To end the feud of Kabuto and use Nagato as an example.

[SuperFlyzzED]

Kabuto dodged the arrow easily at close-mid range. Danzo was long range.
As for amaterasu, I do believe it was a genjutsu and Danzo and the "fake" Itachi was standing within 2 feet of each other.

What the hell are you going on about an illusion? Sasuke hit the real Danzo with Amaterasu. He used Izanagi to avoid death that's how he escaped alive.

[TheCloudsBlackLightning]

What the hell are you going on about an illusion? Sasuke hit the real Danzo with Amaterasu. He used Izanagi to avoid death that's how he escaped alive.

Chapter 478. I thought you was referring to that.
In chpt. 477, yes its exactly what you said.
But Danzo doesnt have the sensory perception of Kabuto nor the speed of A. Plus he was in the air.

Amaterasu is a projectile. If you dont have anything special to escape it your screwed.
Kabuto has something special: His sensory perception and skin shedding.

[Uchiha Mike]

Chapter 478. I thought you was referring to that.
In chpt. 477, yes its exactly what you said.
But Danzo doesnt have the sensory perception of Kabuto nor the speed of A. Plus he was in the air.

Amaterasu is a projectile. If you dont have anything special to escape it your screwed.
Kabuto has something special: His sensory perception and skin shedding.

I thought the skin shed idea was already countered? Amaterasu is instant, it has already been said. As long as the eye can focus on the target the Amaterasu spawn's where it has focused.

[Champ]

Kabuto dodged the arrow easily at close-mid range. Danzo was long range.
As for amaterasu, I do believe it was a genjutsu and Danzo and the "fake" Itachi was standing within 2 feet of each other.

Kabuto dodge one Arrow. Sasuke didn't even try to shoot two at a time like he did against Kakashi. Danzo wasn't long range not like it matter since neither could dodge Amaterasu. With Itachi that was a Genjutsu, Sasuke used on Danzo.

[TheCloudsBlackLightning]

I thought the skin shed idea was already countered? Amaterasu is instant, it has already been said. As long as the eye can focus on the target the Amaterasu spawn's where it has focused.

Yet A and Sasuke dodged it. How is that instant death?

[Uchiha Mike]

Yet A and Sasuke dodged it. How is that instant death?

Like I said nearly five times... Itachi did not aim Amaterasu at Sasuke at all he aimed it at the fireball technique Sasuke was USING. He then made it travel without the intent to kill. A dodged it because Sasuke's eyes could not focus correctly on A because A is faster then Sasuke's eyes can focus on, therefore missing. It is instant if focused on.

Amaterasu = Instant.

Susano'o arrow = Projectile.

Edit: Even if the eye can't focus on the target it is still deadly and can kill a target if used like Sasuke did vs Raikage. Also let me add Sasuke no longer has to open and close his eyes to use Amaterasu, he can do it without blinking now.

[Rike Senju]

Kabuto without edos >>> sasuke or itachi..so many people hate on kabuto shed skin >> amaterasu white rage >> susanno and he cannot be affected by normal genjutsu.

[TheCloudsBlackLightning]

Yet Sasuke looked straight at A and aimed it directly at A and he still dodged it.
Your just making excuses now.
Amaterasu continued its straight projectary like a PROJECTILE would and hit a samurai.
Amaterasu is a projectile and not instant.
Simple Logic proven by the manga and Kishimoto.

[TheCloudsBlackLightning]

Kabuto without edos >>> sasuke or itachi..so many people hate on kabuto shed skin >> amaterasu white rage >> susanno and he cannot be affected by normal genjutsu.

Exactly. They dont get it. They keep making excuses to make Sasuke look stronger than he is.

[★HiddenSound]

Okay, I'm back. Sorry for the wait, CloudsBlackLightning

That's because you can dish it, but not take it.

I guess you haven't been reading the thread, because I've been here for awhile. Saying your opinion is reality is ridiculpous.

Yea that's why Itachi owned him quick with Izanami and pity him so he could find his true self

Explain what that has to do with Kabuto brushing off Sasuke as nothing but a harmless guinea pig.

Oh wow! What will Kabuto do once he tries to open his mouth to let his next form come out and he is hit with Amaterasu? Exactly, no counter.

And Sasuke obviously has the absolute best, pinpoint accuracy to hit Kabuto's mouth, even though he aims for the torso every time!! And Amaterasu obviously just appears out of nowhere, spontaneous combustion!! That's how Sasuke can literally beat everyone! Even So6P!

Yet A and Sasuke dodged it. How is that instant death?

Thhhhiiiiisssss

Like I said nearly five times... Itachi did not aim Amaterasu at Sasuke at all he aimed it at the fireball technique Sasuke was USING. He then made it travel without the intent to kill. A dodged it because Sasuke's eyes could not focus correctly on A because A is faster then Sasuke's eyes can focus on, therefore missing. It is instant if focused on.

Amaterasu = Instant.

Susano'o arrow = Projectile.

Edit: Even if the eye can't focus on the target it is still deadly and can kill a target if used like Sasuke did vs Raikage. Also let me add Sasuke no longer has to open and close his eyes to use Amaterasu, he can do it without blinking now.

If it was instant, A would have been burned immediately because he was standing still -__-

Jesus, the fanboys...

[Uchiha Mike]

I won't continue in this debate because it seems like no one from the other side of the debate gets it. Time to watch some tv

[★HiddenSound]

I won't continue in this debate because it seems like no one from the other side of the debate gets it. Time to watch some tv

That's what I'm thinking too. What are you watching? I'm watching 20/20

[TheCloudsBlackLightning]

Guess we won HiddenSound.

[★HiddenSound]

Guess we won HiddenSound.

All hail the conquering heroes!!

[Champ]

Explain what that has to do with Kabuto brushing off Sasuke as nothing but a harmless guinea pig.

Explain why Itachi owned him so quick

[ntel]

Technically Kabuto is no stronger then part 1 Kakashi as he has gotten his power taken away.

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[★HiddenSound]

Explain why Itachi owned him so quick

Because he was an Edo and had Sasuke to get him out of Chains of Fantasia. If Sasuke weren't there Itachi would've gotten a new tag in his head

[Deadai]

*cracks knuckles*
The debate of weather Sasuke can defeat Kabuto or not ends here

first off lets look at taijutsu shall we? whalst Kabuto is in DSM he has enhanced strength and sensory not to mention his surgical precision with chakra scalpel. Which even Tsunade noted as being highly impressive in her battle with Kabuto, then there is the fact that Kabuto has the healing capability's of Both Karin and Orochimaru leaving all physical attacks useless.

Then there is genjutsu because of Kabuto being able to fight blinded all genjutsu is rendered useless.

I am also seeing allot of of arguments weather Amaterasu could hit Kabuto or not I say it is possible but unlikely seeing as how easily Kabuto was able to avoid Sasuke's Susanoo arrow arguably his quickest attack.

Sasuke's fire based jutsu can be counter'd with Kabuto's water based jutsu, here you could count that as a draw. allthough Sasuke does have lightning based jutsu which can counter Kabuto's earth release which is a point to Sasuke.

as for the Susanoo there are 3 jutsu we know of in Kabuto's arsenal that could take care of it 1,white rage 2,organic manipulation(spikes could attack from underneath Susanoo to pearce Sasuke) and 3, Tayuya's genjutsu. All of these attacks leaving Sasuke wide open for a finishing blow.


I could add more to how/why Kabuto would defeat Sasuke without much difficulty but this should be more then enough proof.

[Champ]

Because he was an Edo and had Sasuke to get him out of Chains of Fantasia. If Sasuke weren't there Itachi would've gotten a new tag in his head

I thought it was because Itachi felt bad for him and didn't want to kill him so he put him in Izanami, instead of just lighting him up with Amaterasu and sealing him.

[★HiddenSound]

I thought it was because Itachi felt bad for him and didn't want to kill him so he put him in Izanami, instead of just lighting him up with Amaterasu and sealing him.

Are you trying to defend Sasuke or Itachi here? Or could it be that you've realized only Edo Itachi has a chance against Kabuto due to Izanami? I think you finally understand that Kabuto beats Sasuke, so you go to Itachi instead. I have you figured out, my old friend

[Champ]

Are you trying to defend Sasuke or Itachi here? Or could it be that you've realized only Edo Itachi has a chance against Kabuto due to Izanami? I think you finally understand that Kabuto beats Sasuke, so you go to Itachi instead. I have you figured out, my old friend

I'll defend both. Either brother would win. Itachi already ended Kabuto so there's no argument there.

[oooog]

Kabuto wins. What do you know the title was right. the Feud is over.

[★HiddenSound]

I'll defend both. Either brother would win. Itachi already ended Kabuto so there's no argument there.

Whatever you say, champ. There's no point "debating" with you, anyway. It's been long-since proven that Kabuto wins more times than not. See the post where we declare our victory. So I'll leave the thread with this last post. But I'll come back if something interesting happens. Probably not, though.

[End of Days]

I agree half the shit kabuto pulled off isn't gonna work properly at any other location

[Deadai]

I agree half the shit kabuto pulled off isn't gonna work properly at any other location

If you are referring to Tayuya's genjutsu not being able to work well out doors then you are mistaken, as It worked fine on Shikamaru and there was some distance beween them OUTDOORS.