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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Yes, I personally do. I was brought up as a Catholic, but by having MANY experiences throughout my life thus far, it has dawned on me that there is a "Higher Power" and I know this power as God. I also believe in Jesus. Again, lots of personal experiences that I had. I have my reasons as well as others do to. Personally, why not believe? Afterall, it is nothing but good, and something positive for the mind. I need more positive in my life and even if no one is listening, praying (even thoughts are prayers) help ease whatever problems I have and just asking for help gives me a better strength. I believe there are many reasons people are put here, ESPECIALLY during this time. It is fine if you don't believe, as that is all your choice, but never be afraid to ask for guidance every now and then :3 Someone is listening. Speak it loud enough through your thoughts or prayers and they will show you answers, one way or another. It may not be through words, but by actions of someone, TV, anything. I have had things happen to my father, they are called "God Winks" Whenever something happens to him, he tells me this one song on the radio ALWAYS comes up with the lyrics "Everything is going to be fine" He says if that isn't an answer in your face what is? Yes, you can take it as a "coincidence" but this happened 4 times already. So imo, it all comes down to believing. They say seeing is believing but I say believing is seeing. Like I said I rather have ANYTHING positive in my life, then negative so yeah :3

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by hokutoshinken View Post
    According to pope Darwin himself, if anything could be demonstrated to NOT have come about by numerous tiny modifications over time, it would prove his theory false. Well, Michael Behe is just one of many modern scientists who have demonstrated that biological processes like the coagulation cascade of blood could not have come about by numerous tiny modifications. Any living thing “evolving” blood coagulation would be dead. And dead things don’t evolve.
    Wait what? Do you know why blood coagulation is a good thing, it's so we don't continue bleeding out when we get injured. Have you ever gotten a cut and it stopped bleeding, that's because of coagulation. Ever heard of Hemophilliacs, they don't coagulate blood and that's why when they get injured it's dangerous for them. So your assertion is just plain wrong.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    "In order to survive, we cling to all we know and understand. And we label it reality. But people are ambiguous, that reality could be a lie. People believe what they want to believe is an easier way of saying it". I heard this somewhere, thought it kinda fit lol

    And for those not following scientific discoveries, they have discovered the outside edge of the universe and know the rate at which it's expanding http://www.primaxstudio.com/stuff/sc...niverse-v1.swf Check that out, that's pretty cool
     
         
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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    I do believe in God. Those that read the Bible like the churches do - literally, can not understand.
    My belief is that God is a piece of all of us. It is our natural instinct, the sixth sense, or whatever. It is us who have the power of reasoning who are capable to notice it.
    I understand why atheists believe there is no God. That is because they don't believe in the church's God.

    I will give a simple example of what I believe: If an animal is cold, it will find a warm place. If a man is cold, he will make a warm piece of clothes, find a warm place etc. Our senses drive us to do things which we feel we should do. It is an invisible force that drives us all to do what we do. It makes the Earth go round, and it pulls it to go around the Sun. It makes the universe what it is.
    Now, a man can also take off his clothes and decide he does not want to warm up. He can fight the forces that shape the universe by warming up the room. He can also change climate, and utilize some forces for his own well-being.

    Men are, so far, the only beings that are aware of this force. My understanding of the Bible is that it is "the original sin" - the one you're born with. Awareness of this God is what makes us capable of fighting his/her/its will. The Bible is a handbook on "How not to become arrogant and go too far with your defiance?". Be nice to your own kind, love others, respect your elders, be a nice person etc.

    People have become atheists because they don't know how the modern religion affects them. This concept (religion) requires a life philosophy. This philosophy is what makes you aware of God, or any other way you call it.

    There is a lot of data on the greatest scientists, and many of them were believers in God. Perhaps not one that your church will tell you about, but they did believe there is something greater than us. They were aware of it. If you ask me, it does not take a mind of a genius to know this. It just takes a moment to stop and ask yourself - what is it that makes this all work the way it does?

    This is, I repeat, just my belief. I do not care what you do/don't believe in. And I mean no disrespect.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Atheist.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    I think people should clarify which God they believe in just so I can understand where this is going. You guys are talking about YWH/Yahwe right?
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Yes, it is the label of us Christians for a God.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Let me go at this a different way. So "Insert Diety/s" is unknowable and beyond our limitted understanding correct, but this guy comes along and says it's no mystery to me, see I wrote it all down. Now if you find something in this book that doesn't make sense, remember that it is beyond understanding so don't question it. Nevermind that I said I know all about it and would explain it. Also, I'm the leader now.

    If you truly believe in a divine creator, how could you possibly believe that anyone is capable of knowing the unknowable? And, if you answer you don't believe anyone could know the unknowable mystery of "Insert Diety/s" then why would you affiliate yourself with an organization that purports to do that?

    Uh oh, I can hear someone's OCD kicking in.
     
         
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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by miino View Post
    so u dont believe in heaven or hell right?!
    a logical proof ha! so who created the earth and the sky and the moon and the other planets ? and how was the first man ever created??
    bro we need to talk
    1. big bang theory/other explosions in galaxy's
    2. EVOLUTION
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamx1337 View Post
    1. big bang theory/other explosions in galaxy's
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    The Big Bang's impossible.

    It's a hypocritical idea created by scientists. They say energy can neither be created nor destroyed (Law of Energy), yet they say a giant explosion created all matter.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Yah I believe in only one God, he is the supreme controller of everything; his creation which is everything ranging from people, earth, trees/plants, the sea to planets, the sun, the moon and the universe as well as heaven and hell etc. I have faith in him and praise him, in turn he helps me alot. He helps everyone alot even though they may not realize it and there are some who are ungrateful but he's still omnipotent and merciful.

    I understand if someone doesn't believe in God because there are alot of different opinons and confusion but he guides whomever he wills, that's the way I see it. A fact is backed up by evidence. Evidence can appear in the form of signs also. There is evidence that God exists and that's through signs. You might wonna look around and analyze the things around you. Look deep and see who causes things to happen. Who has created winning and losing? who has created intelligence and stupidity? who has created wealthiness and poverty? Who has created life and death?
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    I don't.
    Honestly, I only think people use God as an excuse for getting money ( Church...) + there's no evidence that he exists.
    God is just an imaginary "object" that people use for seeking comfort. But hey,thats just me,no hard feelings :D !
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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Why do people keep creating this Thread ?..If you wanna know about other people's opinions regarding religion, go back a few pages.You'll find many of such threads.They all end up in flame wars and no one gains anything.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    I personally don't believe in God and there are many reasons for this to be.

    1. Science holds logical fact for me than sheer blind faith. Everything that is in existence came from elements. And elements are made from stars when they die. So basically the Egyptians were right kind of.
    2. The Christian religion has been proven that they stole stories and tales from preexisting religions and cultures to suit their own needs. Jesus Christ didnt exist. His origin and existence story was stolen from the god Osiris. Don't believe me? The whole story is carved on walls in Egypt that predates Christianity by thousands of years.
    3. I don't like the fact that religions, specifically Christianity, wanted to convert others by any means necessary. ex. Forcing some native american tribes to convert and stop using their original language. I know this doesnt factor in the actual existence of God but it kind of matters to me. And they killed others for no reason besides believeing in a religon older than their own (Paganism)
    4. The origin of God(s) came from our own assumptions that when the world acted violently (ex. lightning storms, volcano eruptions) the only explanation for it was that the God(s) were angry at them so they decided to sacrifice children to appease them. This ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
    5. Evolution has guided every species to what it is today.
    6. I can't really believe that something created LIGHT and the earth from nothing in six days. Unless the God in question was an intelligent being capable of creating universes. That one might be the case. God just may be some kind of spectral scientist that can create universes using technology. He supposedly created us in his own image right? Then that means for God to know what the human body is made of and how it must function he must be human as well. That raises a bunch of questions right there.

    I've listed my reasons and hope this contributes positively to this thread
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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

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    The Big Bang's impossible.

    It's a hypocritical idea created by scientists. They say energy can neither be created nor destroyed (Law of Energy), yet they say a giant explosion created all matter.
    Actually the big bang is the theory that ALL energy in existence once was a singularity that possessed infinite heat and infinite density. It rapidly expanded and cooled sufficiently enough that subatomic particles were created. and thus matter was formed.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by dasboot666 View Post
    Actually the big bang is the theory that ALL energy in existence once was a singularity that possessed infinite heat and infinite density. It rapidly expanded and cooled sufficiently enough that subatomic particles were created. and thus matter was formed.
    That singularity was still energy. It doesn't matter what form it took.

    Energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

    The theory is wrong.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ The bible, and on the side, why it is wrong.

    In Genesis 1:1, the earth and "heaven" are created together "in the beginning," whereas according to current estimates, the earth and universe are about 4.6 and 13.7 billion years old, respectively.

    In Genesis, the earth is created (1:1) before light (1:3), sun and stars (1:16); birds and whales (1:21) before reptiles and insects (1:24); and flowering plants (1:11) before any animals (1:20). The order of events known from science is in each case just the opposite.

    (1:3-5, 14-19) "Let there be light"
    God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?

    (1:6-8) The Firmament (Heaven)
    God spends one-sixth of his entire creative effort (the second day) working on a solid firmament. This strange structure, which God calls heaven, is intended to separate the higher waters from the lower waters.

    (1:11-13) "Let the earth bring forth grass"
    Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes (1:14-19). Notice, though, that God lets "the earth bring forth" the plants, rather than creating them directly. Maybe Genesis is not so anti-evolution after all.
    Were plants created before or after humans?
    Does the Bible teach evolution?

    (1:14) "Let them be for signs"
    God placed the sun, moon, and stars in the firmament so that they can be used "for signs". This, of course, is exactly what astrologers do: read "the signs" in the Zodiac to predict what will happen on Earth.
    Does the bible condemn astrology?
    What the Bible says about astrology

    (1:16a) "God made the two great lights."
    "The greater light [the sun] to rule the day, and the lesser light [the moon] to rule the night." But the moon is not a light; it only reflects light from the sun. And why, if God made the moon to "rule the night", does it spend half of its time moving through the daytime sky?

    (1:16b) "He made the stars also."
    God spends a day making light (before making the sun and stars) and separating light from darkness; then, at the end of a hard day's work, and almost as an afterthought, he makes 300 sextillion stars.
    When were the stars made?

    (1:17) "God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth."
    Then why is only a tiny fraction of stars visible from earth? Under the best conditions, no more than a few thousand stars are visible with the unaided eye, yet there are hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy and a hundred billion or so galaxies. Were they all created "to give light upon the earth"?

    (1:20) "Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl."
    From what were the animals created?
    From what were the fowls created?

    (1:24) "Let the earth bring forth the living creature."
    Does the Bible teach evolution?

    (1:25) "God made the beast of the earth."
    Were humans created before the other animals?
    "The beast of the earth"

    (1:26a) "Let us make man in our image."
    How many gods are there?

    (1:26b) "Let them have dominion ... over all the earth."
    God gave humans dominion over every other living thing on earth. This couldn't be true, of course, since millions of other species existed for millions of years before humans existed. But this verse is used by fundamentalist Christians to justify their mistreatment of other species and disregard for the environment. After all, they believe that God created the other species just for them, so they can do whatever they please with them.


    That's just 1 page of the bible, talk about plot holes lol

    My point is that a man wrote the bible, and god did not script it. Yopu wanna know why there's no mention of dinosaurs in the story of Noah? Cause their were no paleontologist's back then and fossils had yet to be discovered BY MAN
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyakusetsu View Post
    Let me go at this a different way. So "Insert Diety/s" is unknowable and beyond our limitted understanding correct, but this guy comes along and says it's no mystery to me, see I wrote it all down. Now if you find something in this book that doesn't make sense, remember that it is beyond understanding so don't question it. Nevermind that I said I know all about it and would explain it. Also, I'm the leader now.

    If you truly believe in a divine creator, how could you possibly believe that anyone is capable of knowing the unknowable? And, if you answer you don't believe anyone could know the unknowable mystery of "Insert Diety/s" then why would you affiliate yourself with an organization that purports to do that?

    Uh oh, I can hear someone's OCD kicking in.
    Furthermore, if you do believe that your particular deity has created the universe and everything in it, I ask you to consider the following:
    A being that has never been in a state of non-existence has, per definition, always existed. If a deity is able to do everything and be everything, it should be able to not exist while existing, which is a logical paradox. Considering that your being should be able to transcend all logic and all boundaries, it should, theoretically, exist while not existing.
    If your deity is omnipotent and everlasting, it should be without a body. 'Matter' has limits, same with energy, but your deity is limitless. In that regard, your deity would have to consists of nothing, yet still be able to think and store information.
    With the ability to be anywhere and everywhere at the same time, your deity would also have to be larger than the universe (size infinity, since dark space is included), or able to travel many trillion times faster than light, while being able to 'split' itself an infinite amount of times to cover all possible angles and positions.
    The 'standard' personal deity is able to do everything and knows everything. So, I ask you, if your deity knows what will happen in the future, but is able to change everything, would he be able to change what's going to happen tomorrow? (http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.p...cience_paradox)
    Why do you believe that your deity is 'good' or 'fair' or 'just'? Being everlasting and all-knowing, your deity's perception of time is completely different from yours, and his deifnition of 'good' all but opposite. Why do you deserve an infinite life in your deity's pocket dimension? The notion is illogical, as you serve no purpose outside of life.
    ****, my OCD!
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    ....I rest my case, and if you all start researching and find out that the story of Jesus has been repeated all the way back to the ancient Egyptians yall are really gonna flip. The story started with the 'Sun' 'dying' and resurrecting 3 days later. The death of the sun was during the shortest 3 days of the year around Dec. 21, and on the 3rd day the sun start to move farthetr along the horizon as the days begin to get longer. Use your resources people, and don't take everything you read at face value. If you lived on an island your whole life with only 1 person and that person told you everyone else in the world was purple, your gonna believe them without question. It's hard for most to overwrite their programming even when actual proof is presented right to them
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Kelvin View Post
    Furthermore, if you do believe that your particular deity has created the universe and everything in it, I ask you to consider the following:
    A being that has never been in a state of non-existence has, per definition, always existed. If a deity is able to do everything and be everything, it should be able to not exist while existing, which is a logical paradox. Considering that your being should be able to transcend all logic and all boundaries, it should, theoretically, exist while not existing.
    If your deity is omnipotent and everlasting, it should be without a body. 'Matter' has limits, same with energy, but your deity is limitless. In that regard, your deity would have to consists of nothing, yet still be able to think and store information.
    With the ability to be anywhere and everywhere at the same time, your deity would also have to be larger than the universe (size infinity, since dark space is included), or able to travel many trillion times faster than light, while being able to 'split' itself an infinite amount of times to cover all possible angles and positions.
    The 'standard' personal deity is able to do everything and knows everything. So, I ask you, if your deity knows what will happen in the future, but is able to change everything, would he be able to change what's going to happen tomorrow? (http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.p...cience_paradox)
    Why do you believe that your deity is 'good' or 'fair' or 'just'? Being everlasting and all-knowing, your deity's perception of time is completely different from yours, and his deifnition of 'good' all but opposite. Why do you deserve an infinite life in your deity's pocket dimension? The notion is illogical, as you serve no purpose outside of life.
    ****, my OCD!
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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    No. Never was taught to, never needed to.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranificent View Post
    Finally a logical mind...+ rep
    to both of you i like what zero kelvin said you said our god would have to exist everywhere well he does he is in every believers heart and soul he is waiting to be in every non believers heart and soul and if he wanted he could force it but what being wants to have to force love into someone? on another note the universe being created by an explosion is possible yes but very unlikely......also according to science if all the pieces are in one place then over time they will all come together so how about trying to take apart your house and just wait and over time it will be built back together without anyone's help of course
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by imsuppish View Post
    to both of you i like what zero kelvin said you said our god would have to exist everywhere well he does he is in every believers heart and soul he is waiting to be in every non believers heart and soul and if he wanted he could force it but what being wants to have to force love into someone? on another note the universe being created by an explosion is possible yes but very unlikely......also according to science if all the pieces are in one place then over time they will all come together so how about trying to take apart your house and just wait and over time it will be built back together without anyone's help of course
    No, you don't know what your Diety wants, you only know what someone told you they want.
     
         

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    Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

    Evolutionists have no proof that an afterlife doesn't exist. Given that someone did return from the dead (which I assume they would not wish to believe despite plenty of eyewitness testimony), that's enough proof for me.

    However, let's talk about proof for a minute.

    Evolutionists have no proof that there is extraterrestrial life, but I'll bet a million scientists believe there is.

    Evolutionists have no proof that evolution actually happened the way they say it did, but I'll bet they believe it.

    Evolutionists have no proof that intelligence can evolve from inert matter, but I'll bet they believe it did.

    Evolutionists have no proof that there are other universes, or that the Egyptians actually built the pyramids, but they choose to believe it (someone once proposed to me in all seriousness that apes actually built them - can you PROVE they did not??).

    There are lots of things for which there is little or no proof (evolution being one), but people still believe in them. UFOs is another. People believe what they want to believe, and don't bore them with the facts.

    Why did the universe have to have a start? That's an easy one to answer. First, you would have to have GREAT faith to believe it did not. Secondly, the SCIENTIFIC evidence indicates that the universe had a beginning. If it did not, there would not be two laws of thermodynamics which state that the total energy in the universe is a constant, but the energy available to perform work is running out (entropy). Therefore the universe had a beginning and that can be demonstrated scientifically. We don't need to believe it by faith. What we need to believe by faith is HOW that beginning came about. And it is not logical, given the scientific evidence, to believe that the complexity and structure in the universe, be it galaxies or atoms, came about by random chance processes. There is clear and obvious design present in all things from the largest to the smallest. Scientists recognize that, or there would not be scientific laws. Some of them just don't want to acknowledge that it could not have come about from nothing with no intelligent input. Which is a demonstration of their own lack of intelligent discernment of the facts.
     
         

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