If Sasuke fought Kabuto without Edo-Itachi...

[FloriGlori]

Dumbass, I cut it because the next panel is irrelevant when Kabuto dodged Amaterasu.

Now, now, that's the most important panel regarding this matter, since the dust behind Kabuto shows that he was stopping right in his tracks and made no efforts to dodge at all. Sasuke was aiming the flames in front of Kabuto's feet, in order to stop him and use them as a source to create the defensive wall.



Sasuke was strictly told not to kill him and was even warned after shooting an arrow. At that point, Sasuke did not know that Kabuto also inherited Orochimaru's rebirth-technique, so he would not have risked killing him with Amaterasu. That much should be obvious.

Apart from that, however, I definitely agree. Sasuke's chances for victory are pretty low, here.

[Legitimate]

Now, now, that's the most important panel regarding this matter, since the dust behind Kabuto shows that he was stopping right in his tracks and made no efforts to dodge at all. Sasuke was aiming the flames before Kabtuo's feet; in order to stop him and use them as a source to create the defensive wall.



Sasuke was strictly told not to kill him and was even warned after shooting an arrow. At that point, Sasuke did not know that Kabuto also inherited Orochimaru's rebirth-technique, so he would not have risked killing him with Amaterasu. That much should be obvious.

Apart from that, however, I obviously agree. Sasuke's chances of victory are pretty low.

I wasn't talking about the defense, they were there to disable Kabuto, why would Sasuke waste an opportunity to disable Kabuto by aiming on his foot? And Kishi showed it.

[hobojoejr]

yeah idk , saskue wasnt given the chance because itachi had to keep him alive, but anyway eventually he will get out of izanami and we may see a rematch.

[FloriGlori]

I wasn't talking about the defense, they were there to disable Kabuto, why would Sasuke waste an opportunity to disable Kabuto by aiming on his foot? And Kishi showed it.

Read my post again, carefully.

The flames at the floor were essential for creating the barrier. Sasuke never intended to hit Kabuto.

[Zato]

This is a question that CANNOT be answered since Sasuke held back a lot. You can't say that either would win.

[Rike Senju]

This is a question that CANNOT be answered since Sasuke held back a lot. You can't say that either would win.

Kabuto also held back..all of the moves that sasuke showed were countered with no problem..how does sasuke counter white rage or tayuya's genjutsu?

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Sasuke...

[Simple Math]

lol sasuke was ready and locking on for the kill at first. but then itachi told him not to kill him.

this is EMS not MS he can spam amatersu, use izanami, kabuto cant absorb amatersu nor dodge it.

sasuke could draw kabuto in and use enton release

im not going to explain why sasuke can kill kabuto.

if itachi himself already said he could.



and to legitmate who keeps saying kabuto dodge amatersu in that scan.

when has sasuke ever aimed amatersu at a foot?
he wasnt aiming for kabuto, kabuto was apporaching them, and sasuke used it as a defense wall to stop him before he got closer.

show me a manga scan where itachi said sasuke can beat him?
what make you think that sasuke can use izanami?
and you dont wanna come up with atleast 1 argument because you cant come up with any..

[Destruction of Konoha]

Anyone who thinks that Sasuke could seiously beat Sage Kabuto is obviously a major Sasuke fanboy. I hate saying this almost as much as I hate tenten, but Kabuto entirely outmatches current Sasuke. Without Edo Itachi being there, no more Sasuke..

[Champ]

lmao.. kabuto is too fast for that..
kabuto got counter to all sasuke's jutsus!

He can't dodge Amaterasu and his weakness is Raiton. try again

[looking 4 name]

Sure. Sasuke could just light Kabuto up with Amaterasu. Once Kabuto sheds his skin he would paralyzed him with his Raiton sword and burned him to death.

too fast for that

[Sasuke1025]

You still don't get it, the Amaterasu is almost an instantaneous attack, why would Sasuke waste an opportunity while DSM KABUTO IS ATTACKING WIDE OPEN. EMS-SASUKE USED THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTACK AND DEFENSE AT THE SAME TIME, IT JUST HAPPENED THAT IT MISSED.

Imagine something comes your way at an instant, even if it's aimed at your foot. The moment you move your foot out of the way means that you were able to dodge it.

Also, why did Kishimoto show DSM KABUTO's foot moved while on the attacked mode? It would lessen his work if his motive is to show Amaterasu as defense.

And DSM KABUTO SAID THAT FROM THE BEST ATTACK TO BEST DEFENSE, MEANING IT WAS MEANT FOR ATTACK FIRST.



No.

What's your proof that EMS Sasuke will rape DSM Kabuto? OPINION JUTSU? LOL.

BASED ON HIS RECENT SHOWINGS, EMS SASUKE CAN'T BEAT KABUTO.

Why would sasuke Amaterasu him if he's not suppose to kill him. If u look at the pic carefully there r lines on the right side of kabutos foot if he was moving it back the lines would've been on the left side. Kishi showed his foot because he wanted 2 show us tht he has quick reaction. N he got hit by the arrow once so he can get hit by AMA. Don't get me wrong sasuke has no way of countering his sound genjutsu so I think he would loose but I'm just saying he never dodge AMA

[Allseeingeye]

show me a manga scan where itachi said sasuke can beat him?
what make you think that sasuke can use izanami?
and you dont wanna come up with atleast 1 argument because you cant come up with any..

These Sasuke fans make up shit just cuz they want to come up with a good argument. too bad its making them look like trolls. But for wat we saw in this fight if itachi was not there Kabuto wouldve killed sasuke.

[Chaoz]

okay, for those who stated that EMS sasuke gained no new abilities, im pretty sure when he interrogated zetsu he used an orb of gooey amaterasu to simultaneously blast like 8 zetsu and kill them, pretty sure that wasnt shown previous to EMS.
anyways..to go on~~~~
in my opinion i dont see sasuke beating DSM kabuto.. he was seriously powered up and countered or has shown the ability to counter all if not most of sasuke's techniques.
also, sasuke DOES NOT have izanami OR izanagi. whoever keeps saying that is a fanboy. kabuto is seriously powerful and would beat sasuke, mid-high difficulty, maybe at best..

[yuan of cruxis]

As much as I don't like Sasuke, Kabuto hasnt really shown that hes capable of killing Sasuke, If its a fight to kill:shrug:

If they wanted to kill Kabuto, he wouldv'e been dead in a matter of seconds
But Sasuke can win high difficulty

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

.............then Kabuto would have been dead within the first few minutes...

[Allseeingeye]

He can't dodge Amaterasu and his weakness is Raiton. try again

Kabuto sheds his skin...try to read other peoples reply before u reply back.

[yuan of cruxis]

lol sasuke was ready and locking on for the kill at first. but then itachi told him not to kill him.

this is EMS not MS he can spam amatersu, use izanami, kabuto cant absorb amatersu nor dodge it.

sasuke could draw kabuto in and use enton release


im not going to explain why sasuke can kill kabuto.

if itachi himself already said he could.



and to legitmate who keeps saying kabuto dodge amatersu in that scan.

when has sasuke ever aimed amatersu at a foot?
he wasnt aiming for kabuto, kabuto was apporaching them, and sasuke used it as a defense wall to stop him before he got closer.

Sasuke doesn't have izanami

[Champ]

how will sasuke counter this?

Kabuto would already be burning from Amaterasu

[Zlad]

First of all, there was so many wrong things about this fight.. They were suppos to capture Kabuto which means they (Sasuke) didnt show his true susanoo or powers, but it wasnt Sasuke's fight.

It depends to be honest, is Sasuke's susanoo good enough to mute sound jutsu's? Maybe

[looking 4 name]

He can't dodge Amaterasu and his weakness is Raiton. try again

how will sasuke counter this?

[looking 4 name]

.............then Kabuto would have been dead within the first few minutes...

explain how?

[Zato]

Kabuto also held back..all of the moves that sasuke showed were countered with no problem..how does sasuke counter white rage or tayuya's genjutsu?

Sound Genjutsu is just a genjutsu that is obviously delivered through sound, this means that chakara is passed through sound waves in which the sharigan will be able to see this chakara and know its a genjutsu. The genjutsu Kabuto used is just an genjutsu delivered through sound and if you noticed, Itachi and Sasuke's backs were turned away from Kabuto when they got caught in it. The sharigan are said to be able to break/see through any genjutsu. As you seen when Kabuto hit them with it, they seen that it was an genjutsu right as they got caught in it. If I recall it was stated that the Uchiha used their sharigans on each other as the fastest method in breaking genjutsu. This is what Itachi and Sasuke did because Kabuto was right around there in front of them. The reason why they got caught in it in the first place was because their backs were turned away and they were not ready for it. They can break that genjustu but it just takes time. It's just like when Shi caught Sasuke in that genjutsu that lit up the entire area and he seen through it but by the time he broke it, the Raikage and Darui were behind them.

I'm guessing "White Rage" is that blinding ability. An ability like that is situational. If you noticed, Sasuke was in a dark closed in cave which means the light from that attack would be much greater then if they were outside, the same goes for the sound. If you paid attention to what Kabuto said then you will understand that all Sasuke really has to do is stream his Chidori and Kabuto can't capture him. That ability seems to only last for a short while.

This is why I am saying you can't really say who would win. It is very situational.

[KidGamer65]

If Itachi weren't there Sasuke would obviously lose.

He gets raped by Kabuto in fact.

[looking 4 name]

i feel like champ left this thread for good bcuz he could'nt find a counter to tayuya's genjutsu or kabuto's sound jutsu..