Character BreakDown: Hashirama Senju! What is his rank And who does he lose to?

[Draegod]

Hashirama is indeed a mystery, but I believe i have officially listed everything he has been hinted/shown in the manga of what he can do!

There is allot of ppl who do not see what hashiramas wood release can achieve. And many of you think you know the reason why hashirama's wood is good by saying "it can tame/control Bijuss", but really thats the beginning and he doesnt even use that in his fights so i dont even count it.



- wood clones http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/293/9 ,http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/290/12, and one was used too follow oru, kabuto, and sai too oru's hideout. (which is better then a regular shadow clone considering its more solid http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/301/13)
- water and earth jutsu's (the lv of which we can assume is high lv),
- could make wood come from anypart of his body http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/309/10 , http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/308/3, which would be good to make immediate weapons or shields or to subdue anyone http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/494/15 http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/309/8. And Note how strong it is, yamato was able to subdue 4 tails with it http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/296/10
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/120/7 could muster up a forest in seconds, and subdue any ninja with in with a powerful bind that is hard to break (note even sarutobi new that he needed Emma to break the wood with staff mode)
- could trap you in a fortress like trap in seconds http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/122/4
- he could use his wood to suppress the power of bijuus
- could change the landscape http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/396/10, http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/316/4
- and huge (i mean huge!) chakra reserves. And hell the 1st hokage was the one to build konoha (atleast did the hard part.lol)
- can use it to help fight. Such as ride the wood
- Heal from anything damage you may cause him almost instantly!
- Once Wrapped up, he can surpress your chakra! http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/508/2

Zetsu power added bonus that shows Wood ability
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/512/6. tobi is using the power of the tailed beast and the 1st hokage to multiply and create the zetsu clones http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/512/9. and kabuto says he can use yamato too make more zetsus clones http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/514/17. http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/545/3

- Become one with nature http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/526/6, so could yamato http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/456/12

And lastly http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/561/11


So basically he could make a forest. Then could merge with the forest and pop up from any part (or tree, that he created) and atk you with his added other powers:

- high lv genjutsu (bringer of darkness/infinite darkness)
- water and earth jutsus
- secret scrolls (as noted being used to fight against madara uchiha) http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/399/10
- etc etc

What has been shown from Zetsu!

- Mokuton (Wood Style).. Although they are a weaker versoin of the first wood style is still wood style. lol and the ability to change the battle ground enough to your liking is great http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/545/3.. And as you can see right here http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/562/9 he can grab you anytime he please!

- Instant Travel Anywhere.. http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/396/7 not Space time nin, but a close second! http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/526/6 hell he's technically eveywhere/anywhere.lol

- Super sensor.. For awhile i was lost in how he could appear anywhere (i.e. where ninjas he don't affiliate with are, naruto and company), but its because The Earth is basically his sensor Tool! He could sense anyone (outside super barriers.lol) instantly. http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/536/11. So No matter where you go (minato, hanzou, etc) he could find/follow them.

- Durability.. YOu basically cannot kill him with direct contact! http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/536/5 Was kicked thru the chest and was still ready to fight. Neck broke http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/460/2. Slashed in half and was still alive http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/562/10.

- Super strength.. http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/604/4 destroying a boulder with one punch!

- Great speed.. As noted by sasuke, he didnt know zetsu was there until he literally seen him help him http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/486/3.

- Chakra Absorption.. http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/466/10 With his spores that not even AO's byakugan or KArin's sensing abilitys could see or sense he could let them go with out you knowing then grow on you holding you still http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/466/15 and absorbing your chakra and taking for him self! http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/466/9 BOSS!!!

BAsed off the manga (NO HYPE) He is capable of everything i listed and More! Is he the best? Is he not that broken?

What would you rank him out of Nagato, Madara (EMS Prime State), Current Naruto, KAbuto at prime time state, Obito At his best, EMS Sasuke, Itachi Healthy, Muu, 3rd Raikage, Minato, Sarutobi Prime Time State, Edo Madara

[Negative Knight]

Hashi is 3rd in the Top ten of all time or higher, there should be no disputes there.

and Damn you Draegod, i was about to make the same thread . What do you think of Hashirama theortically possessing Zetsu's unique cloning Substitute Technique to transform into another individual ? Considering its higher scale, the bastard was OP as hell

[Yín..]

True

[narutonish]

Edo Madara > Obito=Hashirama > Madara (non-edo) >>> rest of the ninjas.

Its not fair to compare Edo Madara and Obito to any ninja because they have conveniently abused Senju DNA and got shitload of chakra, rinnegan. They both are "haxxed" to put it simply.

[Ritsu]

Hashi is 3rd in the Top ten of all time or higher, there should be no disputes there.

and Damn you Draegod, i was about to make the same thread . What do you think of Hashirama theortically possessing Zetsu's unique cloning Substitute Technique to transform into another individual ? Considering its higher scale, the bastard was OP as hell

I agree...I think.

So many damn links. Can't you post the actual photo?

[Draegod]

Hashi is 3rd in the Top ten of all time or higher, there should be no disputes there.

and Damn you Draegod, i was about to make the same thread . What do you think of Hashirama theortically possessing Zetsu's unique cloning Substitute Technique to transform into another individual ? Considering its higher scale, the bastard was OP as hell

Thanks! haha But This info i listed is from when i listed before in my old threads (before the hype came, i supported him). I would say he could use that tech to infiltrate and what not. If so, he is Uber Broken In terms of being a "Ninja"!

Edo Madara > Obito=Hashirama >>> rest of the ninjas.

Its not fair to compare Edo Madara and Obito to any ninja because they have conveniently abused Senju DNA and got shitload of chakra, rinnegan. They both are "haxxed" to put it simply.

Yea they are both broken! But Kabuto is up there with them 3 at his best with out a doubt! Considering EDO madara wouldnt exist with out Kabuto =)

[HashiramaDescendant]

Well, I didn't read, but it's about Hashirama so it's good.

[Draegod]

I agree...I think.

So many damn links. Can't you post the actual photo?

If i did that the thread would be wayyyyy too big! But i can see if i can use spoilers! Give me a sec to convert

[Bizarcreature]

obito isnt so powerfull all he has is kamui if you know how it works you can beat him ,hes taijutsu is crap , all ohter hes abilities is simple jutsu like firebals kage bunshin etc .

[Emp3Ror]

awsm bro totaly agree.....he was a beast
*****

[Draegod]

obito isnt so powerfull all he has is kamui if you know how it works you can beat him ,hes taijutsu is crap , all ohter hes abilities is simple jutsu like firebals kage bunshin etc .

Whoa slow down now!!! KAmui is super duper broken first of all! You add his jinjuriki 6 paths with the bijuus you still think he's weak??? His taijutsu is strong and body is super durable! Just because you dont like him doesnt mean you can talk down on him when you dont know all his powers.

awsm bro totaly agree.....he was a beast
*****

Thnx

[narutonish]

Yea they are both broken! But Kabuto is up there with them 3 at his best with out a doubt! Considering EDO madara wouldnt exist with out Kabuto =)

Nah, it makes him a better scientist than a ninja. When I rate someone I only think how would he/she fare in 1v1 with other ninja. I dont think that Kabuto can beat madara / obito / Hashirama / 3rd hokage (when he was young) or even Minato for that matter.

[Draegod]

Nah, it makes him a better scientist than a ninja. When I rate someone I only think how would he/she fare in 1v1 with other ninja. I dont think that Kabuto can beat madara / obito / Hashirama / 3rd hokage (when he was young) or even Minato for that matter.

Fair, everyone has their own opinion on things whether wrong or write. But WIth DSM Alone minato/3rd hokage can not harm him based on feats (FAct, not disputable). And i dont see why you do not count edo when it is nothing but a summoning jutsu


If you count Sarutobi using Enma, or minato using Frogs then i dont see why you take away edo tensei based off the manga fact that it is a summoning jutsu? Also, just because a ninja has a unfair jutsu/weapon doesnt mean you unfairly take it away when you dont do the same for other broken ninjas (hashirama wood, minato ftg, uchiha sharingan, etc etc)

[Uzimaki Akira]

Edo Madara > Obito=Hashirama > Madara (non-edo) >>> rest of the ninjas.

Its not fair to compare Edo Madara and Obito to any ninja because they have conveniently abused Senju DNA and got shitload of chakra, rinnegan. They both are "haxxed" to put it simply.

Wrong!
Madara=Hashirama, Edo Madara seems to have an advantage but it really kinda puts him on equal standing with Hashirama's regenerative powers, also Hashirama has the yin sealing ability ( how he controls Bijuu) so I still say they're equal in power but not stamina.
Rikoudo Sennin is the God of Narutoverse, hands down.
Hiruzen is third and I think Naruto and Sasuke are equal to his level at his prime but that has yet to be seen.

[narutonish]

Wrong!
Madara=Hashirama, Edo Madara seems to have an advantage but it really kinda puts him on equal standing with Hashirama's regenerative powers, also Hashirama has the yin sealing ability ( how he controls Bijuu) so I still say they're equal in power but not stamina.
Rikoudo Sennin is the God of Narutoverse, hands down.
Hiruzen is third and I think Naruto and Sasuke are equal to his level at his prime but that has yet to be seen.

Hashirama defeated Madara & 9tails combined, why am I wrong then sir ? :D The amount of respect the egomaniac Madara shows to Hashi while fighting the 4 kages is proof enough.

If you mean Edo Madara = Hashi, then I will have to disagree because he also has the rinnegan now which he didn't have earlier coupled with other hax like - Senju DNA, immortality, very fast regenerating chakra because of him being an EDO (aka unltd chakra).

I specifically said rest of the ninja because no one can clearly say who is strong among the rest

[HitmanSasuke23]

Thanks! haha But This info i listed is from when i listed before in my old threads (before the hype came, i supported him). I would say he could use that tech to infiltrate and what not. If so, he is Uber Broken In terms of being a "Ninja"!



Yea they are both broken! But Kabuto is up there with them 3 at his best with out a doubt! Considering EDO madara wouldnt exist with out Kabuto =)

Madara was going to be revived even with out Kabuto's help

[HitmanSasuke23]

obito isnt so powerfull all he has is kamui if you know how it works you can beat him ,hes taijutsu is crap , all ohter hes abilities is simple jutsu like firebals kage bunshin etc .

How can you say Obito isn't powerful and his taijutsu is crap he clearly stopped Suigetsu blade with his arm and quickly disposed of two jounin level ninjas in fu and torune...he defeated Konan... He played around with Kakashi and others several times... And besides we never seen Obito go on the offensive he never had 2

[Draegod]

Madara was going to be revived even with out Kabuto's help

But he didnt get revived by obito so thats irrelevant! In the war he was a product of kabuto; and they are clearly on the same team!

[USSJ Future Trunks]

most of those stomp him

obito isnt so powerfull all he has is kamui if you know how it works you can beat him ,hes taijutsu is crap

if his taijutsu is crap how come he destroyed a kcm naruto clone in one swing when madaras susano and third raikage could not? if his taijutsus so crap how come he blocked zabuzas sword with his arm?

Hashirama defeated Madara & 9tails combined,

mito defeated nine tails. we dont know why madara survived yet so cant definitely say he lost outright

I dont think that Kabuto can beat madara / obito / Hashirama / 3rd hokage (when he was young) or even Minato for that matter

yes he can with his edo army

Obito=Hashirama

HAHAHAHAHAA

[TheSages456]

only the SO6P is stronger than hashirama.

[Naruto the Toad Sage]

most of those stomp him

if his taijutsu is crap how come he destroyed a kcm naruto clone in one swing when madaras susano and third raikage could not? if his taijutsus so crap how come he blocked zabuzas sword with his arm?

mito defeated nine tails. we dont know why madara survived yet so cant definitely say he lost outright

yes he can with his edo army

HAHAHAHAHAA

HAHAHA!! you are a liar. Show me proof or even one line where it says "Mito defeated the nine tails."

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Show me proof Mito defeated the nine tails.

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/500/5

only the SO6P is stronger than hashirama.

whats hashiramas counter for KA or jinton? how can he stop kabuto + edo army?

[Draegod]

only the SO6P is stronger than hashirama.

That is incorrect! He is strong, but you overrate him based on hype! And even in that department he isnt the best in.

HAHAHA!! you are a liar. Show me proof or even one line where it says "Mito defeated the nine tails."

She help him by sealing the fox in her to better aid hashi.

[Naruto the Toad Sage]

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/500/5

whats hashiramas counter for KA or jinton? how can he stop kabuto + edo army?

That just said that She harnessed the nine tails. Naruto just now is harnessing the nine tails. She was not at that fight.
Madara would say Hashirama and mito beat him and not just give all credit to Hashirama.

Again you are lying with no proof.

[USSJ Future Trunks]

she sealed it into her own body, and we know only way to defeat or stop a bijuu is to seal it or kill the host. the manga directly says she sealed it during the battle. madara wouldnt have mentioned mito for the same reason that sakura credited chiyo with sasoris defeat. sakura was a big help but who was it that did the final blow? oh yeah CHIYO. and who was it that is credited with kakuzus defeat..naruto...but who destroyed the first two hearts and rescued naruto when his first FRS failed? oh yeah the rest of the team. who was it that was credited with 2nd mizukages defeat by mizukage himself? gaara but who saved his ass? his dad and onoki. if mito aided him but hashi did most of the work then obviously madara would admire hashi more. in the end he never said he lost because in the long term, he didnt.