Shippuden is a disgrace to naruto (long read)

[Unbiased]

It is much more versed into the ninja world considering that they just expanded the ninja world and actually brought political points into this. Ex. Danzo and his views and how war has been a huge idea thrusted upon the world.

They rarely mentioned another land in Naruto and there was not a ton of worry of being invaded by another country but being attacked by A single man. That's less realistic than Shippuden.
All of the power levels just jumped up.

And the storyline is awesome the past has come back to really bit every single person.
Minato died by his own student and helmed his duties to Naruto. And Kakashi's biggest failure is the cause of a war.

Everything is connected. We even found out that the past 100 years or so a man has been sitting in the shadows just for revenge on a dead man.
Also we have Sasuke who has been manipulated by like 5 people and finding out how things in the ninja world are not what they seem.
We find that Itachi who was known as a mass murderer saved the entire ninja world while being a Zombie.

And we finally get to see what it takes to be a ninja who is legendary.
We get to see a portion of the SO6P power through Madara.

Naruto shippuden is awesome.

I never said it wasn't but it has absolutely nothing on the original.

[RikudoKami]

Let's wait till we see the progression of Obito in the flashbacks, these type of flashbacks are interesting. Obito and Nagato have the best flashbacks thus far.

[Staarkk]

Ive seen way longer ^.^

[kmrasengan]

i agree with everything you said. *****

[bobssmurf]

Well then your opinion is worthless is you didn't read.

i read it all i disagree with acouple things in many manga animes..... many others because fodder, thats just how it is when you say stealth isnt in shipuden anymore and strategy you are wrong not completely but there are reasons why its like this that make this point irrelevant for example the main fights in shipuden the ninjas arent fodder they arent just some random person do you think you can catch a ninja with stealth when your dealing with oro or kakuzu or hidan( thats immortal) things changed because in part 1 everyone was a kid and these kids faught eachother in the forest of death.... its like oro and sarutobi when oro attacked saratobi he didnt try to kill him during the exams in stealth because most ninjas have a 6th sense it just doesnt come out sucessful to try to assasinate...
as the story proggresed how can you use stealth to kill when your sensed easily? also when naruto kakashi yamato followed/traked samui to talk to the raikage thats an example of using stealth. no strategy? sasuke used strategy againsed deidara.... naruto used strategy againsed the 3rd raikage he got intel on him to attack at the weak point.... also your saying shipuden is rushed? ha its not rushed at all you just wish that there was more fights and more content...... about inconsistency... no manga/anime is perfect when its so complex like naruto with jutsu , history, it could be hard to not make a conflict like how kakashi was an anbu at an early age it just happens but most of what you said was not true and proven wrong, and you say its a disgrace? you took it to far if you realy thought it was a disgrace? why would you watched tommorows episode? seriosuly saying this and still watching the series makes you a hypocrite

[Unbiased]

i read it all i disagree with acouple things in many manga animes..... many others because fodder, thats just how it is when you say stealth isnt in shipuden anymore and strategy you are wrong not completely but there are reasons why its like this that make this point irrelevant for example the main fights in shipuden the ninjas arent fodder they arent just some random person do you think you can catch a ninja with stealth when your dealing with oro or kakuzu or hidan( thats immortal) things changed because in part 1 everyone was a kid and these kids faught eachother in the forest of death.... its like oro and sarutobi when oro attacked saratobi he didnt try to kill him during the exams in stealth because most ninjas have a 6th sense it just doesnt come out sucessful to try to assasinate...
as the story proggresed how can you use stealth to kill when your sensed easily? also when naruto kakashi yamato followed/traked samui to talk to the raikage thats an example of using stealth. no strategy? sasuke used strategy againsed deidara.... naruto used strategy againsed the 3rd raikage he got intel on him to attack at the weak point.... also your saying shipuden is rushed? ha its not rushed at all you just wish that there was more fights and more content...... about inconsistency... no manga/anime is perfect when its so complex like naruto with jutsu , history, it could be hard to not make a conflict like how kakashi was an anbu at an early age it just happens but most of what you said was not true and proven wrong, and you say its a disgrace? you took it to far if you realy thought it was a disgrace? why would you watched tommorows episode? seriosuly saying this and still watching the series makes you a hypocrite

^^Obvious troll is obvious.

[bobssmurf]

^^Obvious troll is obvious.

dude your a hypocrite saying shipuden sucks because theres no stealth i proved irrelevant, strategy not used? sasuke didnt used strategy to kill danzou? didnt gara use strategy to defeat the tsunshinkage not sure how you spell his name.... most of what you said is untrue and a bad reason to hate on the anime, i also know you will watch tommorow episode your a HYPOCRITE and calling me a troll? your retarded

[bobssmurf]

another troll thread

seriously and this guy calls me a troll? wtf

[ShippudenRules]

Let me start by saying that Shippuden>>>>>Original by a long shot.

-The storyline is deeper, darker, complex and more interesting then ever before.
-The Akatsuki alone makes it better then the original serie. Badass top tier villains, not kid fighting each other anymore. Plus Orochimaru is back. We are in the big leagues now.
-Knowing more stuff about other villages and their Kages/bodyguards. We are getting more infos on the history of Konoha and other villages.
-The fights are more EPIC by far
-Naruto vs Pein -Jiraiya vs Pein
-Sasuke vs Itachi -Kakashi and team 10 vs Kakuzu and hidan
-Sasuke vs Deidera -Sakura and Lady Chiyo vs Sasori
-Taka vs Raikage/bodyguard followed by the other Kages
-The entire flashback about the birth of Naruto plus his fight with the 9tails
-The entire war arc (from chapter 559 till now, we saw some over the top crazy fights and it's impossible to deny that).

-Even if it's true that most of Konoha 11 aren't getting enough screen time or char. dev, many other characters have received a lot: Kakashi, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Orochimaru, InoShikaCho, other Kages plus some bodyguards, Naruto, Sasuke, Sai, all Akatsuki members etc.
-Shippuden is also longer.

Also, it might be an anime about ninjas but it's Kishi's story. If he wanted them all to fly and throw laser beams from their eyes, it would be his decision.

Shippuden isn't perfect but it's a great manga, is quite intriging and BETTER then the original.

[Tazzilla88]

your face is a disgrace
if it's such a disgrace why would you make a wall of text about it on a naruto site :flaw:

EDIT: When you can create a manga better than kish's then you have the right to call anything about naruto a disgrace
but until you can sell thousands of copies every week with a manga gtfo and s.t.f.u.

I suppose pet rocks was a great idea as they sold like hot cakes. The problem in your logic is your equating sales with quality.

[Unbiased]

Let me start by saying that Shippuden>>>>>Original by a long shot.

-The storyline is deeper, darker, complex and more interesting then ever before.
-The Akatsuki alone makes it better then the original serie. Badass top tier villains, not kid fighting each other anymore. Plus Orochimaru is back. We are in the big leagues now.
-Knowing more stuff about other villages and their Kages/bodyguards. We are getting more infos on the history of Konoha and other villages.
-The fights are more EPIC by far
-Naruto vs Pein -Jiraiya vs Pein
-Sasuke vs Itachi -Kakashi and team 10 vs Kakuzu and hidan
-Sasuke vs Deidera -Sakura and Lady Chiyo vs Sasori
-Taka vs Raikage/bodyguard followed by the other Kages
-The entire flashback about the birth of Naruto plus his fight with the 9tails
-The entire war arc (from chapter 559 till now, we saw some over the top crazy fights and it's impossible to deny that).

-Even if it's true that most of Konoha 11 aren't getting enough screen time or char. dev, many other characters have received a lot: Kakashi, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Orochimaru, InoShikaCho, other Kages plus some bodyguards, Naruto, Sasuke, Sai, all Akatsuki members etc.
-Shippuden is also longer.

Also, it might be an anime about ninjas but it's Kishi's story. If he wanted them all to fly and throw laser beams from their eyes, it would be his decision.

Shippuden isn't perfect but it's a great manga, is quite intriging and BETTER then the original.

The original will be superior because kishi actually put work into it. He had a consistent story in the original. Nowadays everything is changing and the timeline which he created he decided to ruin at the end of the story.

[startup97]

Honestly I still believe in Sarutobi (prime)
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=252063

[endo]

Please explain how it is one of the most popular manga in the world?

[endo]

The original will be superior because kishi actually put work into it. He had a consistent story in the original. Nowadays everything is changing and the timeline which he created he decided to ruin at the end of the story.

How the hell is he going to ruin the ending? Have you seen the plot structure and character development. I doubt you passed highschool english

[Arian]

thiss ^^

I don't need to read your wall of text at all. I can get my answer right of by just reading your title.

Shippuden is no disgrace, first of all you probably can't draw and second of all you handle all you can't handle all this drawing, plotting, working, colouring and etc.

Nuff said.

[PureSkillz]

they're getting stronger.
DB = PT 1
DBZ = Early PT 2
DBGT = Late PT 2

In terms of power levels & stuff..


It would get boring if it was like pt 1 for what, 12 years?
Ninja tactics get thrown out the window when you can toss around TBB's like nothing lmao.

[Ceae]

Shippuden has so many things happening at once that it kinda backfired. Kishi created overpowered characters only not be able to deal with them properly due to plot restriction he decided to drive them through unrealistic situations. There's a huge power gap on the Naruto realm, the battles feel rushed, there's power spamming and jutsus that seemed to be conveniently created as the easy way out of certain battles. It's unsatisfying.

Despite this Shippuden is still enjoyable to me. There's new interesting characters, we see more of the Naruto realm, some well made arks here and there and some nice character development.
It's flawed but it's far from a disgrace. Whatever floats on your boat I guess.

[kmrasengan]

they're getting stronger.
DB = PT 1
DBZ = Early PT 2
DBGT = Late PT 2

In terms of power levels & stuff..


It would get boring if it was like pt 1 for what, 12 years?
Ninja tactics get thrown out the window when you can toss around TBB's like nothing lmao.

what? are you really saying that early shippuden power levelBZ, you high man, and lol at DBGT part, that's just nonsense.

[romeboii]

at 1st i was just about to get ready to disagree with everything but then i started reading it and its all accurate i dont like the fights being skipped i hate that i havent seen lee neji hinata kiba go off show there full power its true about the bloody mist thing but even though it is true i must admit have no problem with the straight up fighting it lets me see just whos more powerful i do hate though that its no taijustsu jusy a bunch of throwing jutsu at each other like narutos rasengan with all his power he just keeps throwing them out and with the strongest hokage thing like yes wtf i mean i never considered the third the strongest cause even as an old man you must be able to beat orochimaru and his jutsu didnt seem to be on a powerful enough scale the 4th is my favorite but seeing what madara can do makes me think how strong was the 1st that he was able to stop him and if thats the case why didnt him and the2nd completely obliterate the 3rd

[★-Punk-]

well , i like all the arcs so far , especially the pain & kage arcs the best , the war its gonna get there eventually , although the manga right now right now its getting really hard to read for me at least , i dont mind tobi being obito , but his background story as to why he became like that its completly BS for me , guess we have to wait and see what happens in the end .

the only thing that really pissssi me of its naruto so fixtating with sasuke & obitos powers

[ntel]

Kisame recognized obito was (he has the same hair as he did when he controlled yagura.) also he said sorry for deceiving you after deidara died and kisame said oh its you.

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...91#post8695891

Look at that post I made.Proof that Obito wasnt controlling Yagura and it wasnt Madara either.

[KingHashirama]

Kishi doesn't focus on stuff , he doesn't want to focus on. by Shippuden your refering to the Naruto post-timeskip? or the anime?? Cause the anime in no way in hell is rushed.. The fillers of Naruto make up for it.

[kaddie9]

I don't need to read your wall of text at all. I can get my answer right of by just reading your title.

Shippuden is no disgrace, first of all you probably can't draw and second of all you handle all you can't handle all this drawing, plotting, working, colouring and etc.

Nuff said.

+1000000000 ^

[origin29]

even if naruto was adjusted to have a real ending, without shippuden, naruto would not be even as popular as bleach, not knocking, just saying it is less popular than naruto. without shipp, this may be bleach base.... for better or for worse

[Getto Mazou]

U see it your which is fine, but I like part1 ,and also shippuden I thinks he's allowed 2 take it any direction he wants its not like he's making a remake. He started with the end in mind when creating this so I have no problem with direction he took the series.I think disgrace is 2 strong of a word