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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

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    He can't dodge Amaterasu and his weakness is Raiton. try again
    Kabuto sheds his skin...try to read other peoples reply before u reply back.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by flcl724 View Post
    lol sasuke was ready and locking on for the kill at first. but then itachi told him not to kill him.

    this is EMS not MS he can spam amatersu, use izanami, kabuto cant absorb amatersu nor dodge it.

    sasuke could draw kabuto in and use enton release


    im not going to explain why sasuke can kill kabuto.

    if itachi himself already said he could.



    and to legitmate who keeps saying kabuto dodge amatersu in that scan.

    when has sasuke ever aimed amatersu at a foot?
    he wasnt aiming for kabuto, kabuto was apporaching them, and sasuke used it as a defense wall to stop him before he got closer.
    Sasuke doesn't have izanami
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

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    how will sasuke counter this?

    Kabuto would already be burning from Amaterasu
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    First of all, there was so many wrong things about this fight.. They were suppos to capture Kabuto which means they (Sasuke) didnt show his true susanoo or powers, but it wasnt Sasuke's fight.

    It depends to be honest, is Sasuke's susanoo good enough to mute sound jutsu's? Maybe
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    He can't dodge Amaterasu and his weakness is Raiton. try again
    how will sasuke counter this?

     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

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    .............then Kabuto would have been dead within the first few minutes...
    explain how?
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rike Senju View Post
    Kabuto also held back..all of the moves that sasuke showed were countered with no problem..how does sasuke counter white rage or tayuya's genjutsu?
    Sound Genjutsu is just a genjutsu that is obviously delivered through sound, this means that chakara is passed through sound waves in which the sharigan will be able to see this chakara and know its a genjutsu. The genjutsu Kabuto used is just an genjutsu delivered through sound and if you noticed, Itachi and Sasuke's backs were turned away from Kabuto when they got caught in it. The sharigan are said to be able to break/see through any genjutsu. As you seen when Kabuto hit them with it, they seen that it was an genjutsu right as they got caught in it. If I recall it was stated that the Uchiha used their sharigans on each other as the fastest method in breaking genjutsu. This is what Itachi and Sasuke did because Kabuto was right around there in front of them. The reason why they got caught in it in the first place was because their backs were turned away and they were not ready for it. They can break that genjustu but it just takes time. It's just like when Shi caught Sasuke in that genjutsu that lit up the entire area and he seen through it but by the time he broke it, the Raikage and Darui were behind them.

    I'm guessing "White Rage" is that blinding ability. An ability like that is situational. If you noticed, Sasuke was in a dark closed in cave which means the light from that attack would be much greater then if they were outside, the same goes for the sound. If you paid attention to what Kabuto said then you will understand that all Sasuke really has to do is stream his Chidori and Kabuto can't capture him. That ability seems to only last for a short while.


    This is why I am saying you can't really say who would win. It is very situational.
     
         
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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    If Itachi weren't there Sasuke would obviously lose.

    He gets raped by Kabuto in fact.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    i feel like champ left this thread for good bcuz he could'nt find a counter to tayuya's genjutsu or kabuto's sound jutsu..
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Kabuto was trying to capture Sasuke, and recapture Itachi so he could rewipe his mind.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    The fight was extremely situational. Both sides had no intent to kill. I don't see the point of this thread.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sageofslxpaths View Post
    hello sunsanooo. did you forget mr sunsanooo? who do ppl think would win? sasuke was just looking at itachi through the entire fight. kabuto would have gotten his horns ripped if sasuke could be bothered.



    holllllllll up this is assuming kabuto could not summon any more edos. rmbr sasuke beat diedara. now are you telling me kabuto is stronger than diedara?
    Actually, yes. Yes we are. Kabuto > Deidara easy.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    It's funny how Kabuto is being shat on in another thread, but here is praised to high-heaven because of the general forum hatred towards Sasuke. lol Too funny.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Remember that Itachi restricted Sasuke saying not to kill Kabuto, we may never know but all we do know is that it is much harder to capture someone that to kill them.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Allseeingeye View Post
    Kabuto sheds his skin...try to read other peoples reply before u reply back.
    Not if sasuke is able 2 put AMA on his face because when u shed ur skin u have to go through ur mouth n the flames will still get him. Just admit it bro the only way kabuto will win is tayuya's genjutsu
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    sasuke would rape his face hard
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Allseeingeye View Post
    Kabuto sheds his skin...try to read other peoples reply before u reply back.
    He shed his skin and get hit with Amaterasu again, then paralyzed by Sasuke's Raiton sword and he burns to death.
    Quote Originally Posted by looking 4 name View Post
    i feel like champ left this thread for good bcuz he could'nt find a counter to tayuya's genjutsu or kabuto's sound jutsu..
    I already replied for some reason my comment was on the other page, but I said Kabuto would be burning before he even gets a chance to do white rage
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

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    EMS only prevents you from going blind. I don't see any evidence that suggests otherwise.
    Don't forget the super susanno
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Sasuke might have been able to win if he launched a powerful enough assault before Kabuto reached SM, keeping in mind the full extent of his EMS capabilities are still unknown. However if Kabuto reached SM Sasuke would loose to White Rage technique or Tayuya's Genjutsu baring some new power up. My opinion if Kishi played the battle out in the manga Sasuke would be in the lead at the start, but Kabuto would reach SM, at which point Sasuke would start to loose, and than Kishimoto would have Sasuke power up his EMS somehow to pull out the win.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zato View Post
    Sound Genjutsu is just a genjutsu that is obviously delivered through sound, this means that chakara is passed through sound waves in which the sharigan will be able to see this chakara and know its a genjutsu. The genjutsu Kabuto used is just an genjutsu delivered through sound and if you noticed, Itachi and Sasuke's backs were turned away from Kabuto when they got caught in it. The sharigan are said to be able to break/see through any genjutsu. As you seen when Kabuto hit them with it, they seen that it was an genjutsu right as they got caught in it. If I recall it was stated that the Uchiha used their sharigans on each other as the fastest method in breaking genjutsu. This is what Itachi and Sasuke did because Kabuto was right around there in front of them. The reason why they got caught in it in the first place was because their backs were turned away and they were not ready for it. They can break that genjustu but it just takes time. It's just like when Shi caught Sasuke in that genjutsu that lit up the entire area and he seen through it but by the time he broke it, the Raikage and Darui were behind them.

    I'm guessing "White Rage" is that blinding ability. An ability like that is situational. If you noticed, Sasuke was in a dark closed in cave which means the light from that attack would be much greater then if they were outside, the same goes for the sound. If you paid attention to what Kabuto said then you will understand that all Sasuke really has to do is stream his Chidori and Kabuto can't capture him. That ability seems to only last for a short while.


    This is why I am saying you can't really say who would win. It is very situational.
    Read the tittle, I think it says "If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi", meaning the same battlefield, just no Itachi.
    But no matter, even if they fought in another location, Sasuke's chances of winning won't raise by much.

    Your counter to sound genjutsu wasn't really a counter, even if he can see it coming, he has no way to defend against it, since the attack is too fast, if I remember correctly, it took only one or two panels manga wise to catch them in genjutsu.
    Also, there is no proof that Sharingan can break sound genjutsu, if you have any feel free to post them.

    About the white rage counter, that again wasn't a counter. You're saying that Sasuke only needs to stream his Chidori, but if he can't maintain Susanoo, you're assuming that he's able to stream his Chidori? :lmao:

    I think it's obvious who would come on top in this fight, any logical person would know that Kabuto is the victor here.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by RikudoKami View Post
    Kabuto was trying to capture Sasuke, and recapture Itachi so he could rewipe his mind.
    Sense we know thats true about Itachi, then its obvious Kabuto didn't hold back on Itachi sense Kabuto couldn't kill him
    However Itachi had to hold back tremendously on Kabuto in order to capture him and release Edo tensei.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Without Itachi there, the sound genjutsu would have crippled Sasuke, and that would have been the end of it. Kabuto was too quick to be hit by any of Sasuke's attacks, plus he didn't even have to look at Sasuke or Itachi to fight them straight up, thus allowing him to avoid genjutsu's like Tsukyomi. While he is in sage mode his senses are heightened so any regular genjutsu could be easily released. Body shedding technique is there as back up just in case he should get hit by amateratsu.

    Despite what people think, Kabuto is extremely strong, easily top ten, he just got defeated by Izanami. Which was actually the perfect counter, Sasuke stood no chance without Itachi there.
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaviour View Post
    Remember that Itachi restricted Sasuke saying not to kill Kabuto, we may never know but all we do know is that it is much harder to capture someone that to kill them.
    The Kabuto fans don't want to see that
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Flames View Post
    Again show me where Kabuto dodges Amaterasu?....that's right you can't.
    Pshhht kabuto could easily just use the body shedding jutsu if he got hit by amatersu, much like how sasuke used it when he get hit by itachis amaterasu
     
         

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    Re: If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

    Quote Originally Posted by flcl724 View Post
    i was refering to the part where itachi told sasuke NOT TO KILL KABUTO LIKE TWICE. why would itachi say not to kill him if he didnt think sasuke could?

    you want to play that game
    show in the manga where it says he cant use izanami.

    come up with an arugement is kinda pointless. itachi said sasuke could kill him, thats why he told him not too.

    thats all the arugeing im gona do here.

    you come up with an arugement how kabuto beats sasuke, when he is allowed to fight to kill.



    show me where it says he doesnt. he is a uchiha. lol
    *walks up to you*...

    SASUKE DIDINT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IZANAMI UNTILL ITACHI GAVE HIM A SPEECH ABOUT IT DURING THERE BATTLE AGAINST KABUTO!! DID YOU EVEN THINK BEFORE POSTING THAT NONSENSE!?!?
     
         

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