his sensoring skills but also ability to shed his skin. However if sasuke was to spam/control and make amaterasu spread throughout the whole cave with amaterasu kabuto would surely be troubled. Firstly sasuke gains the advantage because its his technique and its him who is in control of it, he has turned the environment into his advantage. Secondly muki tensei that was nullified by amaterasu's heat which again would go against kabuto.

    Finally ill let you in on a secret about sound based genjutsu. Majority believe its unavoidable because its sound based, however the manga disagrees. Sound based genjutsu travel through the air. If the ninja can potentially disrupt the air around them they could potentially nullify this technique because they are basically disrupting what is carrying the genjutsu from the user to the opponent, air. Temari showed us an example of this when she countered tayuya's Mateki Mugen Onsa with her fan,







    As shikamaru said "That thing can deflect the sound of the flute......"
    Just as I said at the beginning of this thread we can't say for sure

    Okay now, but arguing for Kabuto,

    Sage mode increases all jutsu as we know, he becomes faster stronger, better at genjutsu, and ninjutsu, Kabuto has new sage jutsu which are always powerful attacks

    Snake eyelids can block any genjutsu,

    Can try to avoid amaterasu using cave altering chakra techniques, plus if hit I don't see why he couldn't shed... old skin burns, new kabuto is unscathed...

    I understand that Sasuke was holding back, I am not denying that, but for the most part Kabuto was going for itachi... plus itachi was pretty much the only one that landed good blows on kabuto
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Memoria View Post
    + Rep agreed with everything except the Amaterasu/Enton Kagutushi part.
    Sasuke can make Amaterasu spread throughout the whole cave, but you know Kabuto can use that to his advantage by using Muki Tensei, he can manipulate parts of the terrain and make it attack Sasuke, or he can just open a safe path by using Doroku Gaeshi.

    Also he can body shed if by any chance Amaterasu hits him, so I think you should give that one to Kabuto, he has counters for every attack Sasuke has at the moment.

    Anyway, I'd like to know your opinion about this fight honestly, Who do you think would win between the two?
    Aw come on, thanks for the rep id ill return it however if i dont contribute to nb threads anymore. I just talk to people via pm/vm then leave. Why must i reply to you . I will though

    Amaterasu's heat caused muki tensei to be ineffective, if kabuto was to use it after sasuke had used amaterasu, it wouldnt prove effective at all. "The heat also made the cave go back to its original shape";



    Possibly meaning if amaterasu was used before this technique, it will either restrict completely the technique or wouldnt be as effective against the heat that amaterasu produces

    Doroku gaeshi sasuke could potentially restrict this technique. Arguable the best raiton user and we all know raiton > doton. Gaeshi is a c rank doton technique, though kabtuo's has been given a boost due to sm. However still sasuke holds the advantage against this technique and if he runs his lighting based attack through the earth, it could possible harm the ability for this technique to surface. He has already shown the ability to use his raiton through the earth, either by channeling his raiton through his sword and peircing the earth with it or using chidori nagashi on the earth;



    I know when sasuke used this strategy against itachi it was in a genjutsu duel however it can be achieved and if he does, its very possible that because raiton > doton, it could nullify geashi

    To answer your question, kabuto would win this match up majority of the times
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sageofslxpaths View Post
    hello sunsanooo. did you forget mr sunsanooo? who do ppl think would win? sasuke was just looking at itachi through the entire fight. kabuto would have gotten his horns ripped if sasuke could be bothered.



    holllllllll up this is assuming kabuto could not summon any more edos. rmbr sasuke beat diedara. now are you telling me kabuto is stronger than diedara?
    f*ck yes, kabuto is hella lot stronger than deidara.....he's OP and he would rape almost everyone in narutoverse....almost....
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Kabuto would have won...
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Legitimate View Post
    If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...
    Sasuke had he power to destroy him. I can't remember exactly what Itachi said, but he told Sasuke to not attack Kabuto full force and that he should not destroy him until Kabuto's Edo Tensai is nulled.

    That right there tells me that Sasuke could've beaten Kabuto.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Sasuke would have killed Kabuto, and the edo army would still be roaming around
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by tristan View Post
    sasuke and itachi could've been raped if not for the izanami additional powers kishi has trolled with...
    May i remind you that both Sasuke AND Itachi were holding back because they didn't want to kill Kabuto before releasing the Reanimation Jutsu?
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

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    Sasuke had he power to destroy him. I can't remember exactly what Itachi said, but he told Sasuke to not attack Kabuto full force and that he should not destroy him until Kabuto's Edo Tensai is nulled.

    That right there tells me that Sasuke could've beaten Kabuto.
    sasuke and itachi could've been raped if not for the izanami additional powers kishi has trolled with...
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Im 100% sure sasuke would have killed him an edo tensei would keep going, or taka would have came to his rescue
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    lol zetsu is shit haha sorry but he is weak close combat and long. And yea Sasuke would of got Owned
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kountchocula View Post
    Kabuto was prepared to fight the Uchiha's. Sasuke would have been stomped. He tried to fight both Sasuke and Itachi, Kabuto is not dumb enough to engage them if he knows he will lose. He honestly felt like he could fight them both so Sasuke alone would be fodder.
    Itachi was the only one who knew what everyone was dealing with. He also tells Sasuke to watch it and not kill Kabuto. Never did Itachi tell Sasuke he's in trouble. He could've handled Kabuto by himself, at a high cost though.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Kabuto was prepared to fight the Uchiha's. Sasuke would have been stomped. He tried to fight both Sasuke and Itachi, Kabuto is not dumb enough to engage them if he knows he will lose. He honestly felt like he could fight them both so Sasuke alone would be fodder.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    lmao this is hilarious, people posting half manga pages to twist manga facts into suiting their own believes.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    was i the only one that felt ripped off about the fight?i expected so much bang! and got kabutos pathetic life story,and them actually only like a total of 7 jutsus,in which they showed you over and over again,I seriously Expected way more of a fight!
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Steel View Post
    lmao this is hilarious, people posting half manga pages to twist manga facts into suiting their own believes.
    I used logic, you don't even need to quote the manga to realize that Sasuke would lose.... *sigh*fanboyssss
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    listen why do ppl think kabuto is so good lol gennin beat the sound 4 killer b easily handled taka, itachi easily handled oro,
    he's like a fusion of wack ppl, he's like Nail + Piccolo lol mad booty....... PPL forget that he literally was waiting for them and prepared, it was his environment, regardless kirin = over
     
         

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