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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by p0002q View Post
    Sasuke didn't remember Itachi crying during the massacre until after Itachi died and Tobito told Sasuke the truth.

    Just say'n.... traumatic events aren't the easiest things to remember details in... especially after passing out.

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    and that memory came back after what??? 10 years???
    no sasuke did not forgot, he said he was 'trying' to forgot, ill show u



     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by namikaze haru View Post
    that sounds really pathetic, itachi's death was recent when sasuke awakened his ms meaning the emotions were still strong. Kakashi as you so claim would have awakened it 15+ years after rin's death. Im sure he would got over rins death by then
    and you know kakashi on that level.....lol the fact is emotions and rememberance of tramatic event can awaken the ms or do you remeber sasuke didnt get his ms by killing itachit was only be the emotion when he realized his bother was awsome that he got it

    do you deny this fact the emotion awakens it and then if you dont do you really think you can say what kakashi would and would not feel and get over
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    He was referring to the memories of that night that he did remember.... such as fighting with Itachi a bit, taking a tsuky and watching the slaughter.... stuff he did want to forget.

    Then after he re-lived them again with a new mindset on Itachi, he remembered something he didn't even know - and that was Itachi crying.

    If sasuke remembered itachi crying all this time... do you really think that he would've doubted Tobi so much or don't you think sasuke would've questioned that before?

    The crying part was seen, recorded in the brain but not actually remembered until the "truth" about Itachi was revealed and Sasuke could now look back on that part of his life with a new mindset....

    ug lol i do see it both ways ~_~. the way he words it when it's pitch black is like he saw it in that point in time.

    to be fair, i will say that sasuke remembering the tears doesn't count lol
     
         
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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mischeif Maker View Post
    and you know kakashi on that level.....lol the fact is emotions and rememberance of tramatic event can awaken the ms or do you remeber sasuke didnt get his ms by killing itachit was only be the emotion when he realized his bother was awsome that he got it

    do you deny this fact the emotion awakens it and then if you dont do you really think you can say what kakashi would and would not feel and get over
    ok kl ur right...plz..plz..plz go away now
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by p0002q View Post
    He was referring to the memories of that night that he did remember.... such as fighting with Itachi a bit, taking a tsuky and watching the slaughter.... stuff he did want to forget.

    Then after he re-lived them again with a new mindset on Itachi, he remembered something he didn't even know - and that was Itachi crying.

    If sasuke remembered itachi crying all this time... do you really think that he would've doubted Tobi so much or don't you think sasuke would've questioned that before?

    The crying part was seen, recorded in the brain but not actually remembered until the "truth" about Itachi was revealed and Sasuke could now look back on that part of his life with a new mindset....

    ug lol i do see it both ways ~_~. the way he words it when it's pitch black is like he saw it in that point in time.

    to be fair, i will say that sasuke remembering the tears doesn't count lol
    u have a point, the only thing i can say to that, is that he did not want to remember itachi's tears as he was blinded by his hatred towards itachi at the time, which is why he says i tried to forget it. but after finding out the truth he came to accept it.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

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    ok kl ur right...plz..plz..plz go away now
    haha i know im right its why you got nothing to say to anything but your bs bro.....now on to sasuke and how you say he just didnt do anything with his sharigan for five years despite showing the ability to weild it well in combat
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

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    haha i know im right its why you got nothing to say to anything but your bs bro.....now on to sasuke and how you say he just didnt do anything with his sharigan for five years despite showing the ability to weild it well in combat
    lol this whole thread i have proved you wrong but i refuse to continue our debate anymore im interested in seeing other opinions u know from people who know what they are saying so plz...go away...u win...congratz man
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    its funny that some people just dont get it...
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Ok I just had a thought. I read all these threads since yesterday about the last chapter. Has it occurred to anyone that it wasn't obito who awakened the sharingan that maybe it was kakashi? In order to awaken the sharingan you must kill your best friend. True obito was there and saw, but kakashi is the one who just killed his best friend (rin)....So maybe it was actually him who activated MS, just a thought.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by Namikaze Haru View Post
    lol this whole thread i have proved you wrong but i refuse to continue our debate anymore im interested in seeing other opinions u know from people who know what they are saying so plz...go away...u win...congratz man
    nope im not going anywhere until you runaway with your tail betwee your legs

    so you said sasuke didnt eve try and use his sharingan.....dispite showing his ability to wield it in combat.....adresss this as it goes to the credibility of ppl forgetting


    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc2427 View Post
    Ok I just had a thought. I read all these threads since yesterday about the last chapter. Has it occurred to anyone that it wasn't obito who awakened the sharingan that maybe it was kakashi? In order to awaken the sharingan you must kill your best friend. True obito was there and saw, but kakashi is the one who just killed his best friend (rin)....So maybe it was actually him who activated MS, just a thought.
    killing your best friend isnt how it is awakend itachi said this to sasuke only to force him into an emtionally stressful situation and awaken his ms

    as shown with sasuke....he killed itachi ( not his best friend or anyone he even cared about) got nothing but then when tobi explained itachi all the emotion that goes with the kill hit him

    awakening his ms....meaning it is the emotional devestation and loss that awakens it not the kill itself

    but that being said but kakashi and obito were going through this pain at the same time so it may have even been a joint effort who knows the point is tho its not the kill that awakens it
     
         
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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mischeif Maker View Post
    nope im not going anywhere until you runaway with your tail betwee your legs

    so you said sasuke didnt eve try and use his sharingan.....dispite showing his ability to wield it in combat.....adresss this as it goes to the credibility of ppl forgetting
    lol stay here then, do what you what lol, ive actually stopped listening to u
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc2427 View Post
    Ok I just had a thought. I read all these threads since yesterday about the last chapter. Has it occurred to anyone that it wasn't obito who awakened the sharingan that maybe it was kakashi? In order to awaken the sharingan you must kill your best friend. True obito was there and saw, but kakashi is the one who just killed his best friend (rin)....So maybe it was actually him who activated MS, just a thought.
    they both awakened it at the same time
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by Namikaze Haru View Post
    lol stay here then, do what you what lol, ive actually stopped listening to u
    ya but yet you stil reply and you cant answer the question which shows all the lovely veiwers that you cant

    you open a thread and expected to get praise and rep and now that you can't answer the hard questions you just run away from them

    good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Namikaze Haru View Post
    they both awakened it at the same time
    also i luv who i explain entirely how the ms awakening works and you just say they did it at the same time.....great answer
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Same reason why Sasuke didnt use his sharingan until the Haku fight. He forgot he unlocked it. Sasuke first unlocked his sharingan at the uchiha massacre. He forgot because itachi put him into a genjutsu and he suppressed thsoe memories. Kakashi prolly tried to forget the memories of killing Rin too but im not sure. We need another chapter.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by Encon Uchiha View Post
    Same reason why Sasuke didnt use his sharingan until the Haku fight. He forgot he unlocked it. Sasuke first unlocked his sharingan at the uchiha massacre. He forgot because itachi put him into a genjutsu and he suppressed thsoe memories. Kakashi prolly tried to forget the memories of killing Rin too but im not sure. We need another chapter.
    now if only the op had brain enough to see the facts and not cry and complain and throw out petty insults

    +rep
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    OP, I don't really know how your post proves that Kakashi knew he had MS.

    The first scan just shows that Kakashi activated MS for the first time, but we don't know whether he knew or not because he then fainted right afterwards.

    Then you just showed some scans with Kakashi vs Itachi, and then you showed some scans about Sasuke which has nothing to do with Kakashi. How that has anything to do with Kakashi knowing he had MS is beyond me.

    Now I'm not saying that you're wrong - you could be right - but your post isn't evidence to show that Kakashi knew.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mischeif Maker View Post
    now if only the op had brain enough to see the facts and not cry and complain and throw out petty insults

    +rep
    thanx bro.

    and OP, even if Kakashi knew he had it,its obvious He rarely ever used it! why? its obvious. Kakashi has had his sharingan for 16 years! if he trained with it,even a little bit then he would be blind by the time the series started. MS erodes your eyesight the more you use it. Sasuke who was forced to spam his against Killer Bee, Raikage,Mizukage,Tsuchikage, Gaara,Danzo and Kakashi went legally blind in under a month! Itachi who rarely used it went blind in 5 years. How would Kakashi be able to train it without ever going blind in 16 years?? Its obvious he's never used it before and prolly only used once or twice before Deidara fight.

    Why doesnt Obito go blind after using his for 16 years? Senju DNA.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mischeif Maker View Post
    but its cool bro i get it your right anf kishi is a fool who doesnt know his shit...next time i have a question i wont consult the manga and data books that kishi wrote ill ask you
    Think about if you were a writer. You can't say something's old if no one reading HAS EVER SEEN THE TECHNIQUE BEFORE. Then everyone would be asking "where did that move come from? - I've never seen it!" when that information hasn't been released at the time. So either kishi hadn't thought that far ahead (to where Kakashi actually gained the MS in the past), or he did the right thing and called it NEW because it WAS new to the readers.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by frameses View Post
    Think about if you were a writer. You can't say something's old if no one reading HAS EVER SEEN THE TECHNIQUE BEFORE. Then everyone would be asking "where did that move come from? - I've never seen it!" when that information hasn't been released at the time. So either kishi hadn't thought that far ahead (to where Kakashi actually gained the MS in the past), or he did the right thing and called it NEW because it WAS new to the readers.
    no he thought of it but this is what happened


    kakashi got hit with the ms and b4 he could even know what happened after his long fight with the mist anbu he passed out and with no one around he didnt know what was up he just past out

    when he woke up he had the same sharingan he had since obito gave it to him and would have simply thought....arhgghg what happened ( ive been knocked out b4 in my life i know what its like)

    so he wouldnt have known what happened and then years later we dont know what happened so i wont claim to know like some ppl but years later he had it re activate over something and when he felt the strain he would have been like whats up and figured it out

    remember kakashi is a genius

    if kakashi knew he had the ms and he knew he didnt have the stamina for it as a genius he would have done what he did later one and that is train his body to handle it and we know a genius like kakashi wouldnt need 16 years to figure out whats up if he knew
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi DID know he had MS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mischeif Maker View Post
    ya but yet you stil reply and you cant answer the question which shows all the lovely veiwers that you cant

    you open a thread and expected to get praise and rep and now that you can't answer the hard questions you just run away from them


    good enough



    also i luv who i explain entirely how the ms awakening works and you just say they did it at the same time.....great answer
    come on please stop humiliating the guy
    you beat him with logic and he lost game set and match
    i wish i could give you another +rep >.<
     
         

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