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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    susano is nothing compared to obito's both eyes. As of now, obito can only teleport things through contact and it's dangerous enough with that "One jutsu" as stated by kakashi. If obito had kakashi's ms, obito would not need to be in contact and use "two" or even awaken another more powerful jutsu. He also has first hokage cell infused with him
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    then again, obito is not power hungry like madara, orochimaru, kabuto etc etc. If obito had been power hungry he would have stolen kakashi's ms long time ago.

    Obito just wants a meaningless world. Just like his life is meaningless without rin. People who can't think, cry, feel anger, love etc. Emotionless
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Thewilloffire your a idiot, it never stated in the manga that amaterasu can only be used for good intentions or any of that other crap u said u noob
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    his space time jutsu works just as well as susanoo would....for defence and then offence as we have already seen countless times....
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Sigh, the only way Obito can unlock Susanoo is if he steals his MS back from kakashi, and I doubt that will happen. And to all the people who can't comprehend simple manga, you do not need Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu to unlock Susanoo, Itachi was only referring to himself when he stated following those two abilities, a third power came (Susanoo). You do need two powers, a power in each eye to awaken Susanoo, but not Ama and Tsuki.

    No one but Sasuke has been shown using Amaterasu, and he sure as hell doesn't have Tsukiyomi. Do you know what Tsukiyomi is as a technique? In order for it to be Tsukiyomi, the user has to be able to control time and space while in the genjutsu, Sasuke has never done that, so he doesn't have Tsukiyomi, and no, it's not a weaker version because the fact still remains that he can't control time and space. Sasuke's techniques are Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi.
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    no need for amaterasu and tsukuyumi to use susano..u just need 2 MS eyes to use the ability.:D
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    tsukiyomi and amaterasu are not prerequisites for susanoo. those two were itachi's special abilities; like obito with kamui, and shiswi (however you spell it) with kotowhatever. The reason we see Sasuke with amaterasu is because itachi gave it to him just before death, this is lightly explained when amaterasu is activated on tobi/obito.

    im not saying that madara doesnt have amaterasu, but it is not required for susasnoo, and he hasnt been shown to have it or tsukiyomi.
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    You need 2 Sharingans, Obito only has 1.
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Two MS in both eyes I mean. xD
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Ditto > Madara Uchiha
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    yes u guys are right you need two eyes with ms in them
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    It states you need tsukyomi and amaterasu activated to gain susanoo the greatest misinterpretation seems to be that tsukyomi has to be exactly the same as Itachis which is false itachi is the only uchiha shown to manipulate time in a genjutsu this does not necessarily mean tsukyomi has to have these same traits e.g.

    Itachi was shown using his genjutsu with a finger still able to manipulate time in a genjutsu this was called Ephemeral and was not on the same level as tsukyomi meaning tsukyomi simply is a more powerful form of a genjutsu the user already possesses

    So in addition as Sasuke was never this skilled with genjutsu his most powerful genjutsu is to instantly paralyze those who look into his eyes such is the same with madara this could also be classed as tsukyomi as its the users most powerful genjutsu

    Also it must be noted in narutoverse they change and have many variations on the name of techniques which is sometimes just made up by the user as with sasukes version of rock lees copied move which sasuke calls "lion combo" and the parent jutsu is "shadow of the dancing leaf" why do i bring this up you ask? This is because of the variation in name of shisuis technique which is also one of the highest forms of genjutsu peformed by the MS.

    Its also possible awakening the MS with only one eye present like obito may result in new powers being unlocked in the eye as with kakashis and obitos kamui

    So to summarize kishi could explain it like how i have done to fill in the gaps for those who think he may have lost his way and got muddled up, then again there havent been that many people with MS to show as proof of what itachi said is fact and it could be each uchiha has a distinct different ninjutsu and genjutsu with there MS and amaterasu and tsukyomi may merely be just a similar eye technique sasuke and itachi share because they are brothers and other uchihas who unlock the MS get different powers
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    If you need 2 MS-eyes, then please explain me, why can madara use PREFECT SUSANOO <<<<<< with only 1 MS?

    You wanna say Rinnengan = EMS/MS?
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by ardianiiH View Post
    If you need 2 MS-eyes, then please explain me, why can madara use PREFECT SUSANOO <<<<<< with only 1 MS?

    You wanna say Rinnengan = EMS/MS?
    What are you talking about; Madara has 2 MS.
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by Draxus View Post
    Oh... and who gave Sasano'O to Madara?

    Personally I think you need to awaken two different powers in each MS eye to unlock Susano'O, that's why it a rare power. Half the MS users we've seen have the same power in each eyes except Itachi and Sasuke.

    I think the fate Sasuke has yet to tsukiyomi and Madara hasn't show either amaterasu or tsukiyomi overrides what the databook says.
    Dude, Sasuke does have Tsukuyomi and used it against bee it was even stated that his was nowhere close to the level of Itachi's and his couldn't alter time. It is also implied that Madara can use it or else his Eye of the Moon plan would be useless.
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    What are you talking about; Madara has 2 MS.

    Edo Madara vs the Kages

    One eye (right eye) is EMS, and the left eye is Rinnengan.
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by ardianiiH View Post
    Edo Madara vs the Kages

    One eye (right eye) is EMS, and the left eye is Rinnengan.
    No its not, show me where.
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Are Sharingan powers even identical? Has Madara used Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi? Has Tobi? I know Madara and Itachi didn't have Kamui. And none of them had Shisui's crazy genjutsu. It seems like an Uchiha's MS could give them a variety of abilities; it isn't cut and dry like Byakugen. THEN AGAIN, maybe truely mastered eyes can use all of these abilities. What if Sasuke gets Kamui?
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Itachi used izanami and could still use susano so....
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Wait a minute. Didn't Obito have 2 sharingans before he got Nagato's rinnegan? Or does it have to be your original sharingan...
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    No its not, show me where.

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/594/17


    You see 1 rinnengan, so you can explain the rest yourself.
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    some of you guys need to chill out what about Koto shisuis technique none of u r kishi.... when itachi said these are the these three techniques of MS he was refering to himself notice how Saskue has blaze reales..does any other MS user have Blaze Relases .......Theire are now 5 Mangekyoku techniques are derived from shinoto Japanese mythology

    Obitio could simply just take his other eye from kakashi and most likely use sussano... it will be overpowered though if he could use that and Kamui at the same time but epic........Kishi sometimes changes his mind about these things its his baby.......rant over
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    Danzou had 11 eleven Sharingans, one Sharingan of which had the Mangekyou, AND was infected with Hashirama.

    *imagines what Danzou's Susanoo would look like*
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    nop...both eyes needed
     
         

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    Re: Obito's Susano'o

    He needs ms in both eyes
     
         

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