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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    Hinata is the weakest of hyuga i feel, and her ninja skills are subpar, shed do better as housewife. If Neji were there he'd probably pick up on the sharigan. What I don't really get about tobi's abilities, is he ability to travel long distances. If he just sends his body to other dimensions, then to travel faster than zetzu. The dimension would have to exist with a different time frame, which would be a pretty insane ability you thought we would have heard of.
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    I see what you're saying.

    I'm also looking at it from Obito's side.

    With Obito's training and enhancements through Madara, I'm sure Obito would know how to trick Hinata/byakugan.

    Also the speed in which Obito gets attacked is quite fast. Could be one reason, dunno.

    There is mention from Yamato and others that Obito might have been an astral projection. Perhaps he combines some sort of projection with his phasing to help keep his ability harder to analyze.

    When Hinata was looking at Tobi, she was told to keep an eye on his chakra as a whole - she was probly not "zooming" in for specific details - not sure, just another possibility.

    I do see what you're saying though! Just throwing out some random thoughts off the top of my head
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    -Hinata may not be the most skilled hyuga but I think that it's absurd to think that she missed whole parts of tobi's chakra system going missing... It's not phasing, there is no shadow or after-image, he just moves the affected parts away. That's kind of hard to miss.
    - How did Tobi fool the byakugan ? He just stood there gazing at them the whole time, hinata should have easily spotted the sharingan. I tell you, it's an error made by Kishi. There is no other explanation
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by raziel777 View Post
    -Hinata may not be the most skilled hyuga but I think that it's absurd to think that she missed whole parts of tobi's chakra system going missing... It's not phasing, there is no shadow or after-image, he just moves the affected parts away. That's kind of hard to miss.
    - How did Tobi fool the byakugan ? He just stood there gazing at them the whole time, hinata should have easily spotted the sharingan. I tell you, it's an error made by Kishi. There is no other explanation
    Maybe he put some sort barrier space around himself...

    In Obito's usage, by creating a swirling, spatial distortion centered upon his right eye, he is able to enter a dimensional void and teleport himself to another location instantaneously, exiting this void in a similar manner to how he entered. During this process, Obito's chakra becomes untraceable until the teleportation is completed.


    The byakugan as excellent insight and surpasses the sharingan from what kakashi said but maybe Hinata's byakugan isn't that far developed.

    "As the transported portions of his body are always obscured by the other objects, Obito appears completely whole to those observing him. By overlapping his entire body with a sufficiently large object, such as the ground, he can not only conceal himself from view, but also erase all traces of his chakra."
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    -I get what you are saying but it doesn't work like that with the byakugan. You can't conceal yourself by overlaping your body with other objects because the byakugan can see through them. --I agree that Hinata can't trace Obito when he's teleporting himself but what about when he only teleports parts of himself ? She should see those parts going missing even for a moment. For example, obito coming from the ground, hinata should notice that his lower half is not in the ground. You see my point ?
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by raziel777 View Post
    -I get what you are saying but it doesn't work like that with the byakugan. You can't conceal yourself by overlaping your body with other objects because the byakugan can see through them. --I agree that Hinata can't trace Obito when he's teleporting himself but what about when he only teleports parts of himself ? She should see those parts going missing even for a moment. For example, obito coming from the ground, hinata should notice that his lower half is not in the ground. You see my point ?
    Well u said this alerady tht ... all those info is concluded by Kakashi ryt ?? But there is more . Sharingan also see the Chakra network acc to Itachi, correct me if iam wrong. So while recent fyt kakashi, naruto gai vs Tobi... if kakashi fails to notice tobi's missing chakra part then how can Hinata can see tht ?
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiten Uchiha View Post
    all those info is concluded byif kakashi fails to notice
    how can Hinata can see tht ?
    Sorry if i keep repeating myself. The sharingan can chakra not the chalra network. The reason kakashi fails to notice is because gai or naruto's attack usually hide the missing parts. The byakugan would notice because unlike the sharingan, it has xray. If keeping an eye on tobi, she would see parts of his chakra network dissapearin because she can see through naruto
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    well for one, poor Hinata, but Hinabi is the head of house or clan or whatever for a reason. I dont think her byakugan is developed enough and it would be interesting to see if Neji would have had more luck if he wouldve been around.

    However, from what we understand, Obito does literally take his body out into a different dimension or reality of sorts. Would the byakugan really be able to see this? i mean its not like hes becoming invisible, hes literally traveling through dimensions at the same speeds as A and Minato.

    It is also very possible that Madara knew all about the byakugan too and taught him how to counter that along with every OP power out there. With Madara as his teacher, its not to far off to say that if Obito really had a special sharingan or reason why Madara wanted him, then hes probably a pretty powerful dude and just didnt know it. Anyways a little off topic. Excellent question...this has got me thinking...
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by raziel777 View Post
    -I get what you are saying but it doesn't work like that with the byakugan. You can't conceal yourself by overlaping your body with other objects because the byakugan can see through them. --I agree that Hinata can't trace Obito when he's teleporting himself but what about when he only teleports parts of himself ? She should see those parts going missing even for a moment. For example, obito coming from the ground, hinata should notice that his lower half is not in the ground. You see my point ?
    Whatever he does to keep, say his leg, visible to the human eye when attacked but also have it in that other dimension sure is mind bloggling
     
         

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    Re: Hinata and Tobi, puzzling thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by teeol View Post
    Whatever he does to keep, say his leg, visible to the human eye when attacked but also have it in that other dimension sure is mind bloggling
    actually it's more like a trick. He fooled everyone into thinking that he was intangible when what he did was simply send his parts somewhere else. Since you can't see that the parts are missing because your attacks supposedly '' overlaped '' with them, it was easy. But the byakugan should caught on the trick
     
         

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